LEDs are just now getting there. You need at least 100W and with the latest high efficient LEDs. Those 45W panels just don't work for much (rooting clones maybe)
I completely understand some of the controversy, most of the early products were crap. Also, I'm sorry, but if it takes the UFO longer to bud - that's a problem. Sure you can make up for too little light by budding a couple of weeks longer - but that's not what we want.
The products that work are the superled and the prycon100. They will keep up with a 400W hid. They do cost $700, but the power savings will make up for it.
LED is definitely the future.
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