Prop. 5 for California

[hippiebob]

Vote Yes on Prop. 5. Prop. 5 will reduce posession of an ounce or less of cannabis to an "infraction", the same as a traffic ticket. Vote Yes on Prop. 5.

[Umpsy]

Bump. Yes on 5 for California.

-Umpsy

[Soniq420]

^^

Also, let's out of prison all the non-violent prisoners, unfairly locked up solely because of their love for a plant

[Neko150]

Interesting I haven't really heard anything about Prop 5 in the media... MJ is already de-criminalized, and SB 420 further defined how officers should treat MMJ users - is this mostly about releasing MJ users who have been incarcerated?

[420]

MJ is NOT decriminalized Neko, where are you living?
the only places in the states that Cannabis is decriminalized is West Hollywood and Mendocino.

to answer your question, please read the text of prop 5 here
Full Text of California Prop. 5

[Neko150]

At the state level, < 1oz possession is a misdemeanor, not a criminal offense... Thanks for the link!

[420]

neko, a misdemeanor is still a criminal offense.

A misdemeanor, or misdemeanour, in many common law legal systems, is a "lesser" criminal act. Misdemeanors are generally punished much less severely than felonies, but theoretically more so than administrative infractions (also known as regulatory offenses). Many misdemeanors are punished with monetary fines. Usually only repeat misdemeanor offenders are punished by actual jail time.

In the United States, the federal government generally considers a crime punishable by a year or less in prison to be a misdemeanor.[1] All other crimes are felonies. Many states also follow this.

The distinction between a felony and misdemeanor has been abolished by most other common law jurisdictions (e.g. Crimes Act 1958 (Vic., Australia) s. 332B(1), Crimes Act 1900 (NSW., Australia) s. 580E(1)). Those jurisdictions have generally adopted some other classification, e.g. in Canada, Australia, the Republic of Ireland and the United Kingdom, the crimes are divided into summary offences and indictable offences.

In some jurisdictions, those who are convicted of a misdemeanor are known as misdemeanants (as contrasted with those convicted of a felony who are known as felons). Depending on the jurisdiction, examples of misdemeanors may include: petty theft, prostitution, public intoxication, simple assault, disorderly conduct, trespass, vandalism, and other similar crimes. In the United States, misdemeanors are crimes with a maximum punishment of 12 months of incarceration, typically in a local jail (again, as contrasted with felons, who are typically incarcerated in a prison). Those people who are convicted of misdemeanors are often punished with probation, community service or part-time imprisonment, served on the weekends.

Misdemeanors usually do not result in the loss of civil rights, but may result in loss of privileges, such as professional licenses, public offices, or public employment. Such effects are known as the collateral consequences of criminal charges. This is more common when the misdemeanor is related to the privilege in question (such as the loss of a taxi driver's license after a conviction for reckless driving), or when the misdemeanor involves moral turpitude – and in general is evaluated on a case-by-case basis. One prominent example of this is found in the United States Constitution, which provides that the President may be impeached by Congress for "high crimes and misdemeanors" and removed from office accordingly. The definition of a "high" misdemeanor is left to the judgment of Congress.

Within classes of offenses, the form of punishment can vary widely. For example, the US federal government and many U.S. states divide misdemeanors into several classes, with certain classes punishable by jail time and others carrying only a fine. When a statute does not specify the class, it is referred to as an unclassified misdemeanor. Sometimes this is done when legislators wish to impose a penalty that falls outside the framework specified in the classes. For instance, Virginia has four classes of misdemeanors, with Class 1 and Class 2 misdemeanors being punishable by twelve-month and six-month jail sentences, respectively, and Class 3 and Class 4 misdemeanors being non-jail offenses payable by fines; but first-time marijuana possession is an unclassified misdemeanor punishable by serving up to 30 days in jail[2][3].
Misdemeanor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Neko150]

Right, when I said decriminalized I in no way meant to imply legalized ;-)

[Racefan]

Originally Posted by 420

MJ is NOT decriminalized Neko, where are you living?
the only places in the states that Cannabis is decriminalized is West Hollywood and Mendocino.

to answer your question, please read the text of prop 5 here
Full Text of California Prop. 5

Mendocino is changing. Too many have decided to move to the county because they think it's a safe place to grow. They abuse the freedoms and smoke in public and even on school grounds. The DA and locals have had enough. Read the paper out of Ukiah which is the county seat.
www.ukiahdailyjournal.com
They recently passed a measure G which put limits on plant counts. It was found unconstitutional so now it's no longer 6 mature plants per grower and instead is 25 plants per parcel. They are also now going after 6 to 25 plant mom and pop growers and purposely are leaving the 1000+ commercial grows alone because they feel the mom and pop busts are easier and require less resources to bust. Read the blogs and comments.

[Soniq420]

^^

Racefan,

The link only took me to the front page, I couldn't find the story you were talking about.

Sorry to hear things are getting out of control in Mendiceno, this could be quite bad for the movement.

The targeting of 6-25 seems like the scarecrow approach to law enforcement.

[Soniq420]

So a little more searching and I think this is the story you were talking about

Growers: Your Booking Photo Here - Topix

There does seem to be a lot of frustration and anger on those boards and from the population.

All that said I thihnk it's the prohibition that's the problem. If there is no profit motive, there won't be the effort to create the excess supply for export out of the county.

The grow for profit crowd is a direct result of the high pricing cause by prohibition, and growers will gravitate to any area they believe holds a lower risk.

[strangerdude]

i already had yes on my pre-ballot, just double checked.

[EricSilentbob]

VOTE YES on Prop 5

Decriminalize POT!

[HappyKitty]

Calling all Californians...vote!

YES on proposition 5. I've cast my ballot, have you?

This is a step in the right direction towards the legalization of marijuana. Let's save the prison space for the criminals!

Everyone who talks about making a difference, how wrong the laws are, and can't something be done, needs to cast their vote. This is what you can do to make a difference.

I'm an absentee voter. It's a wonderful thing. You can sit on your couch and vote.

[Pinch]

You bet I did Ms Kitty! (voted early...)

I hope everyone in California will too.

We have too many prisoners, too many prisons, too many stupid laws putting people there.