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Old 06-21-2009, 08:14 PM   #1
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6 mature plants OR 12 immature plants. combination

i am concerned that i am not within the legal limits of the law. My county gives permission for 6 mature plants OR 12 immature plants AND 8 ounces of bud. i am wodering about a combination of mature and imature plants. i have two mothers and like 6 like 6 plants i want to flower. but the law says OR not AND. can anyone tell me if i can keep a mother and flower legaly
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Old 06-21-2009, 10:50 PM   #2
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"11362.77. (a) A qualified patient or primary caregiver may possess no more than eight ounces of dried marijuana per qualified patient. In addition, a qualified patient or primary caregiver may also maintain no more than six mature or 12 immature marijuana plants per qualified patient."


i read it like you can have both, just no more then the designated amount of either mature or immature... you can have no more then 6 mature or no more then 12 immature. thats what my doc told me aswell.
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Old 06-22-2009, 12:12 AM   #3
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hmm the wording is ambigious and it indicated ether or instead of and.
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re: 6 mature plants OR 12 immature plants. combination

It's up for interpretation, based on the judge.

What's defined as a mature and immature plant seems to be omitted.

I'm going to assume the 12 immature and 6 mature was decided due to the theory that you'd probably harvest 1 - 6 plants at a time, for personal use. However, it takes several months to grow them, so you'd likely have several immature ones growing behind them.

Also, notice the numbers 6 and 12. Year and half year. One plant a month SHOULD be able to hold a patient over. :D
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re: 6 mature plants OR 12 immature plants. combination

My personal understanding...

I think they're thinking plant 12, flower them, half are males and get pulled, then you have the six remaining mature females that you take the rest of the way. When done, you start over from seed.

Regardless of what phase you are in, you can have the 8 OZ in addition to the live plants.

This is what is known as the safe harbor provision or the minimum amount that any patient in the state can have. Your doctor's recommendation may allow you to have more, and/or different counties have written their safe harbor minimums at larger amounts.

The state law keeps this level as a min, counties can increase but not decrease from there.

They apparently didn't take alternate continuous growing methods into account (mothers, SOG, cloning), or feminized seeds.
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Old 07-07-2009, 05:58 PM   #6
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thats wack!!!!
now i dont know if i am even legal
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re: 6 mature plants OR 12 immature plants. combination

Not necessarily, what did your doctor's recommendation allow?

The values are minimums meaning that no county may restrict below that level.
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So would I be under the limit if I had 3 mature and 6 immature? I want to have a perpetual grow but stay under the safe harbor.
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re: 6 mature plants OR 12 immature plants. combination

I'm not a lawyer, but I'd say no. I'd love to hear from a lawyer on this.

If your going strictly by the state's safe harbor minimum and don't have a doctor's recommendaion to exceed, then I'd think you'd need to be 3 mature, 3 immature. I say this because the law is phrased "OR"
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re: 6 mature plants OR 12 immature plants. combination

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So would I be under the limit if I had 3 mature and 6 immature? I want to have a perpetual grow but stay under the safe harbor.
No your over the limit. It's either 6 mature or 12 inmature. The only way to stay within limits and have both inmature and mature is to not total more than 6 plants total. Teamgillys mothers are 2 of the 6. He's allowed 4 more plants. Period.
BUT.....your doctor decideds what's legal for you, not the county. Talk to him/her and discuss edibles. Tell him/her that 6 isn't enough to make butter and cook with and tell him to write on your recommendation that you require more. i'm allowed 25 plants total and 5lbs of processed bud at any time even though my county does the 6 and 12 too.
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i'm allowed 25 plants total and 5lbs of processed bud at any time even though my county does the 6 and 12 too.
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New plan: spouse gets req also.

So we could have 6 flowering under my req and 12 clones/moms under her's.

Think we would be golden?

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hey uh racefan....mind on letting me know the clinic to go to? hehehe....

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ok ill the girlfriend thing and ask my dr. thanks
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Wifes a patient, Im the caregiver,

can we only have 6 plants total?

Or 12?

6 + 6

Common sense tells me 6 total, but whats the law?
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