Indoor Grow July 2009 : AustralianQ1 CaliGDP CaliSSH CaliOrange DutchWidowSkunk

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Individual pictures Day 28

WidowSkunk


Closeup pics of the WidowSkunk twins both showing male sex


GDP


CASSH


Cali Orange Bud


Q1

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Day 30

Was bound to happen, but the 3 WidowSkunk plants I have growing have all turned out to be Male! Not the ideal situation, but I have taken the tips of each and done a quick smoke to see which 1 is the strongest as at 29 days. I will be using the pollen to cross into the CaliOrange as it is a very Sativa dominant pheno, and it may turn out to be a very interesting hybrid. The plants are outside and still growing, just not in the grow room. Have replaced the single WS with a Bubblegum clone so it's all good!!

Now lets just hope the CaliOrange is female..................

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Originally Posted by DGMGH

Day 30

Was bound to happen, but the 3 WidowSkunk plants I have growing have all turned out to be Male! Not the ideal situation, but I have taken the tips of each and done a quick smoke to see which 1 is the strongest as at 29 days. I will be using the pollen to cross into the CaliOrange as it is a very Sativa dominant pheno, and it may turn out to be a very interesting hybrid. The plants are outside and still growing, just not in the grow room. Have replaced the single WS with a Bubblegum clone so it's all good!!

Now lets just hope the CaliOrange is female..................

Hey DGMGH!

I'm onboard for this show!

Thanks for the tip on sampling the males in order to select the best one. That will come in handy in the future.

Also................

"The WidowSkunk I have as a single plant but I also have 2 in the 1 pot to encourage a male as I like to breed and cross."

So you've noted that having more than one plant in the same container encourages males? That would also come in very handy for my future grows.

regards,

SS

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SS,

As a general rule, I try to plant 2 in 1 pot, as it should encourage a male and female as both plants rootballs and feremones are together. This time it didnt work but out of the last say 10 times I have done this, it has, so I will keep doing it to a variety that I would like to get pollen from and then cross as part of the breeding programme.

Smoking the male tips is a good indicator of potency, but I also like to check other signs such as general growth and vigour, nutrient uptake, speed of the growth, etc. So these have to be taken into account as well for the direction you are looking to get to with the breeding.

I have bred into a strain a characteristic from a male that didnt show great potency, but had really great vigour and colour, so it just depends again on what you are looking to utilise.

[greenisland]

Theres a really great book out there called "the Cannabis Breeders Bible" you can get it on amazon or any other big book store. Borders has it, but Barnes and Noble wont (because they dont carry anything about MJ)
Really a great book to check out. It gets a little technical at times but if you get through it you wi;ll be rewarded with some excellent knowledge. Looking great DGMGH!!!

[CanbisMxmus]

GreenIsland,

You're half right, the breederes bible rocks, tons of great info, Barnes&Noble does sell mj books though, that's where I got mine.

DGMGH,

The seedlings are looking fantastic! They love that light, my seeds were right there with yours, but mine are outdoors, so they are not developing as quickly. One thing the breeders bible mentions about seedling sex, is that environmental stress tends to produce more males. I've topped seedlings before they showed sex, and 4 out of 5 turned into males, not the desired affect by any means. Iratic photo period, and large temperature swings are also significant stress factors. Not that you are, or have done, any of the forementioned, just noteable info. Things are looking great, I'll excited to see the flowering cycle! Keep up the good work.

[greenisland]

hmmm, the three Barnes and Noble stores we have here dont have any MJ books, and when asked about it they said they dont carry them. It could have something to do with the individual owners of the stores, but the three around me dont carry them. Its sad but Im pretty sure I remember them saying that those books had like a ten times more likelyhood of being stolen,... and so they dont carry them at all because they only lost money on them (MJ books) as apposed to making money. And I could totally see that too. Thats awesome you still have MJ books at your barnes and Nobles, here its just not available.

[CanbisMxmus]

I see, unfortunate, luckily we have the internet eh? Anything you want, anytime, amazing.

[greenisland]

yup, good ol' internet. Its everyones friend! :)

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Closeup of early sexing Day 31

Cali Grand Daddy Purple



Cali Super Sliver Haze



By the looks of it, these 2 may be male, but it is still to early to be truly sure.

[CanbisMxmus]

Looks to me you may be right! That might explain the extra vigorous growth, cross your fingers and hope for ladies!!! Worst case scenario: you have a variety of pollen for breeding. Good thing you have your clone! At least she's guaranteed.

[CanbisMxmus]

I was thinking, you're veging under hps right? More red light produces more males, as does longer light hours, and heat. As far as I can figure, if it's cool, short hours, and bluer light, than the seeds think(?) it's spring, so they are more likely to be female. On the other hand, red light, long hours, heat, may have the plant think summer, meaning it needs to produce males to pollinate the females that started in the spring? Just a thought.

[PHATBLUNT420]

^^ makes sense

and it does look like the other 2 are male too
you might want to veg under a conversion bulb next time

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Thanks for the heads up everyone. As a general rule, I just grow the Q1 and as it is feminised I ususually do not see anything other than tiny male flowers that I can keep or simply knock off. Even then, the ones I leave on the Q1 may not even mature.

Funnily enough, when I had my last grow indoors, I had the Q1, B52 and Bubblegum growing at the same time, same conditions lights, etc. That grow I got all female plants, except for the 2 Bgum plants I had in 1 pot, spoke about this previously.

I guess, and this is just a guess at best, it was bound to happen that I would get a few males sooner or later!! LOL

Have great news though on the other CASSH and GDP plants I have growing in there. They are starting to show female sexing!! The Q1 is starting to show the usual sexing (female) and the Bubblegum clone I have is female.

So out of the 11 plants I had to start with, the 3 WS are definetly male, all outside, the GDP and the CASSH are starting to show, but I am going to keep them going a bit longer in the grow room, as they are showing the same characteristics as the Q1 does, so it may be a bit too early to send them outside.

Nothing yet as far as sexing goes with the CaliOrange?? Hoping hard she is female, as I intend on breeding in the WS. If the GDP stays male, I will cross into the Q1, for the colour and growth mainly, and the CASSH into the Bubblegum.

Also, have some VenturaGold to go into the room within the next week ,so I will still have my plant number up around 10, with the others (male plants) outside to be used for pollen collection.

Again, thanks everyone for the support and comments.

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Room reshuffle DAY 33

Have moved all the male plants outside, so I have been able to reshuffle all the plants now into their positions for the rest of the grow. Am including pictures of the Boys outside and the Girls indoors.