seedling's White Widow AND Grape Ape Grow Journal -Nov2008

[bubblebagman]

dude....you should have perlite in your soil.

[flyfishinrock]

try goknat to kill em in the soil, just add as directed to H20 and water. worked in 1 treatment for me in my hydro res

[flyfishinrock]

^ totally need perlite in there so those babies can breath. The leaves dont draw in oxygen the roots do, the perlite loosens up your soil so that can happen.
This is kool, its like you borrowed my plants!! I've been growing grape ape for two years now, and am growing my first ww's from seed as we speak. Lood Luck

[seedling]

Originally Posted by flyfishinrock

Damn this is a busy thread!! Welcome seedling

Alright first to clarify something real quick, the potato dosent do anything but draw them out for id purposes and to give you a chance to pinch the heads off a few of the lil bastards for fun!! lol its an attractant nothing more, but if you can attract them away from the greens its allll good.
I got at least two organic sprays that seem to kick ass, click this link:
check out the "PHARM" sprays, I get mine from fred meyers, but these are the same The two I have are"Flower Pharm" its main ingredient is cinnamon oil; and the second is "Indoor Pharm" it uses organic soap and almond oil.

I suggest everyone check these out and give one or more a try, almost all of them are very effective in controling molds and mildew also. Dont use "Fish Pharm" in the house, ever....trust me.

Hope this helps ya

I see, that totally makes sense about the potato. As for the pesticide, I bought something called Ed Rosenthal's Zero Tolerance it sounds exactly like what you are talking about. The website for it is Ed Rosenthal's Zero Tolerance Natural Garden Solutions

I'm taking notes though! Like I said in previous posts, I'm on a very restricted budget! It sucks and I wish that were not the case, I would probably have some nice White Widow bud right now But maybe it'll pay off even more since shes over 4ft now IN VEG

[seedling]

Originally Posted by bubblebagman

dude....you should have perlite in your soil.

Is perlite those white crack rock looking things, I have that now, just not in these older pics

I'll keep posting!

[seedling]

Originally Posted by flyfishinrock

try goknat to kill em in the soil, just add as directed to H20 and water. worked in 1 treatment for me in my hydro res

Goknat eh? Is that organic? I'm trying to stay as organic as possible. Sounds great though. I'd LOVE to get rid of my pests!

[seedling]

09/06/08
Went about a week without photos, not sure why it's been a while.













I'm pretty sure I was really baked when I took all these this night As you can see I went a little camera happy

[seedling]

Originally Posted by flyfishinrock

^ totally need perlite in there so those babies can breath. The leaves dont draw in oxygen the roots do, the perlite loosens up your soil so that can happen.
This is kool, its like you borrowed my plants!! I've been growing grape ape for two years now, and am growing my first ww's from seed as we speak. Lood Luck

Haha awesome! my White Widow is the oldest, shes over 4ft now :O I need to clone and flower her!!!!! I'm in the process of trying to obtain some lights but they are expensive. I'm looking at some 600w HPS - 1000w HPS, I found the 1000w on ebay for $125.99 brand new, here are the details:

1000W Hydroponics Lighting Kit

FREE SHIPPING AND HANDLING

• 1000W HID bulb (140,000 lumens, mogul base) 55K
• Fixture with polished reflector
• Remote ballast with switch and heavy duty 12' quick detach cords

One year warranty on the ballast from defective parts or workmanship.

Misuse and modifications made to the ballast will void the warranty.

Great for hydroponic gardening or other high light output requirements.

Reliable, durable and guaranteed!

Dimensions:

Heat resistant mogul ceramic socket attached to reflector: 20” long x 8 ½” wide x 3” high. 12 foot lamp cord plugs into the ballast.

Ballast: 13” long x 6” wide x 5” high. 5 foot grounded power cord.

Can anyone give me advice on this because I have an ebay coupon for 10% off and it ends in 7 days!! I want to take full advantage and pay as little as possible for the most output, but I also don't want to regret anything with possible loss.


Thanks you guys are AWESOME!

[seedling]

09/08/08:



You guys get to see a little more of my room and my computer area in this pic:



Again, Widow listening to some soothing tunes:





This huge blue thing you guys see here is a custom PC I built myself too in case anyone is like wtf is that?







So what do you guys think so far.. Has anyone looked at the rest of the photos I've uploaded? And does anyone have any advice on that 1000w HPS??? I would love to flower my widow as I hear plants usually go anywhere from 2-5 times their size when flowering, that would make her 8ft tallOMG all that WW nugg!!

[seedling]

Alright, time for me to hit the hay! I'll be up early to feed the girls and post more pics, since Grape Ape is still missing from the scene here as I am going in chronological order. Also, if anyone can help me out on the lights decision I would GREATLY appreciate it! Thanks for everything! PEACE

[flyfishinrock]

be vary leary of SUPER good deals, cheap ballasts can die without any warning, just a hum and then nuthin!! alot of power runs through those babys dont wanna burn your house down. Try and find a special on a name brand if you can, preferably not asian. no offense intended asian dudes and dudettes. That reflector is like 15 bucks online, even on a tight budget you should get a better one, seriously. Around a hundred bucks will get you one that will last for years, spread the light pretty even, and reflect 97% or better. Believe me I know about workin a budget, and if it takes eating top ramen for a month it'll be worth it. I promise. About $300 bucks for a complete 1ooow HPS set-up (solid quality, not top of the line), which should include a quality bulb. How big of a space are you going to use? a 600 may save a few $ in the end and get you relativly the same results if put closer to the plant. I must be stoned, I'm babbling again; sorry.

gognats is organic, the main ingred is cedar oil. about $17 at the grow store. about enough for 160 gallons of treated water.

lmao "crack rock lookin things"
plants look good, could use more intence light though, then the branches would be closer together; but all in all appear to be healthy.
stay the course



really thats all i got........lol

[bubblebagman]

Originally Posted by seedling

Is perlite those white crack rock looking things, I have that now, just not in these older pics

I'll keep posting!

LOL....yeah it's those crack rock looking things......they help keep your soil fluffy and creates air pockets in the soil allowing the roots to breath properly.

[Bee23]

bubblebagman what about dynarok could that be as good as perlite?

[bubblebagman]

seedling....before you go and buy an MH or HPS ballast....You should look into electronic ballasts....These ballasts can use either MH or HPS bulbs.... it eliminates the purpose of buying multiple ballasts...In my area these ballasts are sold for 750W for $340 and 1000W for $440...They burn brighter than standard magnetic ballasts...and weigh much less...Good thing to look into.

[bubblebagman]

Originally Posted by Bee23

bubblebagman what about dynarok could that be as good as perlite?

Dynarok ? I never heard of it. I'm in Canada, We have different products than The U.S.....what's supposed to be the purpose of dynarok?