thanks mcbudz but its still flush - and the exact same color- with the dirt. The camera has all the functions plus some new ones to me like splashing water! however the thing just snaps shots of perilite currently, but the first one has shed its shell, is green up the stem, grown a mm, and is opening up very quickly at right around 30 hours since surfacing.. VERY good seeds. I hope they all have spots, cause 1 boob is good but 2 much better. I can't wait to get that shot of the pair. what do you think bee23 , too obscene?