Advanced Nutrients

[greenisland]

lol, were all so PC here it makes me laugh. I think its important to put are best face forward for all the public to see but Im just kind of surprised how PC we all are. I guess it would probably be different if we different have super monitors like sonique420...(whatever hapened to him anyway??? havent heard from him back on a couple things??). Anyhow I agree with butcher. And I love this site. I love the fact that were all so PC ("politically correct" not "personal computer")here. It makes us more friendly and out to make an important statement about MJ.

However I wont lie...I want to see a response from aerohurbs and see what he has to say about his affiliation with AN. Sonique420 gave me a term for this a while back...I beleive the term was "sockpuppeting", no?

[The Butcher]

sockpuppeting that hilarious.Thats definetly a pet peev of mine.Just be who you are(meaning anyone who has ever tried to do this).And i'm interested to in what any1 of the tree mentioned has to say about being in affiliation with A.N. I say this not to antagonize, but to know if they do or dont. And hey if they do p.m me with some info.

WE'll c what happens tith this whole A.N thing though.Its funny i just sent a thank you to some of the companies for thier responses and most of them already responded back with some support.Some are even sending me some things.That goes without even asking just saying thank you.Now thats grow support.Thank you to all those companies.Alot of them are intersested in the results.We'll see, i figure hopefully in the next couple weeks i can really start blueprint the whole idea now and go from there.I got G.H, dutchmaster, B.C. Technaflora and a few others covered. Humbolt is still in the works as far as puchasing the nute program.Is there any others that any1 suggest?

[greenisland]

Just having those few companies in a head to head duel would be a great thing for this whole community to have. It would be very generouse of you to do such a thing butcher. And Im sure I speak for most of us when I say thank for going out of your way to do such an experiment, it will certainly help us all learn and increase our knowledge of whats out there. Thanks again man, its much appreciated, by me, and others. I cant wait to see how it turns out!

[The Butcher]

hey thanks GREENISLAND!!

Thats very appreciated.I wanted to this grow for along time.i've seen comparison grows (lol..example A.N's thats 1 is what really made me want to do this). To see if theres that much of a difference.I dont have the space that they do. But i fugure hey why not.Hey who know maybe we can all come up with all our own regimines.either way we can but a little background information can help.i think it'll be interesting to see how the results compare with the thread: see what kind of nutes are preferred.

anyways, thanks again

[decrimCA]

Originally Posted by greenisland

Just having those few companies in a head to head duel would be a great thing for this whole community to have. It would be very generouse of you to do such a thing butcher. And Im sure I speak for most of us when I say thank for going out of your way to do such an experiment, it will certainly help us all learn and increase our knowledge of whats out there. Thanks again man, its much appreciated, by me, and others. I cant wait to see how it turns out!

I've seen some side by side comparisons of using Advanced Nutrients.

I want to try out a comparison as well, but I just don't have the space or the energy to try to keep all of the test conditions controlled. That would be a lot of work for a small grower like me.

I do use Advanced Nutrients myself, and it seems that Big Mike is actually putting out a Million Dollar challenge to other nute companies to compare the products side by side. Sounds nuts, I know, but I'm surprised no one has taken him up on it since so many nutrient companies say that Advanced Nutrients isn't the best.

The challenge video is on Grower's Underground and there are a lot of great videos about growing questions there too.

Always better to have more information and then make a decision than to make a decision based off of no information at all.

[TruGreens]

Originally Posted by The Butcher

hey thanks GREENISLAND!!

Thats very appreciated.I wanted to this grow for along time.i've seen comparison grows (lol..example A.N's thats 1 is what really made me want to do this). To see if theres that much of a difference.I dont have the space that they do. But i fugure hey why not.Hey who know maybe we can all come up with all our own regimines.either way we can but a little background information can help.i think it'll be interesting to see how the results compare with the thread: see what kind of nutes are preferred.

anyways, thanks again

I think if you look around 420Mag a bit, you're going to find a lot of different answers to your questions. After all, growers are all a bit picky, ahem, particular about their growing regimens.

I would try to pick a few nutrient lines you have easy access to (meaning you can buy them where you're at) and then look online to find out first hand experiences of what others have noticed from using them. This way, you can begin to get a feel for what each of the products are without actually having to do the test yourself.

Ask the growers questions and see whether they happy with what they've chosen or not. Ask them what works for them - or not.

You're going to find that growers are a chatty bunch, especially when they've found something they've like - as you can already see from this thread.

[hookahma]

Originally Posted by TruGreens

I think if you look around 420Mag a bit, you're going to find a lot of different answers to your questions. After all, growers are all a bit picky, ahem, particular about their growing regimens.

I would try to pick a few nutrient lines you have easy access to (meaning you can buy them where you're at) and then look online to find out first hand experiences of what others have noticed from using them. This way, you can begin to get a feel for what each of the products are without actually having to do the test yourself.

Ask the growers questions and see whether they happy with what they've chosen or not. Ask them what works for them - or not.

You're going to find that growers are a chatty bunch, especially when they've found something they've like - as you can already see from this thread.

I wholeheartedly agree, with a caveat. I think you need to be a little wary of some folks on these boards. While most people are trying to help, others are out to confuse you and to even make you buy something you really don't need.

But how can you decide who is who?

Chances are you can't. That's why it's really important to make sure you are always thinking about what makes sense to YOU. In the end, you're the only one who makes the choice, the one who spends the money, and the one who lives with the results. Think when you get answers from others and if something just doesn't add up, don't do it.

The beauty of being anonymous on these boards (more or less) is that no one is going to check up on you to see what you've used. So, you only have to tell others if you really want to.

This is an important thing in any decision, though. If you ask ten people something, you will probably get ten different answers. In the end, you're the one who has to make the choice.

Good luck!

[The Butcher]

I feel the both of you on what you are saying. One of the issue's that I get is the customer service from some of the companies isnt as accomidating as they portray. And there are companies that get back as quick as you can send them questions. I've got the g.h series most of the A.N series. Got the B.C Technaflora series Need just a couple more products from Dutch Masters and a few other companies. But it all takes time and money as well as good customer service to make sure this comp gro will be as accurate as possible. All the nute companies that have responded to my emails and questions are eager to see the results. Its funny some of them have offered to help out but i declined and said I want to do an indi study then give the results without anything looking fishy.
And yeas I know i would be the only one to know how i got the products but i'm trying to be honest when it comes to the nute comp grow, not give a result that benefits me. when it does get going then it will be as stright forward as it can possibly be. Nothing but the truth.

[hookahma]

Originally Posted by The Butcher

I feel the both of you on what you are saying. One of the issue's that I get is the customer service from some of the companies isnt as accomidating as they portray. And there are companies that get back as quick as you can send them questions. I've got the g.h series most of the A.N series. Got the B.C Technaflora series Need just a couple more products from Dutch Masters and a few other companies. But it all takes time and money as well as good customer service to make sure this comp gro will be as accurate as possible. All the nute companies that have responded to my emails and questions are eager to see the results. Its funny some of them have offered to help out but i declined and said I want to do an indi study then give the results without anything looking fishy.
And yeas I know i would be the only one to know how i got the products but i'm trying to be honest when it comes to the nute comp grow, not give a result that benefits me. when it does get going then it will be as stright forward as it can possibly be. Nothing but the truth.

so who do you think has the best customer service. I haven't really had major problems with anyone just yet. Little problems, sure, but let's face it - no company is perfect.

And if there is a perfect company out there - I want to know who they are...:)

I agree that customer service is important to me and it would be really great if newer folks could talk to professionals abotu growing tomatoes.

Got a horror story to share? sounds like you might.

[The Butcher]

Honestly, gotta say Dutch Masters and House & Garden have the greatest Customer Service that I've experienced. You can email them and they will get back to you more then likely that day, if obviosly its to late then the next day. I've been back and forth with Dutch Masters about their Liquid Light and Penetrator program lately and its been a pleasure dealing with them. Never had to pick up a phone to get a hold of them. And when I did it was just to say thanx, and to talk to them while I was with a group of growers talking about tomatoes. No real horror stories. All the companies I've talked to have been plesent, some a little late on answering questions, but most got back to me quickly. The only issues I've ever had where with Advanced Nutrients. There were a few emails that didnt even get a response. And when I did, I had already got the answer for myself. But they responded the last couple times. Theres no perfect company in our industry. And if anyone says there perfect chances are their good but not perfect. Everybody is on the up and up, some lag more then others. We just have to keep in mind that these companies are busy, and will respond, eventually, hopefully. Its how they treat you and I as people, not just a random person from across the globe. Thats what makes the best companies; being personable, hospitable, informative as well as respectfull.

[greenisland]

I have had the same happen to me with AN and many a shop owner would say they are getting tired of carying the line just because they dont want to deal with them and their service. I have never had any issues with them but then again Ive never really tried but I know people who have and have not gotten good results from AN. But so far I havent heard anything bad about dutch nutes. Advanced nutes do work and perform well I will say that though.

[Dain Bramage]

For what ADVANCED NUTRIENTS cost and how complacated it can be(thay do have a lot of products that cross over each other)customer service is very important to me.