LED GROW TEST. 126W hydro grow led VS. 180W

[dogsnova]

Originally Posted by scumbragger

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I new you were going to pull something cool.. Sweet bro... Your now my f**in hero..

[scumbragger]

Originally Posted by dogsnova

This is one of the TRICKS right here folks... HID growers that only get .5 - .75 gram/watt are NOT going to magically get 1g + per watt with LED's.. The people getting 1g per watt with LED's are the same people that were getting 1g per watt with HPS or better..If you think just because you switched to LED's and now you can somehow get 1+ grams per watt (LOL) when you couldn't get 1g per watt with HID's, then your kidding yourself and the others members here..(shame on you).. You mind explaining to me and the members here how you can get 1g + per watt with LED's and you couldn't get 1g per watt with the sweet 400w hydro setup you posted about a few post ago?.. In this tread on this forum.. Stick around folks this should be good.

YEP that's called HOPE! But Mike isn't selling any of that...LOL...If LED's are so much more efficient, how much electricity will I save growing the same amount of weed with the same amount of watts making the same amount of heat to get rid of?

[dogsnova]

Originally Posted by scumbragger

YEP that's called HOPE! But Mike isn't selling any of that...LOL...If LED's are so much more efficient, how much electricity will I save growing the same amount of weed with the same amount of watts making the same amount of heat to get rid of?

Good question my friend...But mike seems like a stand up guy.. But frankly I can't justify the price myself.. In 5 years when it cost $500 for that same unit, then I can talk...But $1,800 ... Not today... Sorry..

[lv420man]

Originally Posted by dogsnova

A few LED growers myself included should see how much it would cost to get an LED only forum...... That way we could test any light we want and give honest grow results with no pressure.....

Why not just do it here at 420 Mag?

[dogsnova]

I am talking about at 420mag.. Got soniq looking into it already.. I'm Just looking to get a public LED forum. One were we can all test and discuss different LED products on the market. Plus more advanced methods of using LED's also..

[growing hood]

I'm more then interested in something that works but a 12% discount when I set folks up with their own grows and the contacts I have up here in the hydro industry only to be told your lights didn't work cause you can't grow shit...you know what they say, once bitten, twice shy! I would be the first to say I'm sorry If I'm wrong MIke,,,,,BUT A GRAM / WATT ISN"T GOING TO CUT IT![/QUOTE]

ps light is getting 1.25 gpw on a differrent forum so im guessing mikes light would have to surpass that if his 3 watt led are really the ''secret'' behind his lights. although ever source confirms that 3 one watters is more efficient than 1 three watt led, on terms of heat and light output. 99 one watters also cover more area than 33 three watt leds, the whole idea of leds is efficiency not penetration. not saying your trying to rip people off mike just that i dont think your light is as efficient as it could be, plus id love to see a 1.5 gpw with a stationary led

[growing hood]

Originally Posted by scumbragger

YEP that's called HOPE! But Mike isn't selling any of that...LOL...If LED's are so much more efficient, how much electricity will I save growing the same amount of weed with the same amount of watts making the same amount of heat to get rid of?

why do you think that 600 watts of hid puts off the same as 600 watts of led? to have that generalization would to also have you believe that hps and mh put off the same heat for the same amount of wattage, its not like that. im guessing you also think 400 watts of hps puts off the same heat as 400 in cfl, not to mention its not the same lumen output, quit hating and just think, you can put your bare a$$ on a 600 led after an entire day of running, i just wanna see your a$$ after you try that with a hps after its been on for only 30 min.

[dogsnova]

I can also add to that and say that a 400w CMH runs cooler then both a 400w HPS and a 400w MH..I Still wouldn't put my bare $ss on any one of them..

[scumbragger]

Originally Posted by growing hood

why do you think that 600 watts of hid puts off the same as 600 watts of led? to have that generalization would to also have you believe that hps and mh put off the same heat for the same amount of wattage, its not like that. im guessing you also think 400 watts of hps puts off the same heat as 400 in cfl, not to mention its not the same lumen output, quit hating and just think, you can put your bare a$$ on a 600 led after an entire day of running, i just wanna see your a$$ after you try that with a hps after its been on for only 30 min.

That's cause your talking touching the light, [edit], but I'm talking about the difference each makes to the temps in your room when watts for watts are compared.That's heat displacement. Take the plastic cover off and place the LED's on your [edit] and then come talk to me!

[scumbragger]

Originally Posted by growing hood

I'm more then interested in something that works but a 12% discount when I set folks up with their own grows and the contacts I have up here in the hydro industry only to be told your lights didn't work cause you can't grow shit...you know what they say, once bitten, twice shy! I would be the first to say I'm sorry If I'm wrong MIke,,,,,BUT A GRAM / WATT ISN"T GOING TO CUT IT!

ps light is getting 1.25 gpw on a differrent forum so im guessing mikes light would have to surpass that if his 3 watt led are really the ''secret'' behind his lights. although ever source confirms that 3 one watters is more efficient than 1 three watt led, on terms of heat and light output. 99 one watters also cover more area than 33 three watt leds, the whole idea of leds is efficiency not penetration. not saying your trying to rip people off mike just that i dont think your light is as efficient as it could be, plus id love to see a 1.5 gpw with a stationary led[/QUOTE]

Let's see it...cause i think your calc's are wrong!

[GrowLEDHydro]

ps light is getting 1.25 gpw on a differrent forum so im guessing mikes light would have to surpass that if his 3 watt led are really the ''secret'' behind his lights. although ever source confirms that 3 one watters is more efficient than 1 three watt led, on terms of heat and light output. 99 one watters also cover more area than 33 three watt leds, the whole idea of leds is efficiency not penetration. not saying your trying to rip people off mike just that i dont think your light is as efficient as it could be, plus id love to see a 1.5 gpw with a stationary led[/QUOTE]

Whats up Hood,

The selling secret behind my panels is not just the 3w/3 chip led's its a combination of that plus my 11 wavelengths (each nm at a certain percentage) that everyone seems to forget about and the 90 degree lens its a combination of all of these factors that is the 'secret' behind my panels.

Also about the 1w efficiency issue, well my 180 panel for instance uses 175 3w/3 chip leds a leading manufacturer uses 180 1w led's how is that not efficient? Your getting just about the same amount of led's as the 1w unit, the 3w are extremely brighter and have a more intense light that at the end give you a hell of a lot more yield. How is using 3w/3 chip inefficient?

Well thanks for bringing this up I did want to address this issue.

[GrowLEDHydro]

Hey Scumbragger how are you doing today, I hope better.

Just to clear things up, man I have nothing against you if I did anything to piss you off even more than how pissed of you where, than I apologize. Hope we can befriends somewhere down the line or at least be cool with each other.

[logitech227]

Mike what is the sweet spot for your lights? I talking the distance between the plant and the light? I have mine roughly 4-6inch from the tops? To close?

[IrishBoy]

Originally Posted by dogsnova

This is one of the TRICKS right here folks... HID growers that only get .5 - .75 gram/watt are NOT going to magically get 1g + per watt with LED's.. The people getting 1g per watt with LED's are the same people that were getting 1g per watt with HPS or better..If you think just because you switched to LED's and now you can somehow get 1+ grams per watt (LOL) when you couldn't get 1g per watt with HID's, then your kidding yourself and the others members here..(shame on you).. You mind explaining to me and the members here how you can get 1g + per watt with LED's and you couldn't get 1g per watt with the sweet 400w hydro setup you posted about a few post ago?.. In this tread on this forum.. Stick around folks this should be good.

i agree with this. we all know HID is bad ass, and if you can get 1.g/w with leds then you can most certainly get 1.g/w with HID. untill i see led smoking HID i will believe this. however i do believe led runs cooler in the room, because my 600w led heats up my room less then a 600w hps. but i am not talking about a cool tube.

[IrishBoy]

Originally Posted by scumbragger

That's cause your talking touching the light, which I would rub your bare ass all over the LED too, but I'm talking about the difference each makes to the temps in your room when watts for watts are compared.That's heat displacement. Take the plastic cover off and place the LED's on your ass and then come talk to me!

heat stress on the plants is from the radiant heat from HID beaming down on your plants not from room heat. thats why out door plants still grow just fine out in the summer heat. last grow i did was in 100F*+ room temps and i had no heat stress on my plant using the leds.