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Old 03-28-2008, 07:25 AM   #4
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Re: New HID LED, 50% more efficient than your HID lamp

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Originally Posted by Boss View Post
He said in the video that the spectrum was similar to the sun, because the bulb gets 6000 degrees inside, the temperature of the surface of the sun :-) These are amazing bulbs.
The 6000K temperature mentioned was NOT degrees as in farenheit or celsius, it is 6000K (K= Kelvin) which is a color spectrum only. 6000K (blue spectrum) represents daylight color meaning that these bulbs should ONLY be used for vegging, the 'red' spectrum is (appx. 2200K-3000K) for flowering.

If you examine even a simple package of CFL bulbs they will be in either the 6000K range or the 2700-3000K range, CFLs are not produced as low as the 2200K range like HPS bulbs are. CFL bulbs that are in the 6000K range are "Daylight" or "Bright White", CFL bulbs in the 2700-3000K range are marked "Soft White" or "Cool White". Now I only mention CFL to you all because we can walk into ANY store and pick up a package and have a look at them. ALL of your HID bulbs are marked/sold in a similar fashion, just read all the specifications very carefully on any website you visit dealing with bulbs.

Listen again to the video where he says "the inside of the bulb will be 6000 Kelvin in temperature" 6000K is a color spectrum measurement and NOT an actual temp even though he does compare it to the surface of the sun.

Also, he states that the new Luxim bulb puts out 140 lumens per watt, so does my 400watt HPS! My 400watt HPS Hortilux is rated @ 55,000 lumens or appx 137.5 lumens per watt. So what's all the fuss about now?

BTW, the 400 watt HID unit in the demo had not warmed up yet, I think we can all agree that when street lights turn on they take a minute or so to warm up. ahhhhhhh the magic of the camera and not being there made that a real dog and pony show for anyone wanting to be taken in by new ideas in lighting.

Specs for a 400 watt MH bulb:
*Operates on a M59 400 watt ballast
*T15 clear bulb with E39 nickel plated base and ceramic insulator
*High color temperature 6500° Kelvin <-------your 6500K color range
and very high color rendering 90 CRI
*Produces light similar to sunlight
*For commercial applications where natural light is critical
*Base Up or Base Down ±15° Operating position
*32,000 initial and 24,000 mean lumens
*12,000 hour rated average life
*1-year lamp warranty


Here's the specs for a 400watt HPS bulb:
*Manufacturer Item # LU400S/HTL/EN
*Bulb Size/Shape ET18
*Watts 400
*Life Hours 24,000
*Base Mogul E39
*Initial Lumens 55,000 <--------137.5 lumens per watt
*Color Temp. (CCT or K) 2,100 <-------Kelvin is color
*Ansi Spec S51
*CRI 23


I hope this $ave$ you all thousand$ of dollar$ by $ticking with standard HID bulbs, I know I won't be buying some CEO's bag of trick$.

papa told me "son, believe none of what you hear & only half of what you see."
I didn't see shit in that demo of theirs that'd prove anything.
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