marijuana and pregnancy

[Peacock]

Hi, A to be grandmother is concerned with her daughter in law is pregnant and smoking marijuana (the mother in law) sat and watched her daughter in law smoke 3 joints in a short time. the daughter in law also smokes cigarettes.
Does anyone know what the risks are.
Where may I find more info. on this subject.

Thanks

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[Ms.Fox]

Here's thread for you. ;-) thoughts on smoking pot during pregnancy Hopefully that helps. ;-)

EDIT: Here's a good one, too. Use of Marijuana during Pregnancy

[User]

if you go to this thread: The Healing Properties Of Cannabis - An Index and scroll down you'll find several posts about Cannabis & pregnancy.

grandkids are GREAT! Congradulations Grams 8-)

[LabRat]

When a mother to be won't give up smoking for the sake of her future child's health it sure doesn't bode well for the rest of that child's future. What else will she be so selfish with?

[The Prof]

I know plenty of women that have smoked marijuana during pregnancy and are GREAT mothers and have GREAT children... What right do you have to judge others??

[LabRat]

Originally Posted by The Prof

I know plenty of women that have smoked marijuana during pregnancy and are GREAT mothers and have GREAT children... What right do you have to judge others??

What right do I have to judge others??

No right. Just experience and common sense.

I've known plenty of women too. I'm still in touch with a dozen or so. I've changed diapers on plenty of their kids and know the kids now when they're in their late twenties. Some are great and some are great pains-in-the-ass.

The great kids had moms that were focused in at conception and made the kid to be their focus. The pains-in-the-ass all came from moms that thought they'd figure it out when the rug-rat showed up.

I was a single father for ten years after my son's mother f'd off, had another kid and dumped him when he was three. He's 14 now and reaching out to my sons, his half brothers.

I'm not saying a mom can't change. Just that it doesn't bode well for the child of a mom that can't sacrifice for her unborn baby.

I lived the life of a single parent immersed in the hell of trying to survive with a special needs boy, (ADHD), no money, no dope, no tobacco.

I went to lots of single parent groups were I was the only guy and got sick listening to the whiny women in the same mess as me that had to keep doing the same old, same old.

This guy beat me, this guy held me back, this guy wouldn't let me be me!

Meanwhile the kids were on the back-burner. As long as they could keep the next prospective father happy the kids better toe the line.

I've had women send their kids back to their fathers just so I would stay with them and not one asked me to get rid of my boys because they knew I'd toss them out in a second should they ask.

I never once asked them to move their children,

When the boy's mother left I made them a promise. They would always come first, and I would always be there for them. I kept my promise.

I talked to my oldest last night. He's 28.

The last thing we said to each other was ... I Love You.

I've seen enough to know that a prospective mother that won't dump her poisonous habits, (I'm talkin' tobacco, ****, ****, prescription drugs and booze but pot probably isn't good either when you've got a bun in the oven), long enough to try to give a leg-up to her unborn child is not likely to be there later to help them when they're trying to deal with the developmental problems that are causing so many problems in school, work, life.

I'm a 54 yo grandpa watching my oldest deal with an autistic son, cheating wife and a one year old. My youngest lives with a **** head and they're having their second boy destined for foster care like the first.

I think that maybe the scars I have that will never heal give me some insight to the chances of kids born to mothers that not only smoke pot but the demon weed, tobacco or any number of other drugs including those prescribed by doctors.

Pot has been proven to be harmless to developing young.

Tobacco has been proven to mess up a good thing.

The rest of them really mess stuff up.

Peace

[greenisland]

No its probably not a good idea to be inhaling smoke in any shape or form while your pregnant. However if you were to take a hit or two a week its not going to hurt you or your baby. You inhaling more toxins and cancerous particles when you walk down the street during rush hour. Compared to all the smoke and pollution you inhale on a daily basis a toke of pot is extremally miniscule. And to say that this is something you learn in 4th grade is crazy. It may have been something they TOLD you in fourth grade but your also still being told Santa Clause is real. In fourth grade I had those D.A.R.E morrons come to class and lie lie lie! When I got older and found out all the lies those people told and passed them off as "facts" I was furious. To say that because someone takes a hit of pot when they are pregnant makes them a bad parent is just as ridiculous as Santa Clause dropping down peoples chimeneys on Christmas! Somking pot DOES NOT make you a bad parent, Im sorry. If you need proof of this, look in Jamaica, where a huge percentage of parents smoke and has no ill effects on their children. In fact studies have shown the exact opposite as you state, and show that in kids born to parents who DONT smoke are actually at a higher risk for being easily bothered , hyperactive and have tendencies of attention deficit disorder as well as concentration issues. I doubt that this implies that its more healthy for a parent to smoke but instead implies that its beneficial to the parent (and child) if the parent is eating sleeping and in a generally happy disposition, or any other wonderfull things smoking can help with. A HUGE benefit being its ability to stop morning sickness in its tracks with many women and help with cramps and pains as well. No... smoking is never a great idea when your pregnant (or not for that matter) but what abt eating pot? Or vaporising it? To say that if you smoke pot and you are a parent or expecting parent means that you dont care about your kids,.. and your a bad parent is just simply false. I know many parents and non-parents who would be simply appauled to hear such a ridiculouse statement. Dont get me wrong, everyone is entitled to their opinion. However I have never seen your statements to be true, and neither has anyone else I know. Cannabis users would die for their kids and LOVE them just as much as anyone else would. Marijuana=happiness and love, not bad parenting. Bad Parenting=Bad parenting

[User]

Please check your state's child protection laws before deciding to use Cannabis during pregnancy.

[BWC BayArea]

Originally Posted by User

Please check your state's child protection laws before deciding to use Cannabis during pregnancy.

I agree User, as well as do the research and present ur findings to ur son or them both as a couple. as for the cigarettes, she know's better. I know of the struggle to kick the butt in the butt. I always thought women were designed with an innate instinct to protect their children. Smoking cigarettes while pregnant....well I don't wanna come off judgmental. If I were ur son, I'd take her cigs, grind them up, and make an insecticide out of them 4 the garden, EVERY TIME I found them. My 2 cents. God bless that child.

[Aussiebonger]

Wow labrat you've put up with a lot of shit, thats the differance between a FATHER and a sperm doner. I have a lot of respect for you, a man that puts his children first. Thats how my dad was/is with me and how i am with my son. Not 420 related but needed to be said. All the best labrat.+rep

[greenisland]

Cigarettes are not concidered "ok" by me. There just downright nasty anyways. And obviously every parent should put their child first. But to say that if you smoke pot you automatically dont care about your child is just stupid. Its no different than having a glass of wine at night, it wont hurt you or the child if done in moderation. You run into problems when you have mothers who are addicted to **** and alcohol, and concistantly use hard drugs and really DONT care about their kids. Look at the research, and not the biased government funded crap either. The evidence from those studies show that vaporising and eating a small amount of pot ISNT BAD FOR YOU OR YOUR BABY. People need to realise that a mother who isnt sleeping and who isnt holding down food isnt doing the baby or herself any favors, pot helps with these things . In this case injesting pot translates into benefits for the mother and the CHILD. Think about this....., smoking pot is safer than taking a Tylenol! Or advil or any other over the counter "drug". And taking tylenol is something that noone has issues with, hell they have Tylenol and Aspiren FOR babies! Its just the idea that someone is "using drugs" that people dont like, but we need to start relising pot is medicinal and in fact this "drug" is helping people every day, pregnant and not. If it was harming babies we would see reports of this by now, we have a huge percentage of pregnant women smoking every year and yet still there is no such thing as fetal marijuana syndrome or anything like that. There would be something like that if pot was creating problems during pregnancy. I have heard doctor after doctor say that if it helps than keep doing it. I have yet to hear a Dr say Absolutally NO smoking pot when your pregnant. Instead you hear "if it works for what your using it for, keep using it!". This is the kind of problem we (the marijuana counterculture, and any free thinking society) have had to deal with for years, the idea that if you smoke pot your a dirty hippie treehugger whos unmotivated and lazy. These stereotypes have been disproven time and time again and yet you still have people trying to say things like "if you smoke pot your a BAD parent". Thats just ridiculously close minded of someone to say and just as untrue as all the other stereo types we fight against every day! All these people who say they would "never" do anything to hurt their child probably took Tylenol and all kinds of other drugs and never thought twice about it. But when you get to pot its all of a sudden, "ohhh nooo, drugs are bad!" Well did you drink caffiene when you were pregnant? did you take tylenol or ibuprofen? It doesnt make you any better of a parent or any more "loving" to take tylenol or drink a soda or coffee while your pregnant than it does if you were to ingest pot. Im not suggesting a pregnant women should go out and get "baked" every single night but, if it helps her be healthy (ie:sleep and eat, and NOT get sick) than it shouldnt be treated any different than tylenol or aspiren or anything else thats seen as "ok". Simple as that! To all those parents out there who have smoked and have had a child, dont worry, not everyone is biased and prejudiced in this feild. I know your a good parent! Most of everyone on here would say your a good parent. Dont let someone convince you your a BAD parent because you happen to smoke (responsibly) when you were pregnant or after pregnancy. Marijuana smokers MAKE GREAT PARENTS. Beleive me, I should know, Im one of those babies, and I grew up just fine!!!!!! lol... This is one of those topics that everyone has an opinion on, and these conversations are usually pretty heated. And its probably always going to raise a few hairs when you try and tell someone how to raise their child, and/or that they are a bad parent. I just want people to get a different perspective than that coming from labrat, probably the more popular perspective too. And to be honest this is the only forum thread I have seen, that has people apposed to responsible cannabis use when your pregnant. I have never had issues with crack or been around such people so I cannot talk on any of those like labrat can but I have been around a lot of pot smoking parents. Check out some of the links earlier in this thread and look at THE FACTS from those studies. They pretty much put an end to this debate with facts. Need I say more??...

[Lil Neutrino]

Originally Posted by LabRat

Pot has been proven to be harmless to developing young.

Tobacco has been proven to mess up a good thing.

The rest of them really mess stuff up.

Peace

I would have to agree (tried to rep you for that post but couldn't)...my mother smoked weed while pregnant with me, other family members did the same with their kids, and I have friends' whose wives smoked while pregnant and we all turned out at worst OK. I'm not saying they got stupid high 24-7 while pregnant but smoking a bit isn't going to harm the child, in fact I'd go out on a limb and say that most people I know whose parents smoked weed while pregnant turned out to be pretty intelligent kids.

A pregnant mother who can't stop smoking cigarettes, drinking, or anything else proven to be harmful to an unborn child shouldn't be having that child...but that's going on to another subject that is a bit OT. Suffice to say some people simply should not be allowed to breed, screw being PC. Not everyone is created equally, I don't care what anyone else thinks or what the law says...it's a simple fact, some people should not procreate.

I know one person who is pregnant right now with her second child and while she stopped smoking during her first pregnancy and has for the second as well she should never have had any children in the first place imho. She has major depression, is on all kinds of anti-anxiety/anti-depressants (I think she's tried everything), always going to a psychiatrist (newest diagnosis is Asberger's Syndrome), always trying to get her meds to work right, always having mental issues, and so on. She is a nice person and all but she is royally F'd up in the head and it runs in her family...pretty good chance her children will have similar issues as well but hopefully they'll take after their father as he's much more stable.

Bottom line, smoking a bit of weed during pregnancy is probably not going to harm the child. I would be hesitant to say smoke it up all evening every day but a few puffs before bed isn't going to hurt.

[greenisland]

Just to be clear Im talking about ingesting pot for a purpose. Not just getting high for recreational reasons. Im saying it has a place in pregnancy for morning sickness and other proven medical reasons. With that said I think that it would probably be best if Peackocks daughter in law stopped everything, cause it seems like shes smoking in excess, and theres just nothing good that can come out of smoking large amounts of cigarettes and joints like that. Or atleast completally cut out the cigs and cut down cignificantly on the pot and use a vaporizer or eat it(remember small amounts with PURPOSE) Although I dont think its all that big of a deal if like I said you only take a hit (preferably vapor mind you) like once a month. While recreational smoking probably should be discouraged all together, its always good to keep yourself happy too! And PS: I dont think that beating your pregnant wife is a great idea either Blubullet! lol, Even if she is smoking cigarettes. lol