marijuana rights movement going back in time

[lost201a]

Originally Posted by Vexer

Really torturedsoul I would have thought it was because a few companies own most of the tv stations and of course they all support the government, just like the oil and drug companies cause they're all big business.

Lost you gotta understand something. All MJ is illegal, even industral hemp. Hemp is the world's biggest cash crop and can be used to make meds, food, cloths, paper, gas, and the list goes on and on.

Where can I find more about this? Is it money corrupting the congressman and senators or lack of activists ?

You would think the liberals would be all over this thay are all over abortion and same sex and gay rights movement so on.

Now if they made it legal what do you think would happen to these big paper, oil, and drug companies. They would probally go under cause industral hemp is way better and cheaper to produce. So these companies know this so they have lobbiests. Who in congress try to keep it the way it is. The great thing is lobbiests can say hey vote no on bill 420 and we'll "donate" a few thousand dollars to your non-charity group. Oh yea and the drug lords send money to these lobbiests in congress as well. Causes if they did make drugs legal, these drug lords would lose millions.

So you saying the corporations give the congressman and senators money? What about interest groups like church groups ,groups anti-smoking and drinking ,anti-drug use so on..

The US is a christian county and very religious.

Oh yea the great war on drugs. Let me break that down. Spend more money and arrest more people. Well at the end of the year our pockets are empty, our jails are full, and we now have a drug problem in this country worse then its ever been. The government is fully aware of this. They just make more money destroying lives then repairing them. This government is a BIG BUSINESS. lol end rant.

The BUSINESS yes BUSINESS will proft on high prision population the tax payers will not.

[Vexer]

Yea and the past 9 years has shown that the us government cares about the taxpayer alright lol.

Yea they give em money and get away with it. Cause it's not a bribe for a company to drop a thousands dollars on a political campaign or just give it to said persons schools and so on.

Check out this site: Marijuana Conspiracy - by Dough Yurchey And if you wanna read more about big businesses influence on our government I suggest you read The Rise of the Fourth Reich, by Jim Marrs. Great book and its very informative.

[TorturedSoul]

Originally Posted by lost201a

The US is a christian county and very religious.

That's the funniest thing I've seen on the internet all weekend.

Maybe it is at first glance, but if you sit and read just about any "official" religious tome that you care to pick up from any established religion, and then really look around, you'll change your mind about the US (govt.) being Christian - or relious.

Paying lip service and having a catchy phrase on its paper money doesn't count.

[lost201a]

See my other thread .I doubt that .There are too many countries where it is illegal. I can see big business interest in US if it was legal would go under .But all those countries it just too conspiracy they would have control over goverment.


I think the main reason it is it is still Illegal is it is viewed has vice. Now there may still be some business that want it to still keep it Illegal in the US but you got to understand the US.


The kicker ****** and ******* was legal in the US before the Harrison Act, 1914: .The US was very libertarian the free-market ,small goverment ,small police ,small army ,no bailouts ,no business in government ,separation church and state.

The 1919 to 1933 Prohibition was wave in US on vice any thing to do with vice .From that point on business and the church played a big role in goverment.After ww2 the US had big army and become super power .Alot of people say the US is so big and powerful and big army and big super power and tell other countries what to do much like the USSR this was not the case before. It was the neoconservatives thinking and thought after ww2 and was the birth of big super power and army .The US took the side line before ww2 and hate wars very bad , did not want a big army and that change after ww2.

The 60's and 70's was the sex revolution and big conflits of old views and new views .You dare not cought before the 60's in blue jeans or t-shirt other than working on the farm , blue ripped jeans was a no no ,no girl would wear jeans or pants ,,no girl would look or dress like a man ,sexism was big ,jeans and other casual wear was considered rebelious and not acceptable.

The 80's and 90's was change of divorce and common-law that was not acceptable before.President Richard Nixon in 1969 made a campaign to be tough on crime ,war on drugs and this was birth of the prisons and cops .In much the same way the US was weak and did not like wars or have big army to ww2 .

Now do to President Richard Nixon we have moe people in jail or prison than any other country.Than Bush came along and we have more business in goverment ,wars ,conflits .big army ,big police so on.

Thoese neoconservatives putting congressman and senators on wall street and church in goverment and claim they have high moral but brake every card the church teaches.

In 30 years the US has had only 3 terrorists attack and yet they claim it is happing every day , they claim there is robbery ,B&E or car theft on your street every weak ,they claim other countries want to do harm to the US.This all a war like mind Nazi Germany use and now the US is using it for police state and for business and control.

Other thing read the news paper ,or TV CNN,FOX ,or the radio the medail outlets is obsession of crime and war .Even cities where crime like robbery ,B&E ,car theft ,shooting or killing is not gone up 2X or 3x but the news on TV or the radio is you need AT&T or onstar for you house and car .Need more cops and more jails. A war like mind of war and crime .Big army and big police force.

In the movies and TV programs a obsession of cops and robbers ,homicide ,crime .vice,sin ,evile and good.

[Vexer]

Lost you reliaze that 3 companies own all the tv stations right. The news in this country is so biased its not even funny. This country doesn't have the freedom of press anymore. Americans know less of whats actually happening in the world then most people around the world. I heard somewhere that more outside news about whats going on in the world gets into China then it does here. Thats kinda scary considering china is a communist country, and this is suppose to be land of the free ha.

[merickson]

Originally Posted by Vexer

Who's lives are getting destroyed cause they cant marry a same sex partner.

The woman who is being deported because she can't marry her (citizen) partner.

The kids who are being taken from their second dad of many years (bio-dad's partner) after bio-dad dies.

MMJ is moving along quite nicely. (Could be better.)

The difference between gay rights and non-med. MJ is that gay is not voluntary.

[lost201a]

I did not want it to sound like we are anti-gay here but I'm just puzzled has to why the media and the government is more warm and cosy to gay rights movement but marijuana rights movement does NOT it the news and no one talks about it.

There is no debates in government or on the news and no one talks about it and this not the case with the gay rights movement .Where is the marijuana pride or protest like gay pride or protests.

Also I was just saying in the other thread it is too conspiracy for marijuana to be illegal do to businesses or the prison industrial complex. May be the case in the US but other countries seems too conspiracy .

I'm also puzzled has to the small marijuana rights movement wave in 2002 ,2003 ,2004 and 2005 and than died down. And than there was talk in Canada back than and now they do not talk about it.

[TorturedSoul]

Originally Posted by lost201a

I did not want it to sound like we are anti-gay here but I'm just puzzled has to why the media and the government is more warm and cosy to gay rights movement but marijuana rights movement does NOT it the news and no one talks about it.

There is no debates in government or on the news and no one talks about it and this not the case with the gay rights movement .Where is the marijuana pride or protest like gay pride or protests.

Being homosexual is not illegal. While painting yourself pink and jumping around flamboyantly in a parade might garner you some attention, the anti-discrimination laws would probably do a lot to protect your job and even your lifestyle.

I imagine that a lot of folks who live the MJ life do not want any attention since there are NO anti-discriminatory laws for them. Additionally, although taking part in a MJ demonstration is NOT grounds for a search of their premises by either the LEO or (if applicable) their landlords, most people who grow (or even possibly just consume) MJ take pains to stay well below the radar. Especially in small town areas where getting noticed would mean that they would be remembered.

So, many people are faced with the choice of having MJ in their lives OR being an MJ activist. Sad, but there you go.

[l8tnightskunk]

WE just have to be persistent untill we get what we want and that is legal mj! we will overcome! sooner or later! hopefully soon! we are close!

[Vexer]

Or we could just go find a deserted island and move out there and grow ganja for the rest of our lives lol.

[lost201a]

May be the moderator should move this thread some where else ? I may get more replies?

There seems to be a lack of activist here .

[lost201a]

Anyone got the news about the Obama talk about marijuana ?

It is not the first time news outlets and the media love sensation and bias reports.Look how they report crime they love the sensation and bias reports on crime. Why so people get alarms for their house and car like AT@T and on-star. And justified getting new cops ,building new police stations ,new equipment and bigger police budget.Along with tougher laws and more prisons and jails.


I'm not surprised marijuana is illegal when look at the goverment cracking down along with interest groups on tobacco and alcohol use .Also most other countries in world are 16 or 18 and in the US is 21.

Look how the goverment is cracking down on sex . The only places in the world very progressive is Amsterdam and bangkok.