growing colas

[brothergrimm]

I'm in no rush Alien. I am very grateful to see you put out the effort to help all of us here. You're the heat in my book!

[ORBEH]

Grow 12/12 from seed. The plant will produce one main cola. All the plants energy will go into this cola.

[Racefan]

Originally Posted by ORBEH

Grow 12/12 from seed. The plant will produce one main cola. All the plants energy will go into this cola.

Yep! And you require 2 to 3 times "more" plants to equal the same yield one could get from a couple of bigger plants. In the USA plant count matters big time. Especially to the feds. 100 or more plants is a almost guarantee that the feds will be involved even if your state or local government drops all charges. But even the local LEO's will think your a big time grower if you have a lot of plants. Doesn't matter how big they get to them. Just how many there are.
One should consider this when starting to grow. That's one reason scrogs are so great. Big yields with only a couple plants. IMO one should be more concerned with getting a large quality yield from each harvest rather than trying to get more harvests with smaller yields. Just my opinion.

[ORBEH]

Yep! And you require 2 to 3 times "more" plants to equal the same yield one could get from a couple of bigger plants

Whether I grow 18/6 or grow 12/12, there are still the same amount of plants in the grow space at any one time, so makes no difference to me regarding police and plant count. If LEO does call, at least I won't have lots of weed from my last "huge" harvest.

IMO one should be more concerned with getting a large quality yield from each harvest rather than trying to get more harvests with smaller yields

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Advantages of growing 12/12

1. I have a crop ready every 11 or 12 weeks
2. I save a hell of a lot of money on electricity and nutes
3. Equipment lasts longer (bulbs 2 times longer)
3. Plants are not competing for light so buds are denser
4. Better air flow, less chance of mould
5. I can add plants at any time; they're all on the same cycle

Why should one be concerned with getting large harvests as opposed to more smaller harvests ? I've done the math and by the time you take crop cycle time and money savings into consideration there is very little in the difference :smoke2:

[Racefan]

Originally Posted by ORBEH

Whether I grow 18/6 or grow 12/12, there are still the same amount of plants in the grow space at any one time, so makes no difference to me regarding police and plant count. If LEO does call, at least I won't have lots of weed from my last "huge" harvest.
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Advantages of growing 12/12

1. I have a crop ready every 11 or 12 weeks
2. I save a hell of a lot of money on electricity and nutes
3. Equipment lasts longer (bulbs 2 times longer)
3. Plants are not competing for light so buds are denser
4. Better air flow, less chance of mould
5. I can add plants at any time; they're all on the same cycle

Why should one be concerned with getting large harvests as opposed to more smaller harvests ? I've done the math and by the time you take crop cycle time and money savings into consideration there is very little in the difference :smoke2:

Do and believe what you want to. I don't need to grow a huge number of plants to get a yield, I use a total of 1k HPS and 2 65 watt floros ever and harvest 4 to 5 plants equaling well over a lb of product every 10 to 11 weeks. I can say to any and all if anything were to happen that I "ONLY" had 4 or 5 plants and that's the total count that would be reported. Not 15 or 20 plants which is what is needed when growing 12/12.
I've done the math as well and all the numbers tell me that in a country where plant numbers count "against" you, having higher plant numbers than necessary seems to not be the smartest thing to do.
Just my thoughts and ideas. (opinions)

[ORBEH]

Not 15 or 20 plants which is what is needed when growing 12/12.

Hold your horses there mate. As I already said, I do not grow lots of plants. I don't need a pound of bud every 10 to 11 weeks. I'm a personal grower, not a dealer.

Peace ORBEH

[Racefan]

lol your not getting it and I can't put it any simpler.lol I'm not putting the 12/12 way of growing down. it has it's purposes. But it also has it's disadvantages. Plant count is one of them. I love to help people with growing. I love to grow myself. I planted my first plant over 20 years ago. I just try to make sure that both sides to the story are to9ld on all set ups and systems. It doesn't mean I'm against anything. Just saying it how I see it.
As for the amount grown...I'm a personal med grower myself who has to grow according to county guidleines which has chosen to use the states guidelines for plant count. I believe I'm allowed 6 mature and 12 imature plants. I'm not sure of the amount of processed material. I grow more than I need or could use with 4 plants. I don't save it up and what doesn't get used or given to friends and family is mulched. I use flowering clones and seed.
Now to keep it real...I mention flowering clones a lot...As much as I like them, there is a disadvantage to flowering clones as well. If you don't control the stretch or provide a trellis or grid like support you can end up with a ton of long spindly branches that won't have the strength to support the buds it grows. Flowering clones are best used in a SCRoG type grows. Something where the branches can be tied up, leaned against or trained under.

[ORBEH]

No worries mate. Personally I don't think that having 4 or 8 plants will matter much in the eyes of the law for most of us. At the end of the day it's down to the cops discretion whether you will be done for possession or supplying.

If it "looks" like a plant factory, well that could go against you, agreed ... but by looking at my setup it is quite obvious that it is for personal use only.

Maybe a cop would be more intimidated with a few plants that are as tall as him, and laugh at my plants that maybe reach up to mid thigh. Who knows mate, depends on the cop, what area you live in ...lotsa different variables, how respectful you are, whether you've been in trouble before, whether they heard you were dealing or not and whether you've got a job or not.

Unfortunately I do not have a medical card, and no such thing exists in my part of the world. Maybe someday

As regards flowering clones, I have no experience whatsoever. I only grow from seed. I am one of "those" that believe that clones develop more lateral roots, whereas a seed will develop a healthy tap root. I believe a seed will always grow into a healthier plant than a clone, that is just my opinion.

The only time I have ever experienced stretching with 12/12 is when the temps have been cold (and ... the initial flowering stretch of course)

Peace ORBEH

[ORBEH]

Very impressive thread FatJoe