Pain Contracts vs. Cannabis

[tintala]

Hey race; they forced that on you? WOW! i was begging for one when I became disabled, I was already using cannabis rec and medicanally as well. my doc told me he would never piss me coz I "SHOULD" be using pot to keep the number of pills i take , DOWN. VERY COOL And understanding DOC!I have had a contract for about 4 years now. it wuld appear I am a lifer...

[PFlynn]

I just got my card and was honest about the pills and the amounts and he told me it's proven to keep the amount of pills down. Everything wrong with me is just lumped up to chronic pain condition but I didn't have to piss or anything.

[Racefan]

Originally Posted by tintala

Hey race; they forced that on you? WOW! i was begging for one when I became disabled, I was already using cannabis rec and medicanally as well. my doc told me he would never piss me coz I "SHOULD" be using pot to keep the number of pills i take , DOWN. VERY COOL And understanding DOC!I have had a contract for about 4 years now. it wuld appear I am a lifer...

Yeah this doctor is strange. Remember though, the VA is a federal organization and they follow federal laws. Her husband was my doctor before her and he was cool as hell about it. When I told him about my medical MJ use he immediatley documented it in my chart in case I ran into legal trouble I had verification of discussion. (<--his words) His wife freaked out over losing her job or some BS. She cut me off my op*ate meds for 2 days and demanded I see her. She then stated that I had two choices..sign the contract and get my meds refilled or not and go through a withdrawl. I mentioned the sickness and she said oh...I'll admit you but you will be sick, just monitored.lol So I told her I was signing it under duress and that my cannabis use would not stop. She never replied and it took her 5 years to piss me. She never said anything about the test and I know it was dirty as hell. I've medicated with cannabis every day for the last 9 years straight. not one day missed. not even during hospital stays. I wheeled my butt out to the parking lot and lit up. Took skill with a catheter bag and iv stand but I did it. I even had a nurse take me and my bed out to the smoking section under the impression I needed a cigarette (I'd quit smoking 2 years before) and asked her to leave me for a hour. I medicated there too.lol Where there's a will, there's a way. I always got comments when I returned about how much more relaxed and happier I was. I'm sure the docs and nurses smelled it on me. I didn't care. It helped.

[Weed420]

Yep you just have to learn how to play the game.

[vanceredwood]

i have a pain contract with kiaser and the last doc they sent me to said i was lying about my pain,4 disc fused in my neck,arthritis and chronic head aches,this doc. would not review my records so i am currently seeking another opinion and plan to file a greavence with kiaser.there cure for me is morphine,and they wonder why people hate the medical extablishment...just thinking of these id$*ts makes my head hurt

[BayAreaStoner]

I dont know if I mentioned earlier that I go to Kaiser as well... I know exactly the attitude your talking about that u got from that Kaiser Doctor. I dont know where u live but here BEFORE i hooked up with my current dr (at kaiser)
So before i found this dr i have now I didnt hae a "primary care doctor" and I didnt have a regular one because NONE of them would listen to me and I too was told on SO MANY (countless) times that I was lying about my pain, and I was called a drug seeker, I was told I was only having rebound head aches and even when I had a kidney stone,and I couldnt pee, I had a dr tell me that he DID NOT BELIEVE ME (that I couldnt urrinate)... Kaiser drs.(most) are absolutely horrible and rude and have no bedside manner. I am still with kaiser but only because the doctor I found worked with me and my pain and he listens and talks to me and BELIVES ME! lol... but it took me ALOOOONG time to find him. I honestly dont really like Kaiser but I am used to it and have been going there sine I was born... I know how u feel...and I am sorry that u have been treated that way, they shouldnt treat ANY patient like they dont "believe" them. Again I am sorry u are going through those things.. I feel your pain...

[michaelkaer]

I have only found one other person who has the exact same problem I have and uses MMJ.
I have found hundreds have the same type of pain. I have other friends who smoke, that just can't keep up to me and I know there are many more out there that could smoke me under the table. How much does not matter.