Double strawberry diesel

[pan4gold49]

Glad you found your camera.
Your garden looks great.
I'm glad I did a journal of Amsterdam it was fuzzy the whole time I was there.

Pan4

[Ms.Fox]

Just beautiful flyfishinrock! You go!

[flyfishinrock]

Thanks Pan, and Ms. Fox. No real news to report today, except that the grape crush seem to like their new larger pots; I kind of wonder if these were left in the dark a bit befor I received them as they have the sort of leaves I've only seen on plants that are regenerating. Three bladed with little or no visible vains (sort of smooth), and without serrations on the edges.
I am brewing a tea tonight, actually I started it early this afternoon. Its a test run for a flowering tea that will be used on the DSD if it works out on the trial plants. The make-up is as follows:

5gal de-chlorinated tap water
3/4 cup peace of mind Bat Guano 0-5-0
2 TBSP Down to Earth "Acid Mix" 4-3-6 (cottonseed meal,bone meal,fish meal,rock phosphate, langbeinite)
2 TBSP Fox Farm Big Bloom .01-.3-.7
2TBSP unsulphered molasses

I put the solids in a filter suspended in the water with two air pumps agitating the mixture. I also stir on occasion. I am curious as to what the ph is going to be from this concoction, I've never brewed a tea befor so its kinda fun. I am planing on pulling half the liquid out and diluting with equal parts h2o before applying it as a soil drench. Should I add some neptunes fish and seaweed to it befor watering? Also I will check the ec just for a referance # , as I get the impression organics nute readings aren't that accurate anyway.
Oh yeah I almost forgot, when I did the clones I took one of each and an extra of a few of them. I am going to see if a light foliar nuting helps in the flowering process on the duplicates (just to satisfy my curiosity).
Looks like were starting our three months of rain now, then it will be outdoor season in the Great NW.

[flightkb]

WTF........Shits outrageous

[flyfishinrock]

thanks flightkb.
The PH of the tea turned out to be 6.7, and read .5 ec after I diluted it to 50%, I am not sure if its strong enough but I tried it to see what happens. I may try full strength in a few days if I can keep the tea fresh.

[Cherma]

ffr hope the hike was a good one. The soils look good and plants are green, healthy, fatter and bushier. I am glad to hear no ph balance problems thus far. Thanks for the answer on the costs of what you were spending on Hydro. You'll like the Tea's like I do, Sometimes I get a little over zealous and hit them a little to hard, looks like you have taken steps for dilution.

[flyfishinrock]

Thank You Cherma, the hike was very relaxing; and just what I needed. As far as the dilution goes, I fear I am being too cautious. The problems I had last grow are still fresh in my mind, and since I haven't actually figured out what the heck happened I am going to be cautious with this grow. I cannot waste another three months. That being said I am considering adding a bit of blood meal to the tea as a nitrogen boost for a veg tea; if I do it'll probably be 1/3 or 1/2 cup to the five gallons I have going already. I watered with some 5-1-1 fish emulsion today, one TBSP/gal, it took ALOT of lemon to ph the solution. I forgot how nasty this stuff is and don't picture myself using it inside again. LMAO I accidentally got some of the concentrate on my hand, and rather than just washing I thought I would smell it first, talk about giving someone the heaves, tellin ya I was thoroughly sickened.
Heres a quick look at em as they're enjoying the fresh nasty nutes. lol


The clones are still nice and green under 12 hours of indirect hps light, in a dome with 100% humidity. I air them out for a minute or so and wipe the perspiration off the inside of the dome daily. I haven't foliar sprayed any of them yet. Still not sure what to use, I was thinking something like FF Big Bloom or the Neptune's Harvest. Course I could use the tea also. Any thoughts on this anyone?

[Cherma]

Yeah that fish emusion stays outdoors my wife says. They are looking rather luscious and well uniform and symetrical in structure.

The only thing I mist my new cuttings with is straight H2O occasionally using super Thrive and EJ Rootstock in very limited doses.

[flyfishinrock]

I usually don't spray my cuttings at all, except this time I was thinking that since I'm trying to get them to show sex it may help. But i dunno, I'm starting to think it may not be worth it. The plants weren't to sexual maturity when I cloned them so I don't even know if this will work. I tried to find some info around the site but was unable to, I did find a thread elsewhere that was an excerpt from a book that said flowering seeds too early could force asexual tendency's, I never heard of the source before so I don't know if it was reliable; google didn't help much either.
The little veg room is getting real crowded, very soon it will be too crowded. It wasn't designed with this many plants in mind, it was originally made for a small vegging hydro table I have with 4 or 5 plants being ideal. I cant transplant till I know the sex's of the plant's for that reason. Right now I have 15 one gallon pots with maybe an inch between them. I can comfortably accommodate four or maybe five plants for a good veg, those will be the females; the chosen males will flower in some 2 1/2 gallon pots right away for pollen collection. The female clones will be transplanted to soil and then re-vegetated as I will be close to having maxed out my quota for flowering plants. For this reason I may have to only keep one male if the fem ratio is high.

[pan4gold49]

Looking good fly.

Nice clones.

Pan4

[flyfishinrock]

thanks Pan, that most recent pic is of the DSD from seed, they are a lot more uniform than I expected with the exception of "the crinkler", which by the way whispered to me that she was a he. lol As a matter of fact, as of last night nearly all the plants are showing their sex. Right now it looks like 3 males, 5 females, 2 undecided. Whoo hoo!! Its funny, the crinkler showed under 12/12 the same day (but a few hours after) the ones under 24 hours of light. Go figure. The clones aren't showing sex or roots yet, I will continue with them just to see if it'll work; I.E. if they hermie or show a sexual reversal from the donor plants because I went 12/12 so early in their lives.
Also the stanky fish emulsion seemed to have worked, they grew an inch or two yesterday.

[flyfishinrock]

Yesterday I watered the flowering test plants with some stronger tea, full strength actually, I also watered the "confirmed" males with it to make sure the strain can handle the mix. So far so good, I think next time I will add some oyster shell into the soil mix as a form of organic calcium. Also the blood meal I have says the nitrogen is non-water soluble, so I didn't add any to the tea after all. I think that's weird though, it seems to me that blood would break down rather easily in water.

[flyfishinrock]

I transplanted and moved #1 to the flowering tent today, as it has popped out some white hairs. The three suspected males in the flower room are definitely males starting to produce small bundles of male flowers. I haven't decided which one to keep yet as they all look close to identical; one in particular seems to be getting more clusters than the rest; I will make my decision soon and cull the other two out. I think two possibly three more are showing male pre-flowers now, though I will wait a bit to make sure; the other two I am still not sure about yet. The vertical growth is really starting to scare me, they look like they are going to grow very tall before its all said and done. Pics probably tomorrow.

[Dirt Farmer]

Awesome looking grow man.. I'm planning the exact opposite I've never tried hydro so currently getting stuff together for that.

Your babys look sweet for sure... the others should do fine going straight to 12/12, I had a place with less than 3' one time and went straight into flower with fresh clones and it was fine, though a little sluggish the first 5-7 days....Lookin forward to the bud porn!

[flyfishinrock]

Thanks Dirt Farmer, wanna buy some hydro tables? lol
Sorry no pics yet, havent had the time to spare lately. I took some today and will post tonight.
#1 is in flower-female
#4 is in flower- the chosen male
#6 is in flower-female
#7,#9,#10 have all been culled out
#2,#3,#8 are all still in veg

I chose #4 as my male because it has a good growth pattern, lots of sacs (the most) and by rubbing the stalk and smelling, as it was a lot more pungent than the other two. All three smelled vastly different, so it was hard not to keep them all. One was really spicy, kind of like nut-meg; the other had a band-aide smell; and #4 was somewhere in the middle but with a very sweet "after smell", I cant explain it any better than that as it really lingered in my nose (also it was kind of addicting as I couldn't stop smelling it). I know the stalk method isn't a proven scientific method so it was the last deciding factor that I considered. Any other males will be discarded as slow bloomers.

The clones aren't showing sex still........but many are rooting; I have been culling those along with the culled donor plants.
The average height is 22" with only an inch +/- difference between them all, very uniform in height. Some are very heavily branched, others have a more sparse lateral branching. I expected that as the breeder mentioned 2 dominant phenotypes, and occasionally one somewhere in the middle. All of them from a short distance smell like tomato plants on steroid's and have since they were a week or two old, I hope they stink more and more, lol.

So far a very easy plant to grow and to clone; they are letting me enjoy growing again as the last ones were murder to me. Afte I see which females are in my opinion the best I intend on taking too many clones so I can donate some mother plants to the clinic that supplied me with the SSHaze and Grape Ape clones when I first got my card, as a kind of thank you gesture; remember "if you give a man an eighth he can be medicated for a day, give a man some killer genetics and he can be medicated for years." Isnt that in the bible somewhere? well....it should be. lol

Pics this evening