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Old 04-10-2008, 10:08 PM   #1
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HELP! I just broke my main stem!

Today was the day to untie my plant. I've had her tied down for a week, with the top tied down lower than all the other branches. I woke up this morning, untied her (by now she has quite a thick stem), and proceeded to bend the main stem back & forwards, like i've done before. But as I was stretching her up straight again, she snapped! Not completely off! But most of the way thru the main stem!
If she was upright and not bent over, she'd be about 11" tall. The break in the stem happened about 3"1/2 up from the bottom. There are a few branches below the snap, as well as MANY branches above!

What I've done, is gently tied her down again, pulling the whole plant over so she's leaning on her wound. There is very little, if no split that can be seen now that I've tied her over again (ever so slightly)

I'll try & wake up my house-mate so I can get a picture up here and point out exactly where the break in the stem is, and show how I've tried to help her, help herself
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Old 04-10-2008, 10:27 PM   #2
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Re: HELP! I just broke my main stem!

PS .. today is the day I was planning put her on 12/12
Should I leave her on 22/2 and give her recovery time before going to 12/12 ?

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I also gave her a shower/hose-down with some rain-water, delivered by a squirtee bottle. I figured the extra water molecules might help her out a bit with the recovery/repair

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Old 04-10-2008, 11:11 PM   #3
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Re: HELP! I just broke my main stem!

I guess the question is: will she be able to repair herself? and if not, should I take as many clones as I possibly can off her now, and bin the rest?

I'm off to work now. I'll be back on here in about 7 hours

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Re: HELP! I just broke my main stem!

Take a couple clones to keep the genes in stock. I've survived similar damage by splinting the break. I used a tooth pick and some masking tape.(masking is easier to remove latter)
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I've had that happen too, you'll be fine if you tape her up well. Scotch tape is good too.
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Re: HELP! I just broke my main stem!

Thanks guys I know she gon be alright now! Just got back from work, she's looking great!
I'll get that tape on asap

Lol at your bezerk top Joe thats cool ey

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Old 04-11-2008, 07:09 AM   #7
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Re: HELP! I just broke my main stem!

You may hurt the plant more while applying tape.. let her be and she will do some mother nature shit and really suprise you :-)
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Re: HELP! I just broke my main stem!

I cant find any tape in the house anyway
might just leave her for 24 hours, then untie her, she'll be right ;-)
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Re: HELP! I just broke my main stem!

Don't untie her for at least 48 hours. You will be able to tell by the brown and green line you will see soon. They heal fast, but it's the main stem and you want it to start to swell before you untie it. You will end up with a fat spot in the stem there, and that's no problem.
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Re: HELP! I just broke my main stem!

Some growers purposely break the inner hurd of the plant. This technique is known as "super-cropping" and it does allow for increased water and nutrient uptake past the breakage point. The only danger is when the outer "skin" is broken there is a chance of disease (yes plants can get infections). However, the plant naturally seals off cuts rather quickly by forming a scab over the wound. It would stand to reason that your plant will be fine.
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Re: HELP! I just broke my main stem!

If tape is needed use electrical tape over some of the others, masking tape is the worse. The reason for electrical tape is that it stretches some as the plant grows and won't cut off or restrict circulation eventually. If it doesn't stretch some when you pull on it, it's not the best choice.
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Re: HELP! I just broke my main stem!

It's been said before but just leave it alone and it will repair itself - pretty much can't keep it from it, lol. These plants want to grow, in spite of what we do to them. I normally have to bend many branches over if I'm growing a sativa. May not have to this time. Looks like vertical growth has stopped about 12-18 inches from the lights, hehe. I don't support them at all when I kink them unless it's to lay them on another branch for support. Within a couple of days, they've healed for the most part and they even beef up the site of the accident, lol.

Remember this though, so it doesn't freak you out. If it was the top cola that was bent over and it's now lower than the side buds, one of the side buds is now gonna get the signal to grow and one of them will try to become the new top dog, lol. Enzymes and hormones at work, hehe.


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Re: HELP! I just broke my main stem!

Now I am confused (again). When I super-cropped my sativa, I did the outside branches during veg and the main stem in flowering. When I did the main stem, the outside grew up, and when I did the others, the top seemed to grow up.

I thought by cropping the main stem you were slowing the main stem and giving the bulk of the grow to the other branches.. So it helps whatever stem you crop to grow more huh.. strange. I could have sworn in the video the growth was stimulated on the front side of the crop, not the backside. (in front of the bend, and behind it)
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Re: HELP! I just broke my main stem!

I will hunt it and send you the link, it's in tv i think. Here is one.

http://www.420magazine.com/forums/ge...-tutorial.html

The first video is super cropping and second looks like topping or Fim.

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Re: HELP! I just broke my main stem!

Well, it was my understanding that by bending the stem, you in effect put a "Kink" in the hose that carries water and nutrients. This increases pressure to the rest of the plant, just like it would increase pressure in a regular hose. This in effect would increase growth to all portions of the plant, except on the other side of the supercrop bend. After the bend heals, it is stronger then it was before, and allows normal uptake.

So is this just a wrong anaylsis?
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