Omega Garden's Volksgarden rotary garden

[maxximus]

Originally Posted by Be IRIE

I am not knocking ya, just figured that you would get a lot more. I have seen your grows and just love that thing and would love to have one but the GF would kill me. I am allowed six plants per patient (guess I need 20 patients) She pretty much keeps me in line with our laws here and if I brought that home, I would be sleeping in it on the front porch.... I have no doubt that you will get that dialed in and that gr. per watt will increase dramatically.

No offense taken. Plant number limits are imho not the best way to achieve the kind of limits the rules are supposed to address. What if you had 6 monster plants and 20 x 1,000 watt lamps for them? I don't think these rules were well thought out. It would make much more sense to me to limit the wattage if your dealing with indoor growing anyway.

So far the veg time for these grows has only been a few days, though if I was limiting the numbers I would grow the veg longer and spread the growth out. Maybe someone will try that. 6 plants would pushing the low side for sure but it would be an interesting experiment.

Cheers,
Maxx

[maxximus]

Originally Posted by Cherma

Good information finally on one of these. I like the fact that it produces many i.e... 60 plants. However, this would not allow most Medical Cannabis patients and Caregivers in certain States the full oportunity to utilize this. Our limits here are 7 per person 3 in flower 4 in veg, and limiting a Caregiver to only 1 patient to grow for. Hopefully soon we will finalize at least the increase in plants alowwed to 12 and able to cargive for 5 patients. This would allow perfect use of this. I look forward to seeing more of your grows here.

Hi Cherma,

"limiting a Caregiver to only 1 patient to grow for." Hardy seems compassionate imho. Even the potential new regs, though moving in the right direction still seems like an unnecessary restriction to put caregivers under.

Cheers,
Maxx

[McBudz]

This is going to be a journal to watch. I'm grateful to see you share this with us.

[Frog]

Glad you bumped it while I was here to catch it.

always wanted a warehouse full of these rigs

[maxximus]

Thanks McBudz, glad to be here.

Hey *********, happy to have you along.

Oh ya, the warehouse thing full on meds would be the coolest looking thing in the world. The Volksgardens are mounted on drawer slides and fastened to pallet racking, so totally doable. Pics are from the Omega Garden site.





Cheers Maxx

[Be IRIE]

Originally Posted by maxximus

No offense taken. Plant number limits are imho not the best way to achieve the kind of limits the rules are supposed to address. What if you had 6 monster plants and 20 x 1,000 watt lamps for them? I don't think these rules were well thought out. It would make much more sense to me to limit the wattage if your dealing with indoor growing anyway.

So far the veg time for these grows has only been a few days, though if I was limiting the numbers I would grow the veg longer and spread the growth out. Maybe someone will try that. 6 plants would pushing the low side for sure but it would be an interesting experiment.

Cheers,
Maxx

Shit, six would be a waste of time in that thing... and our law is 3 in veg and 3 in flower and for the icing on the cake, only 2 z's of usable meds.... I am going to dream about that wheel of meds you have going there...

[nbk380]

i'm already 100% past my limit on ladiez and yieldz. 60 vs my current is the same plus it looks like the funnest way to grow ever. i wonder if you speed it up will the centrifugal force make the buds denser. V8 maybe! my closet will get a precise measuring when ladiez get up. does it stay spinning 24/7 and the lights run 12/12, if so custom tent option maybe? whats something like that costin these days?

i'm in with binoculars on!!! cool grow +rep

[maxximus]

Originally Posted by nbk380

i'm already 100% past my limit on ladiez and yieldz. 60 vs my current is the same plus it looks like the funnest way to grow ever. i wonder if you speed it up will the centrifugal force make the buds denser. V8 maybe! my closet will get a precise measuring when ladiez get up. does it stay spinning 24/7 and the lights run 12/12, if so custom tent option maybe? whats something like that costin these days?

i'm in with binoculars on!!! cool grow +rep

Howdy nbk380,

If you have the right strain in it the slow rotation makes the buds denser, as I described earlier.
"However - the same strain in the volksgarden - perfect. It went from fluffy hazy in the DWC to OG Kush like density in the wheel. same exact plant. Hard nugs that were exactly what I wanted. Let's put it this way the collective I took it to (and it is the best collective in LA, ie the world) took one look at it and put it on it's top shelf because it was so frosty."

I have no idea what a faster rotation would do.

Yes it never stops rotating, and it takes about 45 minutes to make a full turn.

Cost 2K and you add the light. I am running with a 600 watt.

It is in a grow tent. It's called the Darkroom. I got the 5x5 for 330$. It works great. The volks fits in there very easily with some room to spare. The rest of the equipment is an extractor fan with a carbon filter and the ducting connected to the volksgarden light is to keep it cool. The grow tent works well because it is very easy to set up and take down and all the ventilation holes are already cut into it. I cant think of any other styles of growing that can fit into a 5x5 that can yield 1-3 pounds using a 600hps. That's what makes the volks so awesome.

Cheers,
Maxx

[maxximus]

Originally Posted by Be IRIE

Shit, six would be a waste of time in that thing... and our law is 3 in veg and 3 in flower and for the icing on the cake, only 2 z's of usable meds.... I am going to dream about that wheel of meds you have going there...

Wow that is very restrictive regs. 2 oz's....that sucks

[BubbaKush]

Hmmmmm? the wheel of meds...mmmmmmmm

[maxximus]

OK here we go for round #3


I am running 54 hogsbreath (Hindu Kush x Afghani landrace), 8 Mazar
(Afghani x Skunk #1) and two Blackberry. These clones are taken
from mothers that were made from clones purchased at the local
dispenseries. (Isn't Cali grrrrreat?!)

The blackberry and Mazar are for my personal headstash and I am
running the Mazar next. I like to have a preview of what I am
going to be dealing with. for example in my last blackberry run I
put one Hogsbreath in to see the growth pattern etc. I learned how
fast and tall it grows. So I estimated that 6 days veg would be
just right and so far it looks like I was correct. I also learned
that it was more nute sensitive than the Blackberry Kush.

For the first 6 days I used CNS 17 veg formula and I ran CO2 on for
one hour and off for one hour for 24 hours. (I am a firm believer
in 24 hour veg light, why waste time?) I am using a 25 gallon res
and I fill it with 20 gallons of tap water. I used 330 mls of CNS
for veg.

On day one of flower I switched the lights to 12/12 and changed the
nutrient solution to CNS 17 bloom. I used 380 mls. I have a ppm
and ph meter but I prefer to fly blind, after a week or two it's
easy to estimate how much food they need. Just look at the plants,
they'll tell you what they want.

I also added one packet of Bud Blood. This speeds up the finish
time by about 5 to 7 days.

After 7 days of bloom I turn on the 400 watt that I have also
placed in the cool tube. Now there are 1000 watts of light going
in there. I waited for the first week because I didn't want to
encourage too much stretching. But just as the first signs of
flowers appear - I boost the light.

(btw in order to run that much light in a tent I have to have the
ac directly ducted in almost all the time (except when the CO2 is
on. duh.))

As I enter the second week I can see that the Hogsbreath grows a
little faster than the Mazar. I can veg the mazar for 7 days on
the next run. The hogsbreath is very tall now, I think it will
stop growing just short of the burn zone. I am glad I switched to
12/12 when I did, though at the time I thought it was a little
premature.

I am running the mazar next time out because all the reports I have
read claim it is a very big yielder. While Hogsbreath is supposed
to be big too, I don't believe it is as big and as dense. I am
going for weight here.





















Cheers,
Maxx

[pan4gold49]

Thats cool.

It kind of like a ebb&flow with a 45 min cycle.

Pan4

[maxximus]

Originally Posted by pan4gold49

Thats cool.

It kind of like a ebb&flow with a 45 min cycle.

Pan4

Hi Pan4,

That is correct though you don't constantly water, but just for 1 or 2 cycles per day and only to a depth of 1/4 in up the rooting medium, and you would separate the watering cycles if you indeed needed 2 cycles.

Cheers,
Maxx

[BubbaKush]

beautiful....i am intrigued with this grow...found a guy on craigslist with one new in a box for 1200... i am definatly going to get one when i can utilize it properly. i dont have a dedicated spot to put one....yet. you say its in a 5x5 hut, how much room do you have to work with and what are the temps like.....

[McBudz]

I give this thread 5 stars for such a cool setup. And + plus reps