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Old 05-24-2008, 06:12 PM   #1
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Exclamation 1st time grow NEED HELP

Hi all just started my seeds 10 days ago 2 norther lights and2 white wid so i am told they are about 5 inches in height and have been potted for 7 days my light (enviro light) is about 3 feet above them. Today one fellover is my light to high is it an ok light or will it only do veg do i need to upgrade to sodium will post photo when i figure out how (if anyone can tell me) any help will be appreicated greatly thanks

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so is evrything lookin ok anyone see any thing i need to change any addvice let me know what you all think thanks all and woo just looked at my gall 46 hit on the box the light came in will try and get the whole box in as it give spectrum details as well the light and refector cost £70 is that ok

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Old 05-24-2008, 06:24 PM   #2
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Re: 1st time grow NEED HELP!!!!

Prop it up and get the light as low as you can. Get a fan blowing softly on her, she will stand up in a day or two ;-)

Good Luck!

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Old 05-24-2008, 06:39 PM   #3
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Re: 1st time grow NEED HELP!!!!

cheers will a house hold fan do i have a shelf i could put it under so there is not to much force on the plant its only a small wardrobe29in by 18in
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Old 05-24-2008, 08:13 PM   #4
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Re: 1st time grow NEED HELP!!!!

ok i know i am askin alot but real dont know much is there any way to keep smell down without spendin loads

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Old 05-24-2008, 08:18 PM   #5
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Re: 1st time grow NEED HELP!!!!

This is in our FAQ's and may help with odours.

How To Build an Inexpensive Carbon Air Scrubber?
Building a carbon scrubber for de-odorizing stinky grows.
The design is such that there is no back pressure on the grow box exhaust fan, and there is maximum surface area for the exhaust air to contact the carbon.

The basic parts list:
2"x2"s and 1/4" plywood sheets, cut to the size of the furnace filters being used
4 furnace filters
4 to 5 lbs. of activated carbon
A set of four casters (wheels)
Duck tape, screws and four *hanger bolts 2" long by 1/4-20 with wingnuts and washers to fasten one removable side for filter servicing.
*Hanger bolts are machine threaded on one end and wood screw threads on the other end.

It starts with the frame construction:
In this example, the measurements of the box, furnace/fibre filters etc...
the scrubber is ~ 17" x 26" x 48" tall... the furnace filters are 16" x 25" x 1", though they are really only 3/4" thick. But again, your design dimensions will depend on the furnace filter size you choose based on the design criteria.

Wheels for mobility, and a wire screen on the bottom to hold the weight
of the de-odorizing filter without the filter buckling.

Using 4 furnace filters and 4 1/2 lbs. of activated carbon to make
a dual layer de-odorizing filter. 2 furnace filters on the bottom,
then a layer of carbon, another furnace filter, another layer of carbon,
and a furnace filter on top.

Carbon layer number one.

Carbon layer number two.

Tape up the carbon/screen layers, and then tape to the base,
creating a completely sealed bottom.

Add the walls and top.

Precut the input air opening before attaching the sides,
and add appropriate interface hardware.

Tape up the box seams with duct tape (the metal tape is best),
and it's ready for action.

Design criteria and further comments:
The design is solid and works well at eliminating that smell
as long as the following criteria is observed:
For every one (1) cubic feet of exhaust air to scrub:
Have a minimum of 1.25 ounces of activated carbon.
Have at least 8 square inches of filter surface area.

The concept has been tested for several months with multiple grows of the smelliest stuff available. not only does it work well during the grow, but the same technology has been used successfully in drying chambers to eliminate the odor of drying bud (sometimes far worse than the grow itself).

Ionizers are a waste of money to ganja growers. I did try the design with an ionizer inside the enclosure, no difference.
I have also used ozone and found it to be very effective in conjunction
with carbon for larger grows where the design criteria could not be met (too much air flow for the filters used), but the ozone is after the carbon and not before, since carbon absorbs ozone, and i want the carbon to saturate as much as possible with bud stink, then the ozone to clean up the rest.

The carbon is changed every three (3) months or so, and so far, it has not reached saturation within that time period.

Some Q & A about the carbon air scrubber

Why is the box so big?
To eliminate back pressure on the exhaust fan to maximize air movement through the grow box. I am sure the overall dimensions can be scaled down, though I am not sure to what dimensions.

Could you do this to a regular grow box?
Yes, although you want all of the workings in the top of the box. Exhaust fan, carbon filter, etc., venting out of the top of the enclosure.

Where did you purchase the carbon?
The neighborhood fish/aquarium store has the pricey stuff, at around $10+ per 2.25 lbs. It comes alot cheaper, though you might have to change it out more often. Mail-order fish supply places over the net are the way to go when purchasing bulk activated carbon/charcoal.

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Re: 1st time grow NEED HELP!!!!

Not really, there are ways using deodorizers, but it's best to buy a 70.00 refillable carbon filter with a fan on it, then you will smell NOTHING in the exhaust air.
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Re: 1st time grow NEED HELP!!!!

thank guys going to a bit of reserch now
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Re: 1st time grow NEED HELP!!!!

hi all plants are doin realy well these wee babys can realy grow leaves just keep comin will put photos up later

thanks all

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Old 05-27-2008, 08:33 PM   #9
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right here we grow the first weekly entry we will start with the room its 2*2*7 a cubord basicly i am using an eco light only out over here i am told it 200 watt 8u,230v 50HZ
(none of that makes sense to me) the box say full spectrum & red colour 6400/2700k extremly out par lumens we are also usin a potted refector over the light the walls and floor are painted flat white am i ok so far no magor mistakes yet apart from no air flow yet lookin ideas on this one my cubord is in bed room so noise is a factor above the room is a large roof space so fan in the roof will be fine right now for the babys they where all from seed (donated by cous big thanks) 2* white widow2*northern lights oldest10 days youngist 7days all about 4-5inches tall and as they grow they become addictive as i have herd many a 420er say i will post pics of the room and babys later i am going to use biobuzz grow(veg)bloom(flower) and top max(micros) and i am growing in bb allmix soil so is it to early for nutes all nutes are organic i have been told its abetter smoke anyone know anything about biobuzz good or bad thanks in advance for any help
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Re: 1st time grow NEED HELP!!!!

thanks just staked them all with wooden sticks today will get pics up asap
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Re: 1st time grow NEED HELP!!!!

Thanks boss what does cfl stand for want to go to local lighting store might see if i can put them round the wall lower down dont know if my light will penatrate lower dowm when the girls get bigger do they produce much heat?
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Re: 1st time grow NEED HELP!!!!

Compact fluorescent light. You can find them at walmart. They produce very little heat.
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Re: 1st time grow NEED HELP!!!!

Thanks but no walmarts in Northern Ireland is the any better size or colouryour pics are insipiring
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Look for 26w soft white.
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