I know your still fooling with different stuff to grow with. I have moved forward with organic till I feel like I am in a good place with it. Get good yields too. Just thinking of doing a side by side using the same soil but without my main nitrogen source (poultry manure) using OC+. Hitting it with the usual teas at the same time I do my regular organic ferts. Going to irk me some if the OC+ stomps my organic ferts.