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Old 05-23-2009, 01:46 PM   #31
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Re: indosmoke-firstgrow/bagseed09

ive been using the grow big for 2 weeks and just started the tiger yesterday
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Old 05-23-2009, 03:17 PM   #33
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Old 05-23-2009, 06:15 PM   #34
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i'm cool to put them in to flowering tomorrow.. right everyone?
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Old 05-23-2009, 11:39 PM   #36
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Re: indosmoke-firstgrow/bagseed09

went to home depot and bought
2 63 watt (300 watt equiv CFLS)
4 23 watt (100 watt equiv CFLS)
and a full 100 watt CFL from my friend w hood
all 2700 k
offically flowering now

any suggestions or ideas?
btw the shit stalk plant you see is my fiends. he asked me if i could take care of it. it has 1 main cola and a couple small buds towards the bottom, almost all the leaves are dying. didnt give it nutes and it is growing in cow shit. no way it could affect mine is there?




the flower room isnt great so i plan on enhancing it once i get the girls and get the other plant outta there.
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also im planning on moving the pots closer because i feel like they are to spread out and my grow space should be smaller.
the plants can be touching yes or no?
good idea?
i have 2 fans in there but how should they be set up? should i get more?
any other ideas would be dope
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last question, can or should i run any of my veg cfls during flowering?
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Old 05-24-2009, 02:38 AM   #39
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Many people mix spectrum's during flowering and many HPS bulbs that are used for flowering include at least some blue spectrum to keep the plant's bushier. I would say if you have them use them. Try not to overpower as the lower spectrum reds need to be the majority of the light source but 1 or 2 of your veg lights probably would not hurt things in my opinion. Good luck!
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Re: indosmoke-firstgrow/bagseed09

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went to home depot and bought
2 63 watt (300 watt equiv CFLS)
4 23 watt (100 watt equiv CFLS)
and a full 100 watt CFL from my friend w hood
all 2700 k
offically flowering now

any suggestions or ideas?
318 watts of 2700K CFL?

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it has 1 main cola and a couple small buds towards the bottom, almost all the leaves are dying. didnt give it nutes and it is growing in cow shit. no way it could affect mine is there?
Not unless it has bugs lol.

Well... Might be useful to tie it down so you don't end up with a nice even canopy that you could have all the lights set up perfectly just above - except for one really tall plant that throws it off.

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also im planning on moving the pots closer because i feel like they are to spread out and my grow space should be smaller.
the plants can be touching yes or no?
good idea?
Touching? You don't want them close enough that one plant's leaves are shading another's. Also LST any multi-branched plants so that each branch gets light. Then allow for them to stretch for the next 22 or more days.

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i have 2 fans in there but how should they be set up? should i get more?
Blowing at the plants: If the CFLs are producing heat and are within an inch or three of them then make sure at least one fan is blowing across the top portion of the canopy and either have the other fan help it out or just in and up from a bottom corner, blowing at the opposite upper corner. Unless you meant how to set up exhaust fans...

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last question, can or should i run any of my veg cfls during flowering?
More light

Sure; with 318 watts of 2700K... add 80-100 watts or so of 6500K for a more balanced spectrum.

That might be adequate for 6 square feet or so if you can get the lights balanced - and make halfway-decent reflectors for all of them (soda/beer cans work for the smaller-sized CFL bulbs).

If your space is going to end up being larger than that, you might wish to add more CFLs (75% 2700K 25% 6500K).

And if you do not plan on training your plants you would end up wanting more CFLs because they don't have the best penetration ability and an uneven canopy would be likely to have you placing bulbs at different heights.

Might as well put them all in 3 - 3.5 gallon pots. Make any needed adjustments to your soil such as adding perlite until it makes up 25%-30% of the volume.

As the plants will "stretch" for the first 40% of the flowering period, they are still going to be using a bit of nitrogen. When (female) flowers begin to appear you would want to start dropping the ratio of N to P. I would guess that the plant would use less nitrogen during the last 60% of flowering than it does in the first 40%. Probably a good bit less. If you manage to gradually taper off the nitrogen so that the leaves don't yellow prematurely but there is as little as possible at harvest (flush) time then you win lol.
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Re: indosmoke-firstgrow/bagseed09

wow thanks a lot TORTURED, thats a lot of useful info.
i just went to the store and picked up 2 more 42 watt cfls (equiv to 150).

how much longer till i can determine the males from the females?
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Old 05-26-2009, 04:15 PM   #45
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dam, i was thinkin more like 2day lol
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