OldMedMan's first grow Couchlock 2009

[canolution]

cool cool yea you split that air conditioner onto another circuit you will be fine i am sure that is wut is drawing most of your amps . i have been lucky enough to not need a dehumidifier. i am not sure how to deal with that wut is your RH? 66% is still in a acceptable range for veg growth it will give you short node spacing and fat leaves. them plants look fine for 3 weeks, my blueberry grew slow at first to but once it got some nice roots it took off.

[OldMedMan]

Originally Posted by canolution

cool cool yea you split that air conditioner onto another circuit you will be fine i am sure that is wut is drawing most of your amps . i have been lucky enough to not need a dehumidifier. i am not sure how to deal with that wut is your RH? 66% is still in a acceptable range for veg growth it will give you short node spacing and fat leaves. them plants look fine for 3 weeks, my blueberry grew slow at first to but once it got some nice roots it took off.

Thanks
It was you that made me look again very carefully for a different outlet and I found it in the small laundry room which is part of this room. Now I can start thinking of using my small Cab which is ready to go. Maybe I can clone a few and just keep it going..oops daydreaming again.

My RH is weird to say the least. Right now it is 66%, but it goes from 50% to 72%. The last week has been always 60% up to 72%. A very tropical Hawaiian week.
Thanks again for the tips.

[canolution]

yea that seems like a typical RH for the tropics . i to live in a simi tropical place well as tropical as the continental us gets anyways. hiawia sounds like paradise to me. but anyways are you pulling air from outside for your return air. i am unable to do that here because the temp and RH go way out or range and sometimes change in a matter of minutes. i used the air from another part of the house for the return. another thing is fans the problem with the RH being over 65% is it starts to affect how the plant transpires and respirates slowing plants growth and open the door to a host of problems involving fungus and other parasites. keep the air moving inside the cab, use 6" clip fans to blow the air over the plants this will lower the humidity a little but it also helps the plants respiration by evaporating moisture on and around the plants at a higher rate. also wut is the humidity of the return air going into your grow cab. if it is lower than wut is in your cab you need the vent more and faster. ie. bigger exhaust fan. wut does your cab run if you close it up tight ? you should take some better photos of your setup to . lets see that smaller cab your taking about. hows the kids doing?

[OldMedMan]

Originally Posted by canolution

yea that seems like a typical RH for the tropics . i to live in a simi tropical place well as tropical as the continental us gets anyways. hiawia sounds like paradise to me. but anyways are you pulling air from outside for your return air. i am unable to do that here because the temp and RH go way out or range and sometimes change in a matter of minutes. i used the air from another part of the house for the return. another thing is fans the problem with the RH being over 65% is it starts to affect how the plant transpires and respirates slowing plants growth and open the door to a host of problems involving fungus and other parasites. keep the air moving inside the cab, use 6" clip fans to blow the air over the plants this will lower the humidity a little but it also helps the plants respiration by evaporating moisture on and around the plants at a higher rate. also wut is the humidity of the return air going into your grow cab. if it is lower than wut is in your cab you need the vent more and faster. ie. bigger exhaust fan. wut does your cab run if you close it up tight ? you should take some better photos of your setup to . lets see that smaller cab your taking about. hows the kids doing?

Hi again canolution
Here's some more pictures of the Cab and the smaller Cab.

[OldMedMan]

Thanks canolution for all your help and tips.
OK here's the info you wanted.

Outdoor Temp 81.6 H 64%

AC temp 76 blowing into the room.

Intake T 79.3 H 56
Exhaust T 81.6 H 55

Inside the Cab with door closed.
T 86.9 H 53
The temp inside was taken at the very top of inside. If I took the temp at the bottom it would be influenced by the lights.

So just your suggestion to close the door really helped with the H, but increased the temp to 86.
Do you think it's Ok to have the temp that high?

Another reason I can't go though the walls is we want to sell this place soon. I say we because my ex wife lives here too. Long Story. We both own half the house. Three years ago it was worth $850,000, but is only worth around $500,000 now. Waiting for the prices to go back up if they do. We barely get by on my retirement. So not much to spend.

I'm so used to Hawaiian weather, I am freezing my ass off.lol

[canolution]

Originally Posted by OldMedMan

Thanks canolution for all your help and tips.
OK here's the info you wanted.

Outdoor Temp 81.6 H 64%

AC temp 76 blowing into the room.

Intake T 79.3 H 56
Exhaust T 81.6 H 55

Inside the Cab with door closed.
T 86.9 H 53
The temp inside was taken at the very top of inside. If I took the temp at the bottom it would be influenced by the lights.

So just your suggestion to close the door really helped with the H, but increased the temp to 86.
Do you think it's Ok to have the temp that high?

Another reason I can't go though the walls is we want to sell this place soon. I say we because my ex wife lives here too. Long Story. We both own half the house. Three years ago it was worth $850,000, but is only worth around $500,000 now. Waiting for the prices to go back up if they do. We barely get by on my retirement. So not much to spend.

I'm so used to Hawaiian weather, I am freezing my ass off.lol

SWEET, you got that sucker about dialed in perfect. yes RH and temperature does a dirty dance with each other when one goes up the other goes down. but them conditions will grow some dope bro. i run my veg room in the high 80s sometimes when i am to lazy to seal the room up. the plants seem to love it. as for you house man, i am no realitor but if i was u i would hold onto the house the market will rebound to pre98 conditions before it crashes again well that is if the vandenburger group has its way. it is a huge conspiracy man it really is! download the movie the "obama deception" you will see central banking has owned ever president after truman. lol anyways dude i feel you on the retirement. i am only 26 but as i get older i watch my older smoking friends try and pay for weed that keeps getting more and more expensive while they are liven on a fixed income. drug dealers come and go and you get stuck with some punk kid that charges YOU TWICE AS MUCH FOR YOU DOPE AND STEALS A COUPLE GRAMS OUT OF EVER BAG. it is a damb shame. you got the solution thou man it is grow your own dope. it is so rewarding in so many ways. I am curios thou why dont you grow outside. they have year round conditions for growing there dont they?

o yea is that the guts to a fridge?

[OldMedMan]

Originally Posted by canolution

SWEET, you got that sucker about dialed in perfect. yes RH and temperature does a dirty dance with each other when one goes up the other goes down. but them conditions will grow some dope bro. i run my veg room in the high 80s sometimes when i am to lazy to seal the room up. the plants seem to love it. as for you house man, i am no realitor but if i was u i would hold onto the house the market will rebound to pre98 conditions before it crashes again well that is if the vandenburger group has its way. it is a huge conspiracy man it really is! download the movie the "obama deception" you will see central banking has owned ever president after truman. lol anyways dude i feel you on the retirement. i am only 26 but as i get older i watch my older smoking friends try and pay for weed that keeps getting more and more expensive while they are liven on a fixed income. drug dealers come and go and you get stuck with some punk kid that charges YOU TWICE AS MUCH FOR YOU DOPE AND STEALS A COUPLE GRAMS OUT OF EVER BAG. it is a damb shame. you got the solution thou man it is grow your own dope. it is so rewarding in so many ways. I am curios thou why dont you grow outside. they have year round conditions for growing there dont they?

o yea is that the guts to a fridge?

Thanks again canolution
I love the way u described the dance between T & H. That's the main problem I've been fighting. I can't thank you enough for the help. The girls are thriving now. They are happy as hell now and growing. They are still short but are spreading out. I could actually see growth from one day to the next. They are short fat fannies anyway. I bought the seed for that very purpose since I have limited space in the Cab. No thats not a fridge. Both Cabs are old stereo cabinets. I was going throw one of them out and it struck me I could recycle them and put them to use.

Outdoors would be perfect here, however they would be gone the first night.
The houses are right on top on each other and I can hear conversations from all sides.

I buy my stuff from a old guy like me. I've been buying from him for about 20 years. It's a love hate relationship. I hate his prices, but I like him as a friend and we have great talks. I know his whole family and have watched his daughters grow up. He doesn't grow, just resales it. Believe me if you don't know people here (like family) you are not welcome. I know there is at least four big growers in my area, but they are really careful. Before I retired I made good money so it didn't hurt too much. Now it does.
You are right about the control of the pres. When the average person final gets sick of the way things are going, things will be forced to change.

Once again thanks for the help, you've made a friend in me.

[canolution]

you got a friend here to man . i am glad to help you i am i am learning a lot to just buy helping you man so it is my pleasure.

it is more than just the press they own everything man even the government bought and payed for. the president works for them not us.
you have to watch this movie check out this link man , this is going to blow your mind

[OldMedMan]

Decided to name my girls.



Each one is named after an ex wife
Top one is Tad
Middle one Rosemary because it's a twin. Rose and Mary.
Bottom one is Joanne.

[OldMedMan]

Originally Posted by canolution

you got a friend here to man . i am glad to help you i am i am learning a lot to just buy helping you man so it is my pleasure.

it is more than just the press they own everything man even the government bought and payed for. the president works for them not us.
you have to watch this movie check out this link man , this is going to blow your mind

[musikgenman]

Looking like a great start! I'm new but I started with Hydro so this will be fun. Good Luck!!!

Musik \\\vVv///

[OldMedMan]

Originally Posted by musikgenman

Looking like a great start! I'm new but I started with Hydro so this will be fun. Good Luck!!!

Musik \\\vVv///

Thanks Musikgenman

You are so right. This is fun. I love looking at them too.

I just read your journal and man, you have an adventure
You were much braver than me in trying hydro as your first grow.
Those two girls you have are crazy. Very nice work.
Think we both know that we wouldn't be so far along had we been by ourselves, but we have both received great help from the folks here at 420.

I'll be looking forward to your final numbers, well done.
If I get an oz or more I'll be happy as hell. I will have learned allot.
Great Job Bro

[OldMedMan]

Hi All that are watching my grow. I have an unexpected addition to my family of girls. I forgot my germ box in the closest and last week I went in to clean it up. After two weeks of it setting there I had another girl starting.
It's 1 week old and healthy in it's jiffy cup.

Here's my thinking:
1. Throw her in with rest. I'm going to start 12/12 next week, so for her it would be a no mercy kind of thing.
2. I could put her in a separate grow box. It's ready to go however, I was going to use that one to start 4 more replacement ladies about 4 weeks into flowering, they will have veged for 4 or 5 weeks and I could keep a continuous grow going.
3. ?

Any advice or comments would very welcome

[musikgenman]

I think you are absolutely right. In fact I found this 'active' (there are a few inactive forums out there) forum and all the positive people who share the same ideology as I do, right after I started. In that we make a great support team for each other. Without all the help I would have failed for sure.

I think that if you are trying to go with a perpetual grow, you are on a right track. I am about the same with mine, i germinated 4 more seed a little over a week ago in anticipation of harvest, so that when i harvested I had replacement plants to put in my flowering area. My plan is to harvest once a month, but in reality i still have a ways to get to that point. I feel like now that I pretty much have one grow almost completed, my confidence for the next grow is astounding.

Musik \\\vVv///

[OldMedMan]

Originally Posted by musikgenman

I think you are absolutely right. In fact I found this 'active' (there are a few inactive forums out there) forum and all the positive people who share the same ideology as I do, right after I started. In that we make a great support team for each other. Without all the help I would have failed for sure.

I think that if you are trying to go with a perpetual grow, you are on a right track. I am about the same with mine, i germinated 4 more seed a little over a week ago in anticipation of harvest, so that when i harvested I had replacement plants to put in my flowering area. My plan is to harvest once a month, but in reality i still have a ways to get to that point. I feel like now that I pretty much have one grow almost completed, my confidence for the next grow is astounding.

Musik \\\vVv///

Yep, perpetual grows just make sense to me. We are ready to jump right in and continue. Everything is set up so why not continue? And we can still try new strains and experiment along the way.

420 has stolen most of my time I just keep on finding things I want to read more about and try. I also feel much more confident too.
I still think much more about how and what I do now. Slowly eliminating all possible answers before acting. More comfortable is what I feel now.

Glad we'll be watching each other my friend.

Have great grow.