MacMota's Second Go - Poor Man Style

[KannabisKid]

They definitely are some happy looking ladies. Nice recovery. My MA peaked in height. Never measured her but I would guess about 3 - 3 1/2'. I would definitely recommend a little LST on some of the stems so the light can penetrate the canopy. Mine was extremely dense and had I followed through, I probably would have doubled the harvest. So many bud sites throughout that just didn't get enough light to grow and mature.

[MacMota]

Day 28.

Things are going to be a little different with this grow now. For one, we needed to move the grow indoors because we decided to purchase a washer and dryer. I got tired of hauling 50+ lbs of clothes to the laundry center and dropping $20 to wash our clothes and second, I wanted to make sure that we had a setup that was a little more easily climate-controlled and was more secure. Enter "The Grow Box". Taking some pages from this guy's grow journal, I fashioned a 45" H x 24" W x 18" D, grow box from items that can be purchased at your local hardware superstore.

First off, mad props to dfw-guy. His necessity for stealth inspired the genius in him and he has pulled off a fantastic stealth/closet grow. I'm truly inspired by his work and you will see much of it emulated here.

I started with 2 large moving boxes. I attached the two of them together with duct tape cut a large opening to access the plants. In the top of the box, I cut an opening for a vent fan and places to run the lighting cords through. Near the bottom, I have passive air intakes and I'm in the process of finding a place to put a bigger fan to circulate some air around in there and to strengthen the stems of our plants.

Now on to the lights. There are 8, 100 watt equivalent compact florescent light bulbs that offer 1600 lumen each and of which, 4 are 6500k light temp, 2 are 5000k light temp and 2 are 2700k light temp. In case you're wondering, that's a total of 12800 lumen. On a side note, I put the plants in the box last night and this morning, there was very noticeable growth on both plants. I'm gonna really have to keep an eye on these to make sure they don't burn our babies.

I know there's much more work to do, like get some form of mylar (prolly emergency blankets) and line the inside of the box for maximum light reflection, and I'm going to be making reflectors for each of the lights from some old soda cans lying around. I also have to fix some light leaks and figure out how to cover the passive air intakes to block light from them as well. We're totally open to suggestions so feel free to comment. I've included pictures below.

The Grow Box:




I didn't forget about the plants either, first up is the Mazar-Afghan. We're at 28 days with this one and as soon as we get the box straight, we're gonna switch to 12/12. It's looking very healthy and happy and I'm ready to make the switch.


Also, the bag seed is looking good, but...weird. The leaves are growing great going in one direction, but the leaves going the other way, well, they look like Nemo's little fin. I'm concerned that it's even going to flower.


So yeah, that's it for now. There's still a lot of work to be done but it'll happen. Thanks to everyone for stopping by and to all those who've hung in through the thick and the thin, we really do appreciate you all.

[jcool09]

Mac- you've gone totally DFW on us! We'll call you MacMota-guy from now on I love it. You don't need to waste a whole closet on your ladies. Do it small and do it right and you will get a better yield/ft2 anyway. Looks like you're on the way to getting a stable and comfortable home set up for your subjects. You have seen how this type of grow box can deliver a very happy ending so good luck and I will look forward to reading your future updates.

[OldMedMan]

Hi MacMota and Mrs MacMota
Now that's what I'm talking about
I am really happy about what your doing. Using other folks as inspiration is totally what 420's all about. You two are a great pair working together.
I hope it continues your whole lifetime. I think it will.
+Reps.

[MacMota]

Originally Posted by jcool09

Mac- you've gone totally DFW on us! We'll call you MacMota-guy from now on I love it. You don't need to waste a whole closet on your ladies. Do it small and do it right and you will get a better yield/ft2 anyway. Looks like you're on the way to getting a stable and comfortable home set up for your subjects. You have seen how this type of grow box can deliver a very happy ending so good luck and I will look forward to reading your future updates.

That's what I've been thinking for quite some time now, it's just that the funds and desire weren't enough to push us to do it. We've got it now and we're both super excited. Our next step is to put in the mylar and as soon as I've got it in, I'll get some pics on here.

Thanks for hanging around and we appreciate your comments.

Originally Posted by OldMedMan

Hi MacMota and Mrs MacMota
Now that's what I'm talking about
I am really happy about what your doing. Using other folks as inspiration is totally what 420's all about. You two are a great pair working together.
I hope it continues your whole lifetime. I think it will.
+Reps.

Right on Man, thanks for the feed back and the kind words.

I'm so ready to get this finished so we can switch to 12/12. On a side note, I read in another journal something about 11/13 for flowering. Does anyone know anything about this?

[Legalize09]

its all a matter of opinion....some think its better bc it has more of a dark period which is when all the sex hormones are going crazy...but like i said diff ppl find different results and its just up to whoever is growin...personally i just stick to 12/12

goodluck n cheers!

[MacMota]

I've added the mylar and have some pics. Also, we've discussed it, and since we're on day 29, we're going to switch to flowering tonight. I'm going to water them with some diluted flowering nutrients and switch the timer over to 12/12 when we hit the sack.

Here's the pics:



I like this last pic. It's not as hard on the eyes with the light being diffused by the fan blades. It makes it easier for me to peek in on the plants as well.

Originally Posted by Legalize09

its all a matter of opinion....some think its better bc it has more of a dark period which is when all the sex hormones are going crazy...but like i said diff ppl find different results and its just up to whoever is growin...personally i just stick to 12/12

goodluck n cheers!

Thanks for your input Legalize09. Every little bit helps. We've decided to stay at 12/12 seeing as we have yet to get a female so we have no basis to test results!

Thanks to everybody else for stopping by and for all of your input!

[MacMota]

Just a quick update, things have been crazy busy this week. I have fashioned some shades out of soda cans and have them in place. There are also dozens of new little leaves shooting off the main stems on both. I'll have to get some pics and put em up here.

That's it for now!

[MacMota]

Alright, time for a real post.

This is day 41. We've been flowering for nearly 2 weeks now and I'm still unsure of a sex for either plants. I don't see any signs of pollen sacks, but I'm not seeing any pistils or signs of female sex either.

I have a picture of the lights with the relectors on them. I fashioned them from soda cans that I got from work. It's pretty easy to make them, perhaps I should make a tutorial for those who are considering using this technique.

Anyway, here's the pic:


Okay, on the the plants. First is the Mazar-Afghan. It's on day 41 and I'm leaning toward it being a girl, but I don't want to jinx anything like on the last grow. There are several potential bud sites and I've taken some pictures of the undergrowth to show some. Also, the main cola site is looking fantastic. The way that the passive air intakes work on this box create a crosswind from the fan that blows the plants around like a fan was inside there with them. The stem is fat and thicker than a pencil.

Here's some pics:




Here's the bag seed. This little plant is only about half the size of the MA but, it's doing quite well in it's own right. It's on day 40 and is also showing some good bud sites. Since it's smaller, I'm not expecting too much from it but I'll take what I can get, ya know?

Pics of the bad seed:




Well that's it for now. What do you ya'll think? Are they girls?

Thanks guys!

[jcool09]

Originally Posted by MacMota

What do you ya'll think? Are they girls?

Mac, I'm not seeing any flowering activity. It is possible that the plants are too immature at 41 days to flower. Hang in there.

[MacMota]

Originally Posted by jcool09

Mac, I'm not seeing any flowering activity. It is possible that the plants are too immature at 41 days to flower. Hang in there.

Hey, that's cool. I think last time it was almost 60 days before we saw any signs of sex. I just don't want one to be a boy and it end up getting the girl pregnant.

[OldMedMan]

I couldn't tell either. Will say that growing teaches patience
Those reflectors are cool.
Everything is looking good you Two

[blacken]

poor man style rocks ^.^b

[KannabisKid]

Looking good Mac. Nice and healthy.

[MacMota]

Originally Posted by OldMedMan

I couldn't tell either. Will say that growing teaches patience
Those reflectors are cool.
Everything is looking good you Two

Thanks man! I agree. Patience is not necessarily my best virtue. I'm just wanting to get these things going and have awesome buds to take pics of and put up here.

Originally Posted by blacken

poor man style rocks ^.^b

I agree. This has really helped me understand what I need to do for my next grow box and how I need to put it together. I just need the funds to get there.

Originally Posted by KannabisKid

Looking good Mac. Nice and healthy.

Thank Kid. We both really appreciate your feedback.