Harry's Quest For Indica Dominance

[4twenty4all]

Those 4 do look more blotchy...but maybe I am way off and the stripes have nothing to do with red diesel...but that is the first time that I saw anything like it and just assumed that it is a genetic in the red diesel specifically... Oh well, can't wait to watch this one grow out nice and big.

I just took the chance and ordered online and the first time they were missing from the envelope but it was from Amsterdam so I assume someone knew exactly what they were. I was much more successful with my other orders ;-). I have enough different kinds now that I'll only need to order if something really awesome comes out, but I will order again, eventually... Hope you get a girl!

[Be IRIE]

You guys were cracking me up with your little seed identification process....I was wondering how long it would go on for... HArry, have you decided how you are going to grow it? You going to go for the classic Indica one donkey dick main cola or you going to try some LSTing?

[4twenty4all]

LOL Irie.. It could've gone another round at least if I took another bong hit ;-)

[flyfishinrock]

if I didn't know better I would say you guys and gal are stoned! lol

[Bee23]

LOL@ Donkey Dick

[creamm]

How did you guess ?

[Harry Red]

Originally Posted by Be IRIE

You guys were cracking me up with your little seed identification process....I was wondering how long it would go on for... Harry, have you decided how you are going to grow it? You going to go for the classic Indica one donkey dick main cola or you going to try some LSTing?

We're tired of all this bud porn. We wanted to see some seed porn. lol

Seriously though, I've been thinking about that. I figured I'd LST the Sativas but I'm undecided about the Indica.

I'm wondering if the sex of the plant can be affected by the additional stress of LSTing or is the sex locked into the seed and predetermined before it's planted? Maybe I'll just lean it back a little, as I've seen you do, but I'm really more interested in getting a female than any increased yield. At this point, having an Indica female to clone for the future is way more important than more colas.

What do you think? Should I just let it grow naturally and keep the stress to a minimum?



Harry

[Be IRIE]

When it comes to Indicas I like the big cola, I lean them back to their weak side and will grab any clones from back there. I thought I read that they are one cola dominant meaning that they focus on the main ( and I may have just made that up, not sure with all the info I have piled up in the last year).. I may have to give it a try sometime. As for the stress, not sure I agree with that totally. Out of my three G's the one that was burned when it had one true leaf set, split into 2 shoots that I split in half when I was LSTing it and took a good month to recover was the only female... So who knows... Hopefully it will be a she....

[Harry Red]

I'm with you on the male/female chances but it's an interesting question that may make for for a lively discussion thread.

I do believe that additional stress may cause hermie tendencies to pop out but I believe if it's a stable strain, there will always be an equal percentage of females to males (on average, with a large enough sample size).

While not optimum, I wouldn't be that disappointed if it were a good male. I'd pollinate every female I had and get some breeding experience. Who knows, I might end up with a really killer cross.



Harry

[4twenty4all]

Just to give you an idea about how many seeds you get.... I average 40 - 50 seeds per small lower bud that I pollinate. I agree with Irie about leaning it back to get more bud if its a she. I'm really hoping for a girl for you :-)

[oks226]

Hey Harry, I caught up on your two other journals and am on board for this one. Let me get this straight though, you are using 1, 600 watt HPS for flower and are producing over a pound?!?!?! Thats AWESOME Harry, good luck with the new grow!

[Bee23]

Ya, Harry has a magical green thumb.
and he has great seed porn too

[Harry Red]

40-50 seeds per branch would be awesome 4twenty4all. I'm gonna have to go back an review your journal on that bag technique.

lol @ Bee23 seed porn.

Originally Posted by oks226

Hey Harry, I caught up on your two other journals and am on board for this one. Let me get this straight though, you are using 1, 600 watt HPS for flower and are producing over a pound?!?!?! Thats AWESOME Harry, good luck with the new grow!

Thanks for checking out the journals oks226!! I am growing some heavy producing Sativas though. I had good success with LSTing and was getting several 3'-4' main colas from each plant. The last two plants I harvested produced 6oz each.

I'm using a hanging mylar box and a single 600w HPS high output bulb with an electronic ballast. With movable walls of mylar, I can get it right in on the plants. I'm trying to get the most of the 600watter by using as much reflected light as possible. It's open at the top and bottom for air flow and the HVAC vent is at the top, providing fresh air, heat & cooling as needed.

Here's a pic of the setup.




Here's the Indica at day 20 from seed..



It looks health and happy in the tron. I'm gonna have to get it out of that 20oz cup real soon.



Harry

[4twenty4all]

That bag system for collecting pollen is pretty easy and worked great for me twice, good luck with that! I love your hanging room every time I see it man... And that indica is looking great too, very compact and healthy looking....this is going to be yet another great grow. Time to go make a turkey sandwich...one of maybe 20 this week with all that left-over turkey LOL

[flyfishinrock]

so your using a phototron for veg? Never seen one in person, just in mags. What is the approximate size of a tron?
Your indica is looking very happy, think I even saw a smile in the pic!! lol
keep it up Harry