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Old 08-10-2007, 12:40 AM   #16
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Re: Grow challenge

I simply stated no one will accept this "challenge" because it does not have mass appeal. Why grow with one measly CFL when you could do alot better with a just a little more? I'm not even talking about buying huge set-ups, just anything is better than one small wattage CFL. I said not to grow one plant because if it's male then you have to start all over agian. Damn me if I try to convince people to stay away from junking a months worth of work. Fact is most people are not fortunate enough to have access to female clones, especially the majority of the ones who may be initially attracted to your challenge.

You see, you are in a certain specific situation in which you need to get a plant from outdoors to indoors for not much money and still keep it alive. The problem comes when you, for some reason, encourage other people to start using the same totally bare bones approach. You are trying to re-veg an already established plant. Meaning, among other things that you are not trying to flower using this one light setup. Mostly, other people who participate will have no choice but to flower using only the one light you suggested and as such they will see very poor results. So is this challenge really fair, or a walking contradiction? I can move my plant outdoors to flower! Well what other rules in this challenge can I break, I think I'll use an 1000w HID light! Bet all those people who accept this challenge will marvel at you growing skill when you show them pics of your big bud filled bush and they have a little budless stick. Just be sure not to tell them that you used the Californian sun to flower it, while they used the one small CFL.

And while it may be fine and legal for you to grow, MOST other people are not that fortunate. They could face serious penalties including jail time and the seizure of property. So why risk that for one plant that you will get nothing off of or could be male? The risk alone is not worth it. Just for fun? Yeah when your legal I suppose. For the rest of us poor fools, a needless liability.

Also, unlike the person you are trying to make me out to be, I see no dollar signs when it comes to my harvest. My plants are for my personal consumption only and not for sale. I only wish to increase yeilds so that I can smoke more of what I worked so hard to obtain. If you like smoking less, then go for it.
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Re: Grow challenge

I understand it takes 20 watts of lumen intensity per square foot for succesful growth. You propose using one 13 Watt cfl. I'm sorry, but I can't support this thread any longer.

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Re: Grow challenge

I suspect the only thing that will be learned is that MJ needs approx 70 lpw (lumen per watt) minimum to grow from seed to flower, properly. I don't think you will learn more than that, the plant won't branch real well, so your not really getting to see a good cycle of the plant. And finally, I don't feel this thread belongs in General Cultivation. . .

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Re: Grow challenge

Your cheating if your useing a clone considering the fact it was grown under better conditions beforehand. Also I would just cheat show a picture of it growing by itself in the 5 gallon bucket and 1 light and then when I'm done takeing pictures I would just put it back in with the rest. You should find an experienced growers to actually do it show result so you can find out what happens. And with a vareitys of strains growing how do you know whats growing? I could say bagseed and its lowryder. Sorry just feel like pointing out flaws after not getting any sleep and fresh out of tree.
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Re: Grow challenge

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Your cheating if your useing a clone considering the fact it was grown under better conditions beforehand. Also I would just cheat show a picture of it growing by itself in the 5 gallon bucket and 1 light and then when I'm done takeing pictures I would just put it back in with the rest. You should find an experienced growers to actually do it show result so you can find out what happens. And with a vareitys of strains growing how do you know whats growing? I could say bagseed and its lowryder. Sorry just feel like pointing out flaws after not getting any sleep and fresh out of tree.
hmmm i guess using a clone might be cheating like you said.....Ill be getting some super skunk seeds soon so maybe il do it with those

If you would cheat thats your business, id rather do it the way said and see if it turns out better than others.
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I understand it takes 20 watts of lumen intensity per square foot for succesful growth. You propose using one 13 Watt cfl. I'm sorry, but I can't support this thread any longer.
hey thanks for opening it back up :smoke2:
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Re: Grow challenge

Why are people getting upset about this?

You don't have to do this, if you don't want to. It's the persons choice if they want to participate in this "competetion" end of story.
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Re: Grow challenge

No ones upset, we were just discussing the pros and cons. I don't know why this thread was closed or why it was re-opened.

I agree entirely, it is a persons individual choice to decide to grow like this. Anyone can read these posts, consider the both sides, and then decide if they want to do it. Hopefully any plants entered in ths challenge turn out better than expected, but I just think they need a little more than just one small light.

As I told RiseAgainst I hope his plants do very well and he gets many healthy clones.
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It was my mistake to close the thread. It was an inadvertant action and I apologise for the confusion. Happy growing.
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I simply stated no one will accept this "challenge" because it does not have mass appeal. Why grow with one measly CFL when you could do alot better with a just a little more? I'm not even talking about buying huge set-ups, just anything is better than one small wattage CFL. I said not to grow one plant because if it's male then you have to start all over agian. Damn me if I try to convince people to stay away from junking a months worth of work. Fact is most people are not fortunate enough to have access to female clones, especially the majority of the ones who may be initially attracted to your challenge.

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And while it may be fine and legal for you to grow, MOST other people are not that fortunate. They could face serious penalties including jail time and the seizure of property. So why risk that for one plant that you will get nothing off of or could be male? The risk alone is not worth it. Just for fun? Yeah when your legal I suppose. For the rest of us poor fools, a needless liability.

Also, unlike the person you are trying to make me out to be, I see no dollar signs when it comes to my harvest. My plants are for my personal consumption only and not for sale. I only wish to increase yeilds so that I can smoke more of what I worked so hard to obtain. If you like smoking less, then go for it.
I'd just like to say that i was going to use a clone not the plant i have established. But now i guess im just gonna try it from seed instead, proly in a couple weeks when i get my super skunk seeds
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