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Old 08-24-2009, 07:31 AM   #1
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Question Is Anyone Familiar with Serenade garden Disease Control concentrate?

Never used this product. It came highly recommended to combat/suppress powdery mildew. The instructions are rather vague.
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Old 08-24-2009, 07:37 PM   #2
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Re: Is Anyone Familiar with Serenade garden Disease Control concentrate?

I could really use some 1 with experience using this to speak up. Maybe I'm asking my questions wrong being that they seem to frequently go unanswered. If it wasn't for staff and a handful of select members (who always end up answering my questions) I'd pretty much be on my own here. If u take info from the site try to give something back. It seems like a lot of people just need quick answers, sign up, ask, get an answer, maybe hang around for a couple days or so then u hardly ever see them log on till there's another problem. When u go to their profile and look at their posts they're all questions, no answers which is fine for a newbie. Point is we're not all newbie's, if take from here give something back. With that said, a lil help would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Is Anyone Familiar with Serenade garden Disease Control concentrate?

never used this product but i know anything thats been approved by OMRI is organic, as u probably know lol.

Anyway i did find this and this BWC BayArea if you aint come across it yet. Hope there's something there that can help you.
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never used this product but i know anything thats been approved by OMRI is organic, as u probably know lol.

Anyway i did find this and this BWC BayArea if you aint come across it yet. Hope there's something there that can help you.
The 1st link is pretty much the same as what's on the bottle. It didn't clear up the application portion of my question. I guess I'm stumped because the instructions talk about fruit bearing plants nothing similar to cannabis. I would like to hear from some one who used this on cannabis. If u peek at my grow (in signature) U may see my cause for concern. I could test on one plant 1st but I just want to get this done and out of the way. So again if U've used this please help. Thanks 4 trying Dean. Says I gotta spread some love. Can't +rep u.
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Re: Is Anyone Familiar with Serenade garden Disease Control concentrate?

the Humulus, (Hop) plant has the same genus as cannabis so if know one does not answer i'd go with application rates and use recommendations for that plant based on the fact it has the same genus. i also found this for you i think it will benefit you

1fl oz per gallon is recommended dose for Humulus, (Hop)
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the Humulus, (Hop) plant has the same genus as cannabis so if know one does not answer i'd go with application rates and use recommendations for that plant based on the fact it has the same genus. i also found this for you i think it will benefit you

1fl oz per gallon is recommended dose for Humulus, (Hop)
Sprayed last night, using the 1oz:1gal ratio. I will post an update and more complete product review once I can see the effects. Leaves look a lot cleaner after spraying. I'm in the 5th week. U cab see what I;m talking about by looking in my journal BWC BayAreas Largest solo grow to date (click the follow my grow link in my signature.
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Re: Is Anyone Familiar with Serenade garden Disease Control concentrate?

just bought some "Safer" fungicide spray... i will post about its effectiveness. I got it to fight the powdery shit but i actually got rid of it using high ph water.
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Old 08-26-2009, 11:39 PM   #8
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Re: Is Anyone Familiar with Serenade garden Disease Control concentrate?

To my understanding U don't get rid of PM its systemic, meaning it stays with the plant until it dies.U just control the outbreaks and try to keep out/off of buds. Maybe somethin like avid would work, but its illegal here and I don't wanna spray or water with toxic chemicals.
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Re: Is Anyone Familiar with Serenade garden Disease Control concentrate?

you could be right mate
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Re: Is Anyone Familiar with Serenade garden Disease Control concentrate?

Ok so I sprayed at a ration of 1oz Serenade to a gallon of water. Used like a gallon and a half. I noticed on the smaller plants were small. to med white spots (looks like bleach was splashed on foliage), a sign of phytotoxicity. I also sprayed with the lights on and only 3 or four plants (3 small in 1 gal pots) showed these type of symptoms. The others look cool. I got some brown pistils on my indicas and some smaller lower buds on my hybrids (deep chunk X strawberry cough), my hybrids took it cool. Problem is I spotted the start of another outbreak and I don't wanna spray again this far into flower. My last crop was adversely affect by spraying in week 5, resin production was decreased like 30%-40%. Got some thinking to do. I'm thinkin maybe ozone but I don't wanna ruin smell and taste.
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Re: Is Anyone Familiar with Serenade garden Disease Control concentrate?

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Problem is I spotted the start of another outbreak and I don't wanna spray again this far into flower. My last crop was adversely affect by spraying in week 5, resin production was decreased like 30%-40%. Got some thinking to do. I'm thinkin maybe ozone but I don't wanna ruin smell and taste.

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You can try several homemade receipes

Baking soda solution.. you will have to play around the strength... or a
skim milk solution. Both Solutions control Powdery Mildew by changing the ph of the foilage surface. Functions as a fungistat, not a fungicide.

You could also use neemoil.

A great product that I sprayed on my plants when I got white flies (after trying a tabasco/garlic mixture that did work to some degree) and didnt notice ANY adverse change whatsoever... they actually seemed to like it was Tomatoe and Vegetable 3in1 Insecticide, Fungicide and Miticide By Bonide. The active ingredient is Clarified Hydrophobic Exract of Neem Oi.
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Ok so I sprayed at a ration of 1oz Serenade to a gallon of water. Used like a gallon and a half.....Problem is I spotted the start of another outbreak and I don't wanna spray again this far into flower. My last crop was adversely affect by spraying in week 5, resin production was decreased like 30%-40%. Got some thinking to do.
Why not just try spraying the foilage that has the visible signs of PM on it... or pehaps clip off the offending leaves?
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Re: Is Anyone Familiar with Serenade garden Disease Control concentrate?

Yea I've been pinching infected leaves or at the node. I don't like to because the leaves are gonna start yellowing and falling off NE way. It can be on the leaves a little. I just don't want it on the stem and buds. I been using baking soda water to try to slow it down. Serenade says it good up to 3 days b4 harvest. I wouldn't do it. Turned pistils brown at the 1 oz/1 gal ratio. Don't want to accidentally spray bud site is y I don't try to spray affected leaves individually.
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Re: Is Anyone Familiar with Serenade garden Disease Control concentrate?

Ok. Round 2. I'm increasing the the ratio 2oz serenade to 1 gal h2o. I'll post the results in a few days. I'm on week 7.
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