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Old 09-03-2009, 06:03 PM   #46
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Ok I dont know what is going on.!@#$%^&* When I right click on photo to insert into post, I dont get a properties box, I just get an image properties. So I just copy and paste images link into post and i get the above links. At least you can see them if you click on them. I am using Opera browser and thats probably why things are a little different.
Are you clicking the icon that looks like mountains on a yellow background or the icon that looks like the earth with a chain link in front of it? You want the yellow one.

Clones all lined up in a row. The cloth that you cover the light hood with, it isn't flammable?
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When I got home tonight, I checked root progress on the floater and to my amazement there was a tiny root protruding from the bottom of the diagnol cut about 1/8" long. Yippie!!! I will try this upload thing again, but I am still not getting the properties box and yea I did click on the yellow square w mountains. Well here it goes http://www.420magazine.com/gallery/d...03-09_2304.jpg
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Ok getting closer but still cant see the picture in the post, but the link is there. I bet it has something to do with my browser. As for the cover over the lights, its a trash bag and its probably flamable. I have a resettable hi limit switch in series with the load right next to the ballast as if the temperature gets to 140 degrees the switch breaks the circuit. I have a couple of t-stats in and aroung the fixture and the temp never gets above 80 degrees under the make shift hood and above 90 right above the top of the fixturethe fixture. I think the reaso it runs so cool is that my exhaust from my grow room is moving air over the whole thing. I tested and checked temps before I even started the whole thing. So far so good.
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Re: Wick Cloner: simple, cheap, and effective

Munki... in a few of your photos, your clones look like they may have been taken from a plant already flowering.
Taking flowering clones is ok, but you have to wait extra time while the plants shift back to vegging stage, then grow roots.

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Munki... in a few of your photos, your clones look like they may have been taken from a plant already flowering.
Taking flowering clones is ok, but you have to wait extra time while the plants shift back to vegging stage, then grow roots.

Just a random thought.

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I agree that it does take longer for the plant tissues to change their hormonal balance to go from flowering to veg to ultimately grow roots but I've heard that this can shorten internodal lengths on the clones; a valuable trait in indoor growing.
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Ok getting closer but still cant see the picture in the post, but the link is there. I bet it has something to do with my browser. As for the cover over the lights, its a trash bag and its probably flamable. I have a resettable hi limit switch in series with the load right next to the ballast as if the temperature gets to 140 degrees the switch breaks the circuit. I have a couple of t-stats in and aroung the fixture and the temp never gets above 80 degrees under the make shift hood and above 90 right above the top of the fixturethe fixture. I think the reaso it runs so cool is that my exhaust from my grow room is moving air over the whole thing. I tested and checked temps before I even started the whole thing. So far so good.
Sounds OK until there is a fan failure when you are not home. Would a fire possibly break out and destroy everything? May want to think of a safer solution.
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but I've heard that this can shorten internodal lengths on the clones; a valuable trait in indoor growing.
Wow! Nice to know. Thanks!
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Wow! Nice to know. Thanks!
It is what I read; still gaining experience.
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Re: Wick Cloner: simple, cheap, and effective

Thanks for the info on the shortened internodal length, I hope that is the case as my internode lenghts were a bit too long. I'm not sure why but my theory is that the upper canopy was shadowing the lower branches coupled with a little bit highr temps that I wanted. Also I kind of new that it would take a little longer to get back to veg state. Right now my room is full of plants and I was trying to buy another couple of weeks until I started another cycle. I actually let the plants in my grow room veg to around 24" but that was way too tall. In the 3rd week of flowering, they are towering around 50" or so. Whats your take? Oh and thanks for the simple clone set up idea and you got me rethinking the cover idea. My main reason for the cover was to prevent ambient light getting into my 12/12 room where my grow room is located and the 6" exhaust fan will let light in. But your right, better safe than sorry..Thx man
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Thanks for the info on the shortened internodal length, I hope that is the case as my internode lenghts were a bit too long. I'm not sure why but my theory is that the upper canopy was shadowing the lower branches coupled with a little bit highr temps that I wanted. Also I kind of new that it would take a little longer to get back to veg state. Right now my room is full of plants and I was trying to buy another couple of weeks until I started another cycle. I actually let the plants in my grow room veg to around 24" but that was way too tall. In the 3rd week of flowering, they are towering around 50" or so. Whats your take? Oh and thanks for the simple clone set up idea and you got me rethinking the cover idea. My main reason for the cover was to prevent ambient light getting into my 12/12 room where my grow room is located and the 6" exhaust fan will let light in. But your right, better safe than sorry..Thx man
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I wish I could find the source of the taking cuttings early in flower to reduce internode distance, but haven't been able to lately.
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Re: Wick Cloner: simple, cheap, and effective

Just came back from a little vacation and checked on the clones. Wow, I will definitely say success on three of them. The internodal spacing is very tight on them so there definitely appears to be something to taking cuttings from plants in flower.

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that is truly amazing how nicely your cutting are coming along, good job
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Very Nice! It looks like thay are happy. How big were the initial cuttings that you took for thos girls? Do I see 4 or 5 there?

I planted my cuttings two days ago and so far so good. I think I used smaller cuttings as my little girls are only about 3" tall. It looks like they got a green spurt from the soil that I planted them in. I'll try to get pic going again...
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Very Nice! It looks like thay are happy. How big were the initial cuttings that you took for thos girls? Do I see 4 or 5 there?

I planted my cuttings two days ago and so far so good. I think I used smaller cuttings as my little girls are only about 3" tall. It looks like they got a green spurt from the soil that I planted them in. I'll try to get pic going again...
There are 5 in there. Really, this was just an experiment but it is hard to get rid of them. I just don't know what to do with them now.

Some of the cuttings were only a couple of inches long but some others had an extra inch or two. None were really big like I've seen others do. So, I would say that many cuttings will grow if given enough time.
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Re: Wick Cloner: simple, cheap, and effective

All five clones did root. One was a bit sickly, so I pulled it. I used a large spoon to dig down into the soil and cut cylinder like sections of dirt around the root areas and re-potted three of them. The remaining one got more dirt.

A fresh batch (1 gallon) of the vitamin B-1 fert was mixed up with half filtered tap water and half RO water at two tablespoons to the gallon. Half of that was used to water the pots down.











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