Second grow 3 Mangos and a Blue Mystic DWC BUBBLEtastic

[PAchamama]

same methodstemp in a dwc are not as crutial in the begining i deffinatly understand what you are saying but there is nothing i can do and most do not have the amount of oxygen running through there water i can garentee that my oxygen saturation is peaked. lol good looknig out man thanks a bunch nice to know people are there watching your back, anyways like i said i think her starting soon i will be adding ice every day or adding a 8-12oz water bottle prefrozento each bucket twice a dayand also fully washed and sanitised twice a day to make sure no cross contamination. well all and all day 15 of veg went well

[Andy Botwin]

Originally Posted by PAchamama

temp in a dwc are not as crutial in the begining

Did someone tell you this? Or did you read this somewhere? I ask because this is the exact opposite of everything I have ever read, heard and learned through trial-and-error. Although slightly elevated temps encourage better seed germination and initial root development, at three weeks in, maintaining high res temps is just asking for trouble. So, if dropping some frozen bottles in there can help bring things down, then be all means, proceed ASAP.

Originally Posted by PAchamama

most do not have the amount of oxygen running through there water i can garentee that my oxygen saturation is peaked.

According to science it is impossible that you have your Dissolved Oxygen 'peaked' if your temps are @ 27C. I provided a simple graph extracted from an Introductory Chemistry text to illustrate what I am talking about. It is simply not physically possible for oxygen in aqueous solution to be as dissolved @ 27 degrees as it is at lower temps. The current consensus is that ~18C is optimal.

In addition, as solution temperatures rise, the micro-organisms present actually require more oxygen. Higher temperatures increase metabolic rates and more oxygen is required as a result. Unfortunately, this is kind of a double whammy, but the bad kind. The microbial strains you're adding to your res are being exposed to higher temps and they want more oxygen, but can't get it as a result of less oxygen being available because of that same high temperature. Eventually, the microbes burn themselves out and just leave that sludge you're seeing. Sadly, I know all this from experience.

Originally Posted by PAchamama

good looknig out man thanks a bunch nice to know people are there watching your back

You're welcome bro. Personally I am a big fan of DWC for hydroponic growing and I want to see you succeed. I think, generally, all the fellas and ladies on the 420mag.com Forums are here with the same goal: help each other learn how to grow better, faster. If we've made the mistakes, then you don't have to. Best of luck, we'll be lurking.

[PAchamama]

ok let me phrase it like this at an degree of tempature there is a certin percentage of maximum oxygen saturation (i have a couple charts too) ex, so if at 27C my oxygen % is right around 7.8-8.1% what i was saying for that temp i am to the max on oxygen saturation(i have peaked 8.1) it is not as crutial because the roots are not that big requiring less oxygen they are doing great i will keep the journal updated. Andy are you fimilure with DIFFUSERS(lee's wood ones are famous)? I ask becuause most people use regular air stone and not getting the oxygen they should be gettingmaybe i willl try to post a video or somthing or the supersuper fine bubbles

[PAchamama]

Ok so about with 2-3 gallons in each bucket i was really difficult yesterday to get and keep it down to where i want the temp in the bucket but i have another idea freeze water bottles and add once a day or twice as needed I will post the results tomarrow here are some pics to keep everyone going.
I fim'ed the three mangos blue mystic growing a lil slow so weel see if i decide to keep her. sorry the pics are not the greatest.




here is the air thigni fabricated thought i did a good job

[munki]

Good luck with the rez temps. It is for that reason I prefer ebb and flow over DWC.

[PAchamama]

Originally Posted by munki

Good luck with the rez temps. It is for that reason I prefer ebb and flow over DWC.

thanks man I have been thinking of making a DIY chiller pretty easy just need a mini fridge. I would like to go to ebb&flow butkindawant to get the most nutes all the time if i can. so i will try to get some kinks out this time see if i can get s sucessfull sytem of my own and hopefully it works .well thats the plan and we all know how those go.

[Andy Botwin]

Take a look at this thread:DIY Ghetto-Fab Chiller under $20

I thought this was a grand idea for a low cost method to keep nutrient solution/reservoir temperatures down.

[munki]

PAchamama,

You have been PMed. I checked Craigslist for water cooler and could easily find ones being sold for $35. So many small businesses are selling off stuff cheap which is a boon to the DIYer.

[PAchamama]

thank you to both of yo those are some great ideas wow. was out for a few days big growth spurt postin pics soon.

[PAchamama]

ok havent worked out the right timming on the bottle type size and how often I like the water cooler ideas they are neat. I am pretty good at fabricating stuff so i think i work this matter out. I am posting a couple pics of the results of topping one and fim'd two sorry the pics kinda suck but I need to take them again in there dark. period. SO here they are.

[Setting Sun]

Plants are looking very nice!

+rep!

[PAchamama]

hey thank you man I really really like the gene's of the two on the rightfront and back they are growing somuch faster than the other two and one of the other two is still having a couple twisted leaves wierd man same everything damn dirty jeans. as for your grow wow man looking prettypretty what part of cali are you from north, south, bay, I have a aunt that lives near yosimite so damn nice up there

[PAchamama]

Some of my leaves are now curling down just at the tips check it out no idea why all my ph is at 5.6-5.8 and roots are in great shape . I have been trying to finda cooler found one at a thrift store but they wanted 25 bucks and it was missing some stuff I was mad they would'n't lower the price anyways here are some pics
cant belive the camera took this half way descent one




the top of the one that has the best gene's

any help would be greatly apreiciate damn I can't spell

[PAchamama]

OK RES CHANGE
To each 5 gal jug 32ml of sensi A and 32ml of sensi B were added 1 gram each of prihana and trantula, and 100ml of B-52. Iadded 2 1/2 gallons to each of the four buckets after cleaning and starilizing each of them. the end result was 1120 ppm in each bucket and ph was at 6.4 waited 6 hours as recamended by manufacture and set PH to 5.7-5.8. everything is al well at days 21 in VEG posting pics sOON.

[PAchamama]

ANYONE THERE?
oK SO HERE ARE SOME MORE PICS of the PLANTS they are LOOKING GREAT AT DAY 22 OF VEG. I'm guessing maybe another week or two and I can start SeXing.I would like to know if anyone OUt THERE can tell me What they think of the tip curl.




I also got the res temps to maintain at 22-25C