Rockwool to 5 Gal?

VictorDaniels · 06-18-2008, 12:35 PM

I am a nu-bee and I haven't started yet but I want all my ducks in a row before I start. I am going to get my pots soon and I need to know if there is a reason I can't just change from my seedling in the rockwool cube to a 5 gal pot. Is there a reason to go small then transplant? Also has anyone used "Gel cubes" for seedlings? I saw them @ OSH and they looked cool. They are about the size of a rockwool cube but made clear gel and I think it said they have nutes in them. I also think it said they were reusable. Reusing dosen't sound like a good idea but let me know if anybody has used them or heard anything about them. Thanks

VICtOrDANiels

DaMagoMan · 06-18-2008, 02:16 PM

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the rockwool cube to a 5 gal pot

Should be fine. I can't think of a downside

Racefan · 06-18-2008, 05:20 PM

The gel cubes suck. They don't allow o2 to the roots.
It's best to transplant up a couple of times rather than to transplant straight to a bigger container. The plants spend more time growing roots rather than vegetation when allowed a huge new container.

KUSH302 · 06-18-2008, 06:06 PM

I agree with racefan 100%.I start in rockwool cubes,then 16 oz cups and then 2 gallon pots or the ground.

grandma · 06-20-2008, 01:39 AM

Also, you can grow your plants under a smaller light if they are transplanted a couple of times. You want bright light so you branches will be closer together.

Boss · 06-20-2008, 03:39 AM

I don't get it. That goes against everything I was taught about transplanting plants :-)

I figure from seed to final pot would give me less stress and less hassle.

grandma · 06-20-2008, 04:21 AM

Repotting might delay the plant a bit if you damage the roots. But on a healthy cannabis plant, you'll get so many roots that it can clog up the pot. I just trimmed a bunch of roots that were hanging in the water tray.

Potting up, at the right time, will just allow good room to grow, without overcrowding the pots with roots.

Boss · 06-20-2008, 04:54 AM

Sounds good to me. I always figured I let the roots fill the 5 gallon bucket and the plant will follow :-)

VictorDaniels · 06-20-2008, 07:06 PM

[i]Thanks everyone![i] I Spoke to a guy at a hydro-store and he said the same thing about the benifits of going small to large(transplanting 1/2gal-3gal-5-gal). The next concern is watering\nutes. I want an easy system that will be effective yet easy. this may be for a new thread though.

Got Humboldt? · 06-27-2008, 09:50 PM

From wool ( or whatever medium) to 4x4 pots to 3 gal for me.
Try GHP it works, easy to use, hard to burn plants with. gives a good yeild with decent weight. Good luck.

Opie · 06-27-2008, 10:58 PM

This may be a stupid question but what is GHP?

NoLogo · 06-28-2008, 01:22 AM

i have always just started my seeds in 1" rock wool cubes, and once roots start coming out the bottom put them in the same dwc bucket setup they will be in where they are done and it has worked out fine for me. that way you don't have to mess around setting up three different buckets attaching the air stones and what not. the roots and plant seem to grow at about the same rate, i havnt noticed any substantial stunting of growth. that being said i use a 3 gall bucket not a 5.

oh and ghp stands for general hydroponics, a brand name in nutrients and grow systems.

Racefan · 06-28-2008, 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoLogo

i have always just started my seeds in 1" rock wool cubes, and once roots start coming out the bottom put them in the same dwc bucket setup they will be in where they are done and it has worked out fine for me. that way you don't have to mess around setting up three different buckets attaching the air stones and what not. the roots and plant seem to grow at about the same rate, i havnt noticed any substantial stunting of growth. that being said i use a 3 gall bucket not a 5.

oh and ghp stands for general hydroponics, a brand name in nutrients and grow systems.

lol You don't "transplant" in hydro. You change systems maybe or reservoirs but you don't transplant. The above converstaion applies to container growing like with soil or coir. And everyone I know abreviates general hydroponics as GH because hydroponics is used as one word. The "P" threw me as well.

NoLogo · 06-28-2008, 12:04 PM

lol, quote my post by accident? i dont think i mentioned transplanting.

KUSH302 · 06-28-2008, 03:39 PM

Again,No Logo.Low reading comprehension?This sub-form is about soil.Not hydro.

06-18-2008, 12:35 PM	#1
VictorDaniels Free Thinker Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Tulare,CA. Posts: 3	Rockwool to 5 Gal? I am a nu-bee and I haven't started yet but I want all my ducks in a row before I start. I am going to get my pots soon and I need to know if there is a reason I can't just change from my seedling in the rockwool cube to a 5 gal pot. Is there a reason to go small then transplant? Also has anyone used "Gel cubes" for seedlings? I saw them @ OSH and they looked cool. They are about the size of a rockwool cube but made clear gel and I think it said they have nutes in them. I also think it said they were reusable. Reusing dosen't sound like a good idea but let me know if anybody has used them or heard anything about them. Thanks VICtOrDANiels

06-18-2008, 05:20 PM	#3
Racefan Grow Support Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northern California Posts: 2,487	Re: Rockwool to 5 Gal? The gel cubes suck. They don't allow o2 to the roots. It's best to transplant up a couple of times rather than to transplant straight to a bigger container. The plants spend more time growing roots rather than vegetation when allowed a huge new container. __________________ Have you ever broke your scale and had to weigh your weed at the local produce stand? What is a Flowering Clone - Tutorial How to know when to harvest- Tutorial What is PH?- Tutorial

06-18-2008, 06:06 PM	#4
KUSH302 Free Thinker Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: The Patch Posts: 180	Re: Rockwool to 5 Gal? I agree with racefan 100%.I start in rockwool cubes,then 16 oz cups and then 2 gallon pots or the ground. __________________ "Livin's not hard,it's just not easy" Mark Lanegan

06-20-2008, 01:39 AM	#5
grandma Free Thinker Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Adeldam, Australia Posts: 86	Re: Rockwool to 5 Gal? Also, you can grow your plants under a smaller light if they are transplanted a couple of times. You want bright light so you branches will be closer together. __________________ "No comment"

06-20-2008, 03:39 AM	#6
Boss Cannabis Connoisseur Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 8,104 Blog Entries: 11	Re: Rockwool to 5 Gal? I don't get it. That goes against everything I was taught about transplanting plants :-) I figure from seed to final pot would give me less stress and less hassle. __________________ 420 Magazine Creating Cannabis Awareness Since 1993 My Photo Thread Boss's Poor Mans Grow Help Support Our Website! Please Visit Our Sponsors! Join 420 Girls and Help Support This Website!

06-20-2008, 04:21 AM	#7
grandma Free Thinker Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Adeldam, Australia Posts: 86	Re: Rockwool to 5 Gal? Repotting might delay the plant a bit if you damage the roots. But on a healthy cannabis plant, you'll get so many roots that it can clog up the pot. I just trimmed a bunch of roots that were hanging in the water tray. Potting up, at the right time, will just allow good room to grow, without overcrowding the pots with roots. __________________ "No comment"

06-20-2008, 04:54 AM	#8
Boss Cannabis Connoisseur Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 8,104 Blog Entries: 11	Re: Rockwool to 5 Gal? Sounds good to me. I always figured I let the roots fill the 5 gallon bucket and the plant will follow :-) __________________ 420 Magazine Creating Cannabis Awareness Since 1993 My Photo Thread Boss's Poor Mans Grow Help Support Our Website! Please Visit Our Sponsors! Join 420 Girls and Help Support This Website!

06-20-2008, 07:06 PM	#9
VictorDaniels Free Thinker Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Tulare,CA. Posts: 3	Re: Rockwool to 5 Gal? [i]Thanks everyone![i] I Spoke to a guy at a hydro-store and he said the same thing about the benifits of going small to large(transplanting 1/2gal-3gal-5-gal). The next concern is watering\nutes. I want an easy system that will be effective yet easy. this may be for a new thread though. __________________ "This isn't a war on drugs, but a war on personal freedoms!" Last edited by VictorDaniels; 06-20-2008 at 07:11 PM. Reason: I was confusing and un-specific.

06-27-2008, 09:50 PM	#10
Got Humboldt? Free Thinker Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 23	Re: Rockwool to 5 Gal? From wool ( or whatever medium) to 4x4 pots to 3 gal for me. Try GHP it works, easy to use, hard to burn plants with. gives a good yeild with decent weight. Good luck.

06-27-2008, 10:58 PM	#11
Opie Free Thinker Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 17	Re: Rockwool to 5 Gal? This may be a stupid question but what is GHP?

06-28-2008, 01:22 AM	#12
NoLogo Free Thinker Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 202	Re: Rockwool to 5 Gal? i have always just started my seeds in 1" rock wool cubes, and once roots start coming out the bottom put them in the same dwc bucket setup they will be in where they are done and it has worked out fine for me. that way you don't have to mess around setting up three different buckets attaching the air stones and what not. the roots and plant seem to grow at about the same rate, i havnt noticed any substantial stunting of growth. that being said i use a 3 gall bucket not a 5. oh and ghp stands for general hydroponics, a brand name in nutrients and grow systems. __________________ We all know that it's called the bionic, the bomb, the puff, the blow, the black, the herb, the sensie, the chronic, the sweet Mary Jane, the shit, Ganja, split, reefa, the bad, the buddha, the home grown, the ill, the maui-maui, the method, pot, lethal turbo, tie, shake, skunk, stress, wacky, weed, glaze, the boot, dimebag, Scooby Doo, bob, bogey, back yard boogie. But what is the other terms for it? - Ali G

06-28-2008, 12:04 PM	#14
NoLogo Free Thinker Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 202	Re: Rockwool to 5 Gal? lol, quote my post by accident? i dont think i mentioned transplanting. __________________ We all know that it's called the bionic, the bomb, the puff, the blow, the black, the herb, the sensie, the chronic, the sweet Mary Jane, the shit, Ganja, split, reefa, the bad, the buddha, the home grown, the ill, the maui-maui, the method, pot, lethal turbo, tie, shake, skunk, stress, wacky, weed, glaze, the boot, dimebag, Scooby Doo, bob, bogey, back yard boogie. But what is the other terms for it? - Ali G

06-28-2008, 03:39 PM	#15
KUSH302 Free Thinker Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: The Patch Posts: 180	Re: Rockwool to 5 Gal? Again,No Logo.Low reading comprehension?This sub-form is about soil.Not hydro. __________________ "Livin's not hard,it's just not easy" Mark Lanegan

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