whats the stongest weed rite now

[TorturedSoul]

Originally Posted by albertgrow123

see the way i see it is,why would you want to smoke 41% thc,you would piss ya pants and feel like you had been raped by tyson!!!!

Never smoked full-dome clear-melt, huh? That'd be about 99.99 fine.

What is this world coming to, lol.

[ntezbngreen]

There are a number of ways to answer such a open ended question. For starters, how precisely do you define strength? If strength is simply the THC content, the infamous G-13 has been documented at a incredible 27.2% THC. Authorities such as Jason King, author of the Cannibible series, claims that Heroauna..a cross of Northern Lights x Hash Plant is even stronger than G-13. His estimates put it at a minimum of 25% but probably stronger. Mako Haze from Kiwiseeds tested at 19.7% in 2005. Contrary to popular belief, it is not only indica based strains producing prodigious THC content. Mako is a 75sativa/25indica strain. Arjans Ultra Haze #2 is another sativa dominant strain with a high THC content. Testing at over 20%, it produces a very strong, fast, trippy high with a balanced body hum.
Whenever analyzing the potency of a strain, it is of paramount importance to remember that gland or trichome production is not always an indicator of the THC content. Some strains can be completely frosted with glandular formations and result in only a killer headache. Three main trichome forms are found on bud, but only the capitate stalked glands contain the desired psychoactive Delta-9 THC cannabinoids. Another variable to consider when quantifying strength is precisely when the herb is harvested. Harvested too soon, glands may have yet to produce the Delta 9 all smokers yearn for. Harvested too late, the Delta 9 can degrade into non psychoactive cannabinoids and produce no effects at all. When judging the quality of bud, THC content is but one of many characteristics that should be evaluated before assigning a grade. Taste, aroma, burning qualities and of course the nature of the high all critical areas from which to judge a strain.

[MDVL]

well what i prefer is something more the lines that will not make me couch happy. but happy none the less..burning qualitys well.. something that doesnt burn to fast but enough for a cpl people to enjoy a good bowl/bong. i enjjoy a sweet taste and for some reason a strong aroma. i am a MMP from mich with card in the mail. but i am a beginner at growing. i had no troubles with my ak-47. but ths strain that was given to me was about 20days old and it so is not a autoflower. with the info provided i wouldnt mind getting into the 18%-25% . but first i need to get my other plant well before i decide if i can do regular strands or if i should just stick to autoflowers....

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[greenisland]

lol, yeah. the whole thc % thing just makes me laugh. Ive seen ppl smoke some of the local blue cheeze and get so high they couldnt function. In fact they were so paranoid that every time they get handed a bowl packed with that stuff they wont even hit it because their to afraid of what might become of them(a paranoid mess!). Its all about preferance. These days I feel like just about everything out there that the reputable bean dealers sell is just fine in the thc department. For me thc% isnt even much of a factor anymore, just about everything out there these days has sufficxient thc content. So for me its all about the type of high, and most important to me, the FLAVOR!! I like super sweet candied strains. Like I said the THC % in strains has been up there for quite some time now and I feel like that should be less of a factor than people like to make it these days. Now thats not to say that will work for everyone though, especially med pot patients, they NEED that super high THC, or CBD CBN content. But for the rest of us, well.... the majority of us wouldnt be able to tell the difference between a 15%thc content and 25% thc content anyways. lol

[DroJo]

Originally Posted by ntezbngreen

There are a number of ways to answer such a open ended question. For starters, how precisely do you define strength? If strength is simply the THC content, the infamous G-13 has been documented at a incredible 27.2% THC. Authorities such as Jason King, author of the Cannibible series, claims that Heroauna..a cross of Northern Lights x Hash Plant is even stronger than G-13. His estimates put it at a minimum of 25% but probably stronger. Mako Haze from Kiwiseeds tested at 19.7% in 2005. Contrary to popular belief, it is not only indica based strains producing prodigious THC content. Mako is a 75sativa/25indica strain. Arjans Ultra Haze #2 is another sativa dominant strain with a high THC content. Testing at over 20%, it produces a very strong, fast, trippy high with a balanced body hum.
Whenever analyzing the potency of a strain, it is of paramount importance to remember that gland or trichome production is not always an indicator of the THC content. Some strains can be completely frosted with glandular formations and result in only a killer headache. Three main trichome forms are found on bud, but only the capitate stalked glands contain the desired psychoactive Delta-9 THC cannabinoids. Another variable to consider when quantifying strength is precisely when the herb is harvested. Harvested too soon, glands may have yet to produce the Delta 9 all smokers yearn for. Harvested too late, the Delta 9 can degrade into non psychoactive cannabinoids and produce no effects at all. When judging the quality of bud, THC content is but one of many characteristics that should be evaluated before assigning a grade. Taste, aroma, burning qualities and of course the nature of the high all critical areas from which to judge a strain.

Originally Posted by mdvl

well since i grow it for myself i just found that the autoflowers worked good for me.. Since the one i am growing now seems to want to go into a death coma..

[TorturedSoul]

Originally Posted by greenisland

lol, yeah. the whole thc % thing just makes me laugh. Ive seen ppl smoke some of the local blue cheeze and get so high they couldnt function. In fact they were so paranoid that every time they get handed a bowl packed with that stuff they wont even hit it because their to afraid of what might become of them(a paranoid mess!). Its all about preferance. These days I feel like just about everything out there that the reputable bean dealers sell is just fine in the thc department. For me thc% isnt even much of a factor anymore, just about everything out there these days has sufficxient thc content. So for me its all about the type of high, and most important to me, the FLAVOR!! I like super sweet candied strains. Like I said the THC % in strains has been up there for quite some time now and I feel like that should be less of a factor than people like to make it these days. Now thats not to say that will work for everyone though, especially med pot patients, they NEED that super high THC, or CBD CBN content. But for the rest of us, well.... the majority of us wouldnt be able to tell the difference between a 15%thc content and 25% thc content anyways. lol

Yup. Raw "measured potency" numbers take a backseat to type of affects which will differ amongst strains and where in the flowering cycle they are harvested.

And you have something with the argument that most strains these days are potent. But there are varying degrees of potent lol.

Still, nobody ever told me that any of my buds were lacking....

[greenisland]

Yes, there are certainly varying degrees of potentcy, even in the new super potent trendy strains these days. Something I wanted to point out though is this. .. While you may only need to take a single hit of some super potent couchlock indicas to get you where you want I am a much bigger fan of finding the tastiest and most desirable high producing plant out there, almost regardless of the THC content (as long as its reasonable, like above 5%, And no Im not suggesting anyone go and smoke some dirty mexican dirt weed either!). Honestly I would take a sweet tasting 10% thc plant over a musky not so flavorfull 20% thc plant anyday. In the end I enjoy smoking and dont mind one bit taking an extra hit here or there! It may take me an extra toke to get me to the point that the 20% plant did in one hit,... but whats one extra hit gonna hurt?, after all for a lot of us this is solely a recreational drug anyways, we smoke because we LIKE it, we ENJOY it. And yes the fewer hits u take the better it is for you in terms of tar, carcinogens etc. But 2 hits of some sweet tasting herb is always better in my book than taking one hit of something you really dont enjoy smoking in the first place. Just take an extrra hit or two and you will be just as stoned as you would have been from smoking the buds of some of the super high THC varieties. But once again for the med patients it probably has less to do with enjoyment and more to do with the end result, and loss of pain, being able to sleep, etc. So for those people the concept may be different, but for me... percentage of THC holds less value that the overall taste and enjoyment of the smoke. Lets start defining different strains not by its THC percentages but on its overall performance in all categories! Thats my suggestion, and two cents. lol. If it was all about the THC we would all be shooting up Bubble hash, right? lol,.... Nice thread though guys! Some great ideas going on here.

[xjackflashx]

Originally Posted by *********

I agree, I hear 22-24% is Top End
and MyTexas Thunder has been OhioStateU lab tested at 20%, on a north Ohio crop
he didn't give me the CBC, CBD or E,L & N numbers and I didn't ask

I think the Texas crop will be a point or so higher (pun intended)

ohh low blow...lol...Go Bucks...but thats cool that you were able to get some strand tested...how did you go about doing that?

[greenisland]

lol, he probably just had a friend that worked at the lab. I have a few friends that work at the lab and agricultural departments here and they hooked me up with lab tests of how much CO2 my plant can absorb. Its like a crazy crazy expensive machine that they use. But on the weekend when noone is around you would be surprised with what you can get away with, you just need an inside guy who knows when people will be there and when they wont. Ive been friends with the hydroponic agriculture department here for some time now and they are a priceless addition to my knowledge of how plants work as well as real world uses and procedures of growing available today. Like I said Im not sure how he (*********) managed but there is a huge group of people that go to college and also smoke pot, and usually they are more than willing to help a friendly smoker with questions or lab tests if at all possible. Remember smokers make up a huge percentage of people, and the majority of us are VERY open minded as to what their willing to do for the cause or just this plant in general. We really dont want to be hiding in the shadows forever so every chance a smoker gets there usually willing to help out. In fact the college campuses are one of the hottest spots for debates and open mindness of any topic, including MJ. Im just glad to see that there are people out there willing to help us smokers out, thats really awesome. HOORAY for Ohio State University!!!!

[greenisland]

and just out of curiousity what do you meen by "death Coma" Mdvl? And my feeling on this is if you can grow a autoflowering strain you should be able to grow a non-autoflowering strain. Unless you just like the Ruderalis hybrids for there high CBD CBN content (Im pretty sure of that last statement but not 100% so plz dont jump down my throat if your reading this thinking "what the hell is he talking about"). Ruderalis varities are quite easy to grow but I think that you would bennefit from the jump to regular strains, for a number of reasons, variety, flavor, type of high, etc. Usually peoplke who use the ruderalis are people who just simply cannot have a plant growing late in the season because of weather, or security reasons. They also have there place cut out for them if your dealing with one of those small growing cabinents with limited space, or you just have a very short distance from the tray to the light and you need a short squat plant for lack of room for one reason or another. Or for instance you need to keep it well below your 5 ft fence in your backyard. My point being is this. The only reason why people usually decide to use lowryder/ruderalis strains is because all the other strains out there simply wont work for their growing environment, Ihave yet to hear of anyone growing lowryder because they like the high/taste of the plant(not saying that its a bad variety, just that it has some ground to make up if your gonna be comparing them with the other non-autoflowering strains out there). I have also never heard of anybody choosing this strain just because its "easy" (well...your the first. lol). Unless however you have problems with keeping your head out of the growroom when the plant is supposed to be sleeping (a common beginner mistake is to not give them the 12 full hours of darkness with no interuption), so if thats your problem then I just suggest you add a green flouro to your room so you can go in there and look at your girls without disturbing their slumber. Anyhow, hope this helps you out with your ruderalis/lowryder decision, and gives you a little more info on how and why the autoflowering strains were introduced in the first place. Either way, if you just prefer the lowryder variety over everything else youve had than disregard all ive written here, cause in the end its all about preferance and what YOU like, after all thats one of the perks of growing your own(you can grow YOUR favorite strain). Good luck man!!

[spike69]

I was told by holland seeds 24% all it goes,I think white widow is up there,depends on high your looking for.


I kind of think its what ever is turning out best for you in your garden thats the best.

[MDVL]

Unless you just like the Ruderalis hybrids for there high CBD CBN content . well i have no done the research on the CBD and CBN content.. i have no security reasons as i am a MMMP card holder. my grow room is approx 10' x 7' so not a whole lot to work with. when i got these strains ethal and ermma ethal was a tad older then ermma. i was told leave them on either 20/4 or 24/0 and all i needed to do is feed them the nutrients that they needed and all was good that is where i got the easy part from did not seem to be alot of work with them..i have not tried the regulat strains as of yet but i do plan to do so.and as per my death comma part well ermma is having some issues. after ethal was harvested ermma began to grow differently then ethal. ermma is more tall and more branches. and i have noticed some spots on ermma that suggests nute burn. and when i ask about the highest thc strain it was just a curious question is all. for something that is extremely high in all contents would be something i know i would not beable to afford anyhow..so as i am dealing with ermma i have to check her leafs daily for my own precussions i want to keep a close eye on her. i have scrumbed down the walls the floor everything hoping that the few leafs i picked off her that had some white spots on her isnt spidermites or gnats she is all i have left until i i figure out what i plan to grow next and if she produces how ethal did i will be ok until next harvest of what ever strain i go with. and also i have visited so many seed sites on here nd elsewhers i a=dont know which is a good one to go with.. any preferences on seedbanks?? and thank you for the feedback i do appreciate them.

[Soniq420]

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[greenisland]

Hmm, well I did a little research and it would seem that I remembered correctly as far as the CBN CBD content.

But anyhow, I would love to see some pics of the spotting on your leafs. I would imagine that it would only take a millisec for me to diagnose the problem. Unless its one of the tougher peky problems, but pests and deficiences and nute burns are my forte, lol. Its the viruses that are hard to diagnose,... and often times are never diagnosed correctly and leave the plant ultimatelly dead. But if you wiped down your walls and such it makes me think its probably isnt a virus. However for your sake I hope its not spider mites either, whereas thats a easy from a diagnoses stand point its a whole other story as far as treatment goes. Spidermites are notoriously hard to get rid of, beleive me ...I know. As far as seed banks go I have used legendsseeds.com for years, and I feal like their a little more reputible than the others simply because they have been in bussiness for some time now, but also because they hybridise their own strains as well. And any company making their own strains gets a thumb up in my book. I do have to say that my last bach didnt have the best germination ratio but the first package never made it to me so they had to resend(which is incredible in and of itself) and when I did get them it seemed like they kinda half assed it because it was a resend. They arent really the fastest either, but I have talked to the owner in person before (A guy who goes by the name "Red") and he seemed like a really cool guy. He even used to reply to all emails sent to the company in person! Hes to busy to do that nowadays but he has people who respond to your emails on his behalf. (even if the response takes them a month, they do respond) Hopefully you will have the same luck I have had with this company. And I say Luck just because there are so many rip offs out there, and quite frankly theres very little anyone can do about it. Thats why its going to continue to be this way for some time. Unless there is some kind of regulations implemented on the trade of seeds, which I dont see happening anytime soon.

lol, anyways, hope this helps. Good luck man, and dont forget to post those pics so we can help you out!