Unknown Strains – First Closet Grow: April to July

[fuuji0019]

08/06/09:
Day #20

Janes photos:

Im really worried - Going to need to flush it fully, but dont know what steps to take afterwards??

[fuuji0019]

08/06/09:
Day #21 - Just woke up and janes gotten alot worse as i didnt flush yesterday.

Its nice to see that older memebers get alot more comments, rather than the members in need of assistance who have almost all correct information showed. Just a thought

Time to save my plants.

[weedtastic]

hi m8 flushem m8 if you using 3 gallon pots take each pot outside and flush them with 9 gallons of water each and don t nute em for a few weeks also lower your nutes now this is only im my opinion and i also think you were over watering do you boil your water then leave it 24 hours to dispell chlorine before watering coz i find this helps alot as the water is then at room temp and pure....hope this helps ps ive just posted after your latest post on my thread

[LiveTour]

Hey Fuuj, you really need to find out what the pH is sitting at? It could be due to nute lock! Good Luck!

[MJ-SwEeTbUdZ]

Hey there dude,

looks amazing but i totally know wot ur saying about everyone claiming to have "BLUEBERRY"lol its just nice when you do get it. I hope yours turns out to be!! im on my way to hydro shop soon to purchase my lights built a good size grow box for up 2 6 plants im hoping to take pics soon just got seeds germin!!

toke on bro

[Ms.Fox]

Originally Posted by fuuji0019

Its nice to see that older memebers get alot more comments, rather than the members in need of assistance who have almost all correct information showed. Just a thought

That really isn't true. I do my best to get everyone's questions answered. I really try hard to especially help new growers. If you aren't getting answers to your questions in your journal, please feel free to post another thread in the appropriate area or pm me. ;-)

Yes, what's your ph? What's your temps? Looks like a ph/temp problem to me.

[vincent308]

good job!

[fuuji0019]

Hey,
Ms.Fox - I didnt mean to sound quite how it did, and i realise not all people read/follow journals day by day, so thanks for your response.

Temps seem fine: 26c
PH Levels is one thing i cant check, as i dont have a tester kit. Its most likely the problem though, as the nute build-up has been too much for her.

I flushed Jane with about 7L of luke-warm water. Best i could do. Also pruned - but the whole plant is almost taken over, all the small leaves near the secondary colas, everywhere.

I hope she recovers, but i have nothing here to add to the soil, other than my already purchased nutes (did i mention its a 'poor mans grow'?!) so im not sure what todo next. I cant tell but honestly looks likes she just getting worse.

Any ideas on how to either; check my PH with very minimal household items / help reset the PH of the soil?

Thanks for all your comments, i dont want to post anymore photos just yet, but let me just say shes alot worse then yesterday. :/

[Ms.Fox]

Ok, well you did the right thing and flushed. I would give nothing but distilled water or tap water that has sat out overnight until she starts to perk up. No more nutes until you get an adequate ph tester, which you can get at a hydro store or even online. Even the cheap drop ph tester would be better than nothing. ;-) Also a bottle of ph up and down will be needed. Your harvest time is likely going to be pushed back due to these issues, but don't worry about that now.

[Lil Neutrino]

Hey there fuuji, it can be frustrating when you don't get responses especially when you're having an issue...try posting this in the pests and problems forum, there are a TON of journals to keep up with. I'm having a small problem myself right now but after 2-3 days it hasn't really spread or anything but I'd like to figure it out in case it does.

Cannabis Plant and Pest Problem Solver - Pictorial

According to that thread it LOOKS like a calcium or manganese deficiency, read the descriptions of those two and see which one fits better. Both are immobile nutrients but calcium is a macronutrient and manganese is a micronutrient. From what I understand manganese deficiencies are much rarer than calcium. As Ms. Fox mentioned this could be a lockout due to pH imbalance...I use the liquid pH tester on my run-off water, it gets me in the ballpark but not an exact reading like one would get with a digital meter. Mine was $6 and let me know I had a high pH level in my soil for a few days after transplanting, now it reads 7 after every watering with distilled water. I usually add some soil to the vial to mix in with it just to be sure.

[Lil Neutrino]

fuuji, how is the plant? Did you pick up a pH test kit yet? Sounded like she was deteriorating pretty rapidly from your last few posts, curious if she's still kicking or what.

[fuuji0019]

10/06/09:
Day #23 - Hi Lil Neutrino, thanks for your concern. I just woke up again, and yup, shes gotten worse... how sensitive was she to the nutes?!!
Ive got quite a bit todo today for once, but going to pick up a tester later today hopefully.

I hope its not to late. Janes buds were coming along nicely, now i feel im past the point of no return for her :(

New pictures later

[weedtastic]

hi did you flush your soil ? if you have no ph up/down is there any point in buying ph meter? if it was me and my poormans grow and i had soil left i would repot them and just water them that is the last thing id do normally but with no money to throw at them flush or repot seems to be only option to me ?????

[Be IRIE]

Actually no matter if you have PH up or down it is still good to know your ph.. There are other ways to adjust your PH.. At the least it will tell you if it is the PH or not..
My opinion is that you are locking out mag and or cal. You need to flush it with distilled water, then you can take your PH readings.. Ease up with the nutes until you get it figured out. If you are using chems they can drop the ph of your water a point or so and add that to an acidic soil and you have lock out....

[fuuji0019]

10/06/09:
Day #22 – Hey, later turned into later later – Got some nice bud in. Anyway, Janes worse, but i pruned to the two top leaves off but shes starting to look more and more bare. Flushed yesterday but might flush again tomorrow.

I have an exam tomorrow morning - then im free!

On the other hand Marys doing well, responding well to the flush i also did yesterday. Stunted growth on both i think, but bud sites have been progressing.
Mary also smells sweet, stinks actualy, and Jane doesnt smell to good – i think due to it being ‘ill’.

No water gived today.
Temps: 25-27c

weedtastic

Thanks for your idea ; thats a possibilty, as i have about a pot or two’s soil left, but surely while trying to get the soil off the roots, i could potentialy damage it?

Be IRE

I didnt get around to buying one today, but its on my list tomorrow.
I still cant decide on what specific nute problem it is, but defintaly just using normal water from now on.

Pics:

Jane:

Mary!: ( I swapped them around )