Chameleon's First Soil Grow 2 CHRONIC

[Chameleon1]

So as of now it is looking as if the good clone is dieing :( !!!!!

[musikgenman]

Thats unfortunate bro, I wish i could help ya out.
Have the clones been rooted before you got them? What was your procedure for the clones. Maybe an expert might have some help after they know that information.
My only advice thus far would be lights as close as possible, and mess with the plants as little as possible, and if you can get some sort of breeze going through the plants do that, via wind or fan.
I would have to say, and im no expert, that you could still get the tops off of the plants you have. Maybe someone else will have better advice. Until then....


Musik \\\vVv///

[Chameleon1]

I have been getting my clones from a friend/fellow grower. I'm not exactly sure what method they use to do it but I have been getting them in a normal cup with holes in the bottom and they haven't been rooted yet. I have a fan in there blowing on all of them. I don't think I'm gonna do any topping. I built a new box that I'm gonna use for vegging with 4 42w CFLS in it. So I will be taking clones from them b4 they go into flower. I'll post some pictures tomorrow. This is day 2 of 18/6.... Hopefully they like it.

[LiveTour]

Props for the effort you're putting into your first grow bro!!!! Man if heard great things about T-5's. Now I do have a suggestion. Its very important to monitor your pH level, over the years I've learned this. For example, I just grab my water at a local store like wal-mart. The Distilled water they sale ranges in pH levels. I've found some gallons as high as 9 and as low as 8. You want your MJ's water at 6 maybe a few tenths higher no more than 6.5. This creates a nice balanced inviroment which promotes great root growth!! If you have access to a local hydro shop you'll want to grab a pH kit. I've also invested in a digi pH reader for the most accurate results, but the test strips will sufice.
You see how those main stems are really "purple"? Thats another sign that your pH is off and my guess is too high. Thats probably why your clones had a tough time. Good luck and I'll keep watching!!

[LoveYourLife]

What's up bro? I actually had this journal bookmarked, I guess the name didn't ring a bell. Good luck on your grow, I'd offer advice but I'm just about in the same spot you are. Anyone in the IE know where I can get some meds? Nobody is answering their phone, I guess it is kinda late lol...

[Chameleon1]

DeadTour = I have a ph test kit as well as a some ph-up and ph-down. I have been testing the water before I water. I have had them at about 6.0 the whole time. I'm using the liquid test kit. I noticed the purple stems and I haven't really figured out what the deal is on that. You think it is PH? Could it be my soil's ph and if you think it is how do I check that?

Loveyourlife = Thanks for stopping by man! I'm glad to see I have a few followers at least checking me out every once in awhile Ya Id like some meds right now but i'm so broke. My roomie has some but I don't like to smoke his stash cause I tend to get pissed when he does it to me ha ha!

[Chameleon1]

So this little project has turned into an infatuation . I find myslef scouring this website constantly for new ideas and to see everyone elses grows. I have a vast amount of subscriptions now and I'm looking forward to everyones progress as well as my own.

Well I had some 2x2's and some OSB plywood and some screws so I decided to build my self a little veg chamber so when I put these other plants into flower I can start another batch so I can hopefully keep my supplies intact . The dimensions are 1'8"x1'8"x2'6". I have some old computer fans i'm gonna throw in there, there are 2 80mm and 1 120mm I'm gonna wire the two 80s onto a cellphone charger and the 120 onto a seperate charger. Two intake one exhaust. For lighting I'm gonna get 3 y adapters for 4 slots and I'm gonna fill em with 42w CFLs. Should be enough right? Here are some pictures of the unfinished product. I've gotta head over to Home Depot next week to pick up the lights and my old man has to bring me the rotozip to cut the holes for the fans







I checked on the plants this morning and they look so much healthier now. The clone that I knocked over is dead i'm almost positive. I gave it some ph'd tap water I let sit out for a day and a half as well as some spray from my foilar mix. I sprayed all the plants with my foilar mix as well. The other plants don't need water so i'm gonna let them ride for a day or so.

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Such a shame I am so sad :(

[BigSmokie]

If I was you I would get rid of the tinfoil and just paint the inside of your grow area white... tinfoil has hot spots that can burn your plants. Just my 2 cents

[musikgenman]

Unfortunate about the clones, you get em for free right?

Building a box is a great idea. But the dimensions you gave for the box indicates to me that your only gonna flower 1 maybe 2 at a time. I'm a little worried about the hieght of the box, it seems that one of your plants is almost as tall. And that is not considering the LST training I see you've put into it. so with that in mind. I just wanna make sure you built that to those dimensions for 1 plant.

The next clones you get, get a clear plastic pop bottle, clean it out, cut off the top and use it as a humidifying dome. Put that sucker right over the cup.(if it doesn't fit get something clear that does) From what i've read the more humidity, like 90%, for the clones the higher the chance for survival since they can take moisture in through the roots and leaves, and if they have no roots then they take all the moisture in from the leaves. Room Air is usually pretty dry. Sorry that i didn't mention this earlier, when i looked at the pics I wasn't even thinking humidity for the clones, i was looking at your bigger plants. Sorry.

Hope this helps in the future.

Musik \\\vVv///

[Chameleon1]

Big Smokie = I am planning that I just threw that in there to see what it looked like. I have a friend over at Sherwin Williams that can hook me up with some free paint

Musik = Ya so so sad... but I have been getting them for free . I was going to use the box as a veg room not a flowering room. I want the bigger aerated space for the flowering plants so they can get as big as possible and hopefully no mold. I figure I can veg 4 plants in it, hopefully lol. Thanks for the advice on the clones. I will do that when I pull the cones off of my 2 big plants before they go into flower in the next week or 2.

Any other comments????

[musikgenman]

If that is for vegging, yeah 4 maybe 6 would fit in there. I musta misread that one.
Yeah definately get something to keep in the humidity for the little guys, looks like your growing on a budget thats why I mention the pop bottles otherwise if you can get access to a Humidity Dome specific for clones that works too. Like I said, from what I've read, the more humidity for the clones the better so the leaves can take in what it needs to make roots. I could be wrong, i'm sure an expert will correct me or agree.

Musik \\\vVv///

[LoveYourLife]

Originally Posted by BigSmokie

If I was you I would get rid of the tinfoil and just paint the inside of your grow area white... tinfoil has hot spots that can burn your plants. Just my 2 cents

This is a good tip, although if you're using CFL's the danger is much less. I've read that if you're going to use aluminum foil, you can point the flat, non-shiny side towards the light to further reduce the risk of hotspots.

Originally Posted by musikgenman

If that is for vegging, yeah 4 maybe 6 would fit in there. I musta misread that one.
Yeah definately get something to keep in the humidity for the little guys, looks like your growing on a budget thats why I mention the pop bottles otherwise if you can get access to a Humidity Dome specific for clones that works too. Like I said, from what I've read, the more humidity for the clones the better so the leaves can take in what it needs to make roots. I could be wrong, i'm sure an expert will correct me or agree.

Musik \\\vVv///

I wouldn't call myself an expert but I agree that humidity will drastically increase your odds of survival in most cases with clones. I tried to root the top of the plant I had to cut down, I had it in the little peat moss pellet humidity container thing, but I left it on the window sill and forgot about it while I was repotting my new girls... Poor thing fried, they need to be kept in a pretty stable environment, and looked after /= I feel bad for accidentally killing it but it happens sometimes... Nice box btw, I was thinking of building one before I start flowering just to make sure I have something 100% light free. I don't really trust my makeshift curtains...

[mtnbiker2288]

hey there Chameleon! I'm very, very new to growing but ive done quite a bit of research and just started my first grow, but ive got to say, thats a sweet little setup youve got there. im subscribed... cant wait to follow along for the ride!

good luck!

[Chameleon1]

Music = When I pull clones before I go into flower i'm gonna take six and put em in that new veg box, then i'm gonna throw 3 halved 2 liter bottles in there over em

LYL = Thanks for the info on the CFL's... I already talked to a friend and he has some white paint for me I'm gonna get it on sunday Hopefully this 2 liter bottle thing works out because I would love to see 6 of these flower Especially for the yield that this strain is known for!!! WOOP WOOP ha ha

Mtnbiker = Sweet nice to see you on 420mag! Thanks for the compliment there are some freakin awesome grows out there just surf around on the journals and you will see

Today I checked on my plants and they look aweomse! I did some foilar feeding on the bigger ones and the clones I got. By the way the one clone that got knocked over is looking better the stem is straightening up and is very green again. Maybe she is saved?!?!?! That would be so f-ing amazing!

I'll throw some pics up in the next day or so!

[Ms.Fox]

The next time you clone, make sure you trim the leaves up. I cut my leaves in half. This way the plant doesn't have to work so hard to send nutrients to the whole leaves. They perk up much faster this way. ;-)