Papay/Jungle Wreck and "living dead"

[siscokid]

Hey Perico! thanks for dropping in man. O.K. so that will be it then if I get more than 1 female I will stick it in veg as mother and smoke the rest cuzz I am getting bumbed out, no smoke now for like 4 months.

[Pericodaking]

^ sounds like a plan bro! stick her back in veg and make her a bonsai mom, u'll give urself enough clones for a canna-forrest!

[siscokid]

Originally Posted by Pericodaking

^ sounds like a plan bro! stick her back in veg and make her a bonsai mom, u'll give urself enough clones for a canna-forrest!

Man Perico, that would be nice. Hey today I am celebrating two birthdays and I also took the humidity cups off of my other two Jungle Wreck, Ladies and gentle men I would like to introduce to you:


Cheetah


Jessica


Alicia

[SouthernOnt]

definately put a one of those ladies outside just in a new spot away from them dirty old bugs

[Lil Neutrino]

Originally Posted by siscokid

I forgot to mension that my cheap ph meter says my ph is a little over 7, anyone know how much apple cider vinegar to use or any other thoughts on this?

I am not sure but be careful as you probably recall what happened with the pH of my distilled water after adding a quite small amount of concentrated lime juice! I would take a gallon of water of known pH and add a teaspoon of vinegar and test the pH. If it barely phased the original pH then add some more but in known increments. Once you figure out how much you need to add to a gallon of water you can extrapolate it to larger volumes if need be.

One thing to note that I found out and mentioned in my journal...these household ingredient pH adjusters are good for quick fixes but do nothing to actually buffer the pH of the soil. Once the moisture is used up the soil goes right back to its original pH. Hence why Ms. Fox suggested I go out and get some pH Up/Down from the hydro store, NOT the stuff used in aquariums and pools as they will cause sodium build-up over time which will burn your roots and cause other problems. I haven't purchased any yet as I forgot to look for it last time I went but I'm ok with a 6.8pH of my run-off water. Should be a little lower but they're doing fine as it is.

When I saw the pic of that long stalk with no branches or leaves I had to literally laugh out loud, it was worth a shot though! We all know how hard it is to kill a weed, those of us who have had lawns anyway for sure lol. Everything else is looking pretty good, I'll be checking in on this from time to time

[Lil Neutrino]

Oh, one other thing...I was gonna send you a PM as I didn't want to state it publicly but the server said you have chosen not to receive PM's or are unable to. Call me paranoid but you might want to flag the pic on the first page via the photo gallery to have it erased. Why? Well, if your fingerprints are on file with the FBI/law enforcement those are pretty good pics to run a pattern search with (yes, I said I was paranoid ) and you could be in for some issues. Better safe than sorry! Just take the photo in to Paint or something and black out your fingerprints and repost it, you can see where I did that in one of my pics (page 5 or 6, where I was posting pics of the roots during transplant).

Just looking out for a fellow unnecessarily persecuted smoker :) Even if you do have a MMJ permit it still doesn't hurt to stay as discreet as possible...

[siscokid]

Thanks Lil, for the info and the heads up, I will do that man thanks again for the help.

[siscokid]

Hey Troop, I forgot to mention that I stuck a Sunbeam "cool mist" humidifier in today, it dropped my temp. down by 10F and of course raised my humidity from 20% to 50%. I started it in the veg. room hoping that it would raise the humidity in both chambers since veg. blows into flower and out into attic but the flower room stayed at 20%? So I changed it to the top since those plants are older and soon going back into veg. I am wondering if I should just stick em all together in one room since I am not going to flower papaya like I first intended. I guess I can go another couple of months without smoke. I need to make up my mind... I know, what do you all think? I think maybe just start it tomorrow and stop wasting time. Will I be doing the papaya plants good or harm by that? Ughh!

[Lil Neutrino]

Sorry I can't really help with your questions but depending on how the air is ventilated from the veg portion to the flower it is possible that the majority of the humid air from the veg portion is getting blown out in to the attic before it has a chance to circulate through the flower chamber to where your hygrometer is.

As long as you can provide proper air circulation to prevent O2 from being trapped in the undergrowth and proper lighting I see no reason you can't put them all together...assuming they won't be crowded but that goes back to proper circulation and lighting. Might wait for a few other more experienced growers to chime in before you take my advice :)

[siscokid]

Thanks for the response Lil N, The exhaust in the lower chamber in the back left corner as you can see in the pic above, the black tube is the in-line fan and it sticks out about a foot or more, so I bent it down a little so it doesn't blow the air straight into the ceiling but toward the front of the chamber to give it a little circulation. In the flower chamber I installed the exhaust in the back right corner to help with circulation. I have 9 square feet of floor space so I think 6 2.5 gallon buckets fit OK not too crowded. I have good flow of air going in and out, lighting is not an issue really because I can always put more cfl's in.
This is a pic of the veg. room with the black tube. I need to take a recent pic. it is now different.


this is the flower room withe the exhaust on right older pic also. this one doesn't show it pointing to front.


the exhaust in flower room going into attic.

[SouthernOnt]

I'd say put it and the little ones in 12/12 with papaya cull the males and put a female into veg and flower the other females

[siscokid]

Originally Posted by SouthernOnt

I'd say put it and the little ones in 12/12 with papaya cull the males and put a female into veg and flower the other females

Thats what I ended up doing, update on living dead, its dead, for sure now. It just didn't do anything but dry out.
I am having temp problems now so I am considering removing a couple of daylight bubls tomorrow. I am currently using 4 23 watt 6500k and 6 43 watt 2700k
I also found out that my mix is too heavy, thank to tortured soul and CharlieMopps, for the info ( What are common mistakes made by first time growers).
I am taking em out for watering in the morning so I figure I will make a new mix for em and change em over. I need to hit the hardware store for perlite and sand early, I just hope that I don't screw up the root system or shock em to death.

[Pericodaking]

Halfway thru my first grow was about the last time I worried about the pH of my soil. I've never checked it again since! now the pH in a Hydro system, is a different story. but you're doing a great job , keep it up , sorry to hear the living dead didnt' make it, but that papaya is a great plant bro, grows insanely fast as well , have fun with it!

[SouthernOnt]

yeah your ph meter is your bible in hydro your SOL without one

[Pericodaking]

^absolutely, u can get by without an ec or ppm but your pH meter is the be all and end all for a hydro grow