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Old 09-15-2007, 01:59 AM   #1
 
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The reason why fruit sugar (fructose) is beneficial in flowering

To understand my answer to this you need to understand the molecular structure of THC.
In the last 10 days or so of my grow, I have been going out my backyard to pick a bunch of oranges, which I juice and add to my water. I apply immediately on making to my plants.
Why fruit juice? For the hydrocarbons in fructose, that's why. You can see from the image that THC is a molecule that has carbon, hydrogen and oxygen. These same elements are the same as in a hydrocarbon such as sugar.
By adding the fruit juice to my water, I am adding fructose. Fructose is the simplest of all the sugars, and is immediately available to the plant. More complex sugars such as sucrose (as in household sugar or molasses) maltose, or dextrose, take longer to become available to the plant, and have all been refined, losing all the natural benefits of fresh fruit juice.

Here is the THC molecule.



When the plant uptakes the fructose, it uses the carbon molecule to build cellulose; and in flower, it uses it to produce THC in conjunction with oxygen and hydrogen. In effect,the plant is rearranging the sugar hydrocarbon to your benefit.

The trick with growing big buds is to maximise your nutrient delivery, to meet the needs of a plant being grown under lights. Fruit juice is but one way of maximising the available nutrients to a plant for good growth.

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Re: The reason why fruit sugar (fructose) is beneficial in flowering

What is a good fruit juice/water ratio to use when doing this.
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Re: The reason why fruit sugar (fructose) is beneficial in flowering

agreed, I'm also interested. I'm assuming this is a watering technique and not a foliar feed?
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Re: The reason why fruit sugar (fructose) is beneficial in flowering

*****--are you saying you do this the last 10 days before harvest?
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Re: The reason why fruit sugar (fructose) is beneficial in flowering

Excuse me Mr. Smookin *****,

I wonder if you ever reuse your soil at all and if so, how does the pulp and fruit matter affect future grows?

Also, what other fresh fruit juices can be used that you recommend?

Thank you for your time!
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Re: The reason why fruit sugar (fructose) is beneficial in flowering

Lots of questions on this one. Looks really interesting. Hoping that you will provide much more detail.
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Re: The reason why fruit sugar (fructose) is beneficial in flowering

***** cleared it up in another thread

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As for the oranges, I went out to the tree and picked 4 oranges per plant I had growing, juiced them and added that to 10 litres of water immediately. I started adding the juice 2 weeks before expected finish date for flowering. I don't even strain the juice. The plants loved the orange juice. Combined with sea tea, it is a good way to increase yield. Flavour is not affected, as the orange flavinoids are not uptaken.
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Re: The reason why fruit sugar (fructose) is beneficial in flowering

Isn't this sugar available in honey, molasses, and other natural sources?? I've been using honey for this exact reason. For determining dose "Add enough to a container of room-temp water so that the solution is saturated. This will be around one tablespoon per quart of water.." - from HighTimes best of 2007
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Re: The reason why fruit sugar (fructose) is beneficial in flowering

Can you use honey? Does it have to be a specific kind?
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Re: The reason why fruit sugar (fructose) is beneficial in flowering

You can use honey, and most likely get good results. I prefer the fresh fruit juice as it is 'unprocessed' and still has the Zing of fresh fruit juice.
The more complex the sugars get as they get processed, the longer it takes the plant to uptake.
Sorry I missed earlier posts on this.

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Re: The reason why fruit sugar (fructose) is beneficial in flowering

Hello *****. I read about useing orange juice & I doubt that it is not working this way you want. Plant roots do not take up sugars from soil. Plant makeing them theirselves, useing ATP, which is made throw the photosynthetic process.
So it´s also meanless to discuss, which is better, orange or whatsoever juice or even honey.
What may sugar do good in soil ? I suppose that bacterias just love sugar, for them it is good :) but are these bacterias good for plant...
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Re: The reason why fruit sugar (fructose) is beneficial in flowering

Great post *****.
I am sure it would take a truck load of oranges to do anything bad to your plants but i am interested in the orange water ratio that you use also.
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Re: The reason why fruit sugar (fructose) is beneficial in flowering

I have fresh honey from the people that have there own hives .. I may try this you say 2 weeks before expected finish date for flowering. great tip ***** could you start a little earlier with smaller doses ?
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Re: The reason why fruit sugar (fructose) is beneficial in flowering

I did this once with honey during flowering, once with pinapple during veg, and once with grapefuit juice(all fresh squeezed) during flowering. I think they like it. I think ***** said one tsp per gallon, but I am not exactly sure.

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Re: The reason why fruit sugar (fructose) is beneficial in flowering

they sell corn sugar at the store, I got a bag in the kitchen. they have em because it's sweeter and easier for diabetics to eat, low-calories too. do you think I could warm up a 1 cup of water on the stove and add like 2 tablespoons of fructose stir it in to dissolve, then (after it cools) throw it in my res?

oh wait I will need to measure everything out correctly to make it about as sweet as orange juice on the orange juice concentrate it says 8 oz of oj has 25g sugar... so can I melt like 25g of corn sugar into 8 oz of H20 and have orange juice substitute? I don't want the orange juice acidity in my plants roots, I think this method will be a little milder.
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