No Mercy Supply 12/12hours 7 harvests a year system

[Smokin Moose]

Cees, here is your image.

[Boss]

Sticky 5 Star :-)

[atmosphere2]

Also grown without veg period

[dyers maker]

So I just starded my second grow
Its a small 2x2x7 closet grow under a 200w hps
Strawberry Cough, Nyc Diesel, Hash Plant and Buddha

My first two seeds are 1week 1/2 old and they have already more than 4 leaf nodes

Now my question is, I understand that with the 12/12 you only use flowering nutes but when do i start using them? Do I just leave them be until they show sex or should i feed them something at this point?

Thanks for all the info SpeesCees it was very educative

[Boss]

From week 1.5 to week 2 I use just the soil I mix myself with organic trace nutes, perlite, pete, and worm castings. at week 1.5 or 2 I add a 4-4-4 and full str sea tea, till they show sex at 20-25 days. Then its all about organic flowering nutes.

[dyers maker]

Thanks Boss, will do then
to the shop tomorrow.


FIsh MEal and kelp fine?

[Boss]

Yep, it's a good low dose N :-)

[dyers maker]

all i found at the store that was organic is neptune's fish meal and kelp
will that be enough or should i order some stuff?

[zolar]

assuming i want seeds for a later grow what is the minimun time to get a viable seed with a 65-80 day flower cycle strain i'd rather have seeds for tomorrows grow for free than get get super prettysuper
sinse and cope witth real good and more to come for time and waterand a little cleaning

[atmosphere2]

Originally Posted by dyers maker

all i found at the store that was organic is neptune's fish meal and kelp
will that be enough or should i order some stuff?

good question . Try to find out how much time certain organic ferts take to release thier nutes . a lot of organic ferts release thier P pretty slowly ,to slow to fully provide plants in small amounds of soil .

[dyers maker]

So how would i go about that Atmosphere 2?
Is that information provided by manufactures?

Im trying to figure out what to get since my choices locally are very limited or if i should just buy some nutes online

[Smokin Moose]

The time factor for breakdown of nutes is not usually provided by the manufacturers. There are too many factors involved, such as temp and ph of medium.

[amrad]

I'm switching over to 12/12 it just makes sense.
One simple question, how tall do most sativas stretch, just an average, with this method? From top of bud to bottom of stem where roots start?
I'm planing a new grow closet and need this info to plan dimentions. Thanks, excellent no bullshit threat, Cees you da man!

[SpeesCees]

Well..... I don't feel like I'm the man.
It's just like 1 plus 1 = 2.

Sativa's are the best plants to work with a 12/12 system... they will not stretch that hard.

SpeesCees.

[amrad]

Yep, that could be. But sometimes people get caught in a certain way of doing things and cant think out of the box.
I mean really, this is the way nature dos it. Plus if you were a breeder you'd get a lot more generations in a lot less time. Making it faster to isolate and stablalize traits.
I would imagine, not being a breeder ha ha.
Cees I'm thinking that with good lighting most sativas should only grow about 40 to 50 cm with this method. Do you think this is about right?