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    Re: Undercurrent DWC

    Hey Fellas!! Sorry to jump off topic w/ the plasma but here's a bit of info on the grow i'll be watching....
    This is a stock photo of the plasma light that will be used with the UC at the grow shop.
    I'm not sure of the specs or anything but you can find all the info on it and two other plasma lights this company makes online.
    Do a Google search of Chameleon Grow Systems and it will pop up.
    They also have a plasma + led w/ a $6300 price tag!!

    I put my hand under the light at the shop and these things run super hot!! The light is so bright you cant even really look at it. It's like looking into the Sun or an welders spark.




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    Re: Undercurrent DWC

    Thanks for posting the pics Bandit! Very interesting stuff. I'll be packing a bowl tonight for the read on these plasma lights. Not that I could afford any of it but really interesting

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    $6300 USD Wow! These guys just think growers are loaded down with money. I will also be reading about the Chameleon tonight brother

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    Re: Undercurrent DWC

    Got to love those set ups. Years ago there was a grower named Krusty who grew trees in bubblers (DWC). He used a lucas formula for nutrients and had such great results that he would end up with 8 foot tall plants that were 5 feet wide and we are talking 5 to 6 years ago with the old ballasts and light set ups and home made dwc systems.

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    Wow, I have 5 DWC with 8" netpot lids in 5 gallon buckets with drip collars. You can build a DWC multi site system with 2 air lines going to each plant for a hell of a lot less than what these guys are selling this system for. Not only that it is easy as hell to do. Why anyone would pay that much for a DWC makes no sense to me. It's like the concept of bottled water. Selling something built with off the shelf materials you could build a similar system for probably half that price at least and you really do not need recicrculating in DWC anyway and changing with netpot lids is so much easier because you can mix up nutes in 1 bucket and just put the plant in the new clean bucket. That's what I do and it is the easiest setup I know if you want to grow hydro for cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yarddog35 View Post
    Thanks for posting the pics Bandit! Very interesting stuff. I'll be packing a bowl tonight for the read on these plasma lights. Not that I could afford any of it but really interesting
    My pleasure Buddy!!
    I'm always watching these demo grows using crazy gear like this. No way could I afford any of it too but it sure is nice to see and touch a grow using hi end advanced technology w/out opening the wallet. It's even nicer to be able to share what i see with all of you!

    I'm also watching an aquaculture grow where these cats are using live goldfish to feed plants in an ebb & flow system. Sounds crazy but the basil & lettuce growing in the system looks better than the stuff at the store!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Wingman420 View Post
    $6300 USD Wow! These guys just think growers are loaded down with money. I will also be reading about the Chameleon tonight brother
    No doubt Brother!!
    I dont think they realize we growers are usually broke and very stingy with the cash!!

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    Re: Undercurrent DWC

    Hello Growing247. While I am know there is a cheap way to grow DWC the Undercurrent System from Current Culture is worth looking at before you knock it. Sort of similar to saying "I do not like watermelon" while never sampling it.
    This is not your mothers DWC, and is definitely worth looking at in operation. I never liked DWC for many of the reasons you just cited. Just because you are accustomed to what you are doing do not discourage others from leading the way with technological advances. After all if not for the rebel ideas using DWC over the past 25yrs we would not have single bucket bubblers and CFL's for the home enthusiast. This system is for production plain and simple you NEVER change water just top off the res. The pumps are pulling instead of pushing,temps are regulated with chillers, the diffusers are so powerful the nutrient solution is atomized making uptake faster and easier. I have seen people build their own Undercurrent with fantastic results it is the future of production DWC.

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    Re: Undercurrent DWC

    The single bucket method is great, but if your going to run multiple buckets, this is the way to go. This system is not too hard to diy also. The fact that you only have to add your nutes to the one bucket is a huge time saver. But if your going to grow one or two plants, the regular single buckets are fine. Either system will provide explosive growth.

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    Re: Undercurrent DWC

    Quote Originally Posted by NEPharmer View Post
    The single bucket method is great, but if your going to run multiple buckets, this is the way to go. This system is not too hard to diy also. The fact that you only have to add your nutes to the one bucket is a huge time saver. But if your going to grow one or two plants, the regular single buckets are fine. Either system will provide explosive growth.


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    Re: Undercurrent DWC

    Quote Originally Posted by NEPharmer View Post
    The single bucket method is great, but if your going to run multiple buckets, this is the way to go. This system is not too hard to diy also. The fact that you only have to add your nutes to the one bucket is a huge time saver. But if your going to grow one or two plants, the regular single buckets are fine. Either system will provide explosive growth.


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    Re: Undercurrent DWC

    Well put Wingman!!
    The UC is totally a cut above what is availabe as far as DWC.
    The negative pressure circulation is only the beginning. These systems look like DWC meets a hot tub and you get a monster machine!!
    They can be diyed though! It would still be a pricey diy but it's possible to knock off about $1k by diy.
    The modules that hold the plants are the same Ropak food grade containers used by General Hydroponics for the reservoir in the 8 pack Waterfarm system.
    If I diy one I would contact Ropak and go for those containers. Using something like Sterlite or Rubbermaid tubs from Walmart will not hold up with this monster.
    If buckets are used in a diy I would think you would need square buckets for the heavy duty plumbing to fit snug against the bucket. I'm sure Ropak or US Plastic has something but there's also a kitty litter product that comes in a square bucket and it has a similar lid to the UC modules.
    If you dont have a cat you can use all that kitty litter to clean up oil stains in the driveway!

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    Re: Undercurrent DWC

    here is a cool vid i saw on one of these..

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    That's just a flat out, bad-ass system right there!

    I'm sure he'll replace those clear air tubes with black ones before the grow starts

    I can only dream of having something like that but love seeing it in action. It seems that it could be scaled down to as little as a two bucket grow if someone were so inclined. It's interesting how the pump is drawing water from the buckets, then pressure side flows into the res. Dumb statement, it is called undercurrent...still interesting to me haha

    Thanks for posting the vid!

    I don't care what anyone says about this type of system, it's state of the art in DWC. It's not some easy to copy d.i.y. type of system like most DWC's are. This is a whole new ball game, in my humble opinion.

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    Re: Undercurrent DWC

    Hey Wingman...here is a pic of a larger scale undercurrent op. The final yield averaged over 2 lbs per plant!




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    Quote Originally Posted by Hogdady View Post
    Hey Wingman...here is a pic of a larger scale undercurrent op. The final yield averaged over 2 lbs per plant!


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