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1st Grow - 2 x Vision Northern Lights Auto/Fem - Coco - 2 x Mars Hydro 300W LEDs

infiniteJuan

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Hi all, first time grower/poster here at 420Mag. I've learned a lot from reading here and thought I'd start a journal of my own. Thanks to all of you who've shared your experiences and helped those of us who are new to this growing game. I'm in week 5 of my grow and will catch this journal up ASAP. Any and all comments and questions are very much appreciated. Cheers.

So, here goes...

Strain - Vision Northern Lights Autoflowering Feminized (Herbies Seeds)
Lights - (2) 300w Mars Hydro LEDs pulling about 130w each
Tent - 34" x 34" x 64"
Containers - Started each in solo cups and transplanted to 5 gallon fabric pots
Medium - 100% coco coir
# of Plants - 2
Nutrients - FloraNova Grow/Bloom, CalMag Plus, and city/tap water (daily)
Training Techniques Used - LST on NL#1 and leaf tucking on NL#3

Initially I started 2 seeds in paper towel but the 2nd (NL#2) looked rotten and part of the root came off so I started a 3rd seed (NL#3 - 6 days behind NL#1). NL#2 lived for several weeks but never grew roots or a stem. Here are some photos...

NL#1
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NL#2
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NL#2 is now cheering from the sideline and preparing to nourish this new habanero plant (that journal resides elsewhere) :)
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NL#3 (6 days behind NL#1)
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Here's what they look like today (NL#1 on left, NL#3 on right)...
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NL#1 - Day 29
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NL#3 - Day 23
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infiniteJuan

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Re: 1st Grow - 2x Vision Northern Lights Auto/Fem - Coco - 2x Mars Hydro 300w LED

No kidding Grower23. NL#3 took off like a bat outta hell and germinated within 24 hours in paper towel (no pre-soak). The tap root was over an inch long, super fuzzy, and grew in between the paper towel plies. I accidentally broke it when I pulled it out. Didn't seem to matter though, seems to have been going strong ever since, anyway.
 

Nismo12

Member of the Month: May 2017 - Grow Journal of the Month: Dec 2016
Welcome to :420: infinitejuan! This is a great place to get all of the help you need if you need it. Those girls are looking fantastic. For being in week 5 and not having and buds yet is a little surprising, so prepare for those to be some big girls! Very green and healthy. :thumb:
 

infiniteJuan

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Welcome to :420: infinitejuan! This is a great place to get all of the help you need if you need it. Those girls are looking fantastic. For being in week 5 and not having and buds yet is a little surprising, so prepare for those to be some big girls! Very green and healthy. :thumb:

Thanks for the welcome, nismo12. :icon_cool I am very happy with how these girls are coming along, but yeah, they seem to be a little behind what I've seen in some other journals. I don't know if that is because I was initially hesitant to increase nutes and decrease light distance, or maybe it has to do with transplanting them from solo cups to their current containers. In the future I'll probably go with the advice to put autos in their final container, from the beginning, so that the transplanting doesn't hinder growth rate.
 

Nismo12

Member of the Month: May 2017 - Grow Journal of the Month: Dec 2016
Thanks for the welcome, nismo12. :icon_cool I am very happy with how these girls are coming along, but yeah, they seem to be a little behind what I've seen in some other journals. I don't know if that is because I was initially hesitant to increase nutes and decrease light distance, or maybe it has to do with transplanting them from solo cups to their current containers. In the future I'll probably go with the advice to put autos in their final container, from the beginning, so that the transplanting doesn't hinder growth rate.
Hop over to our perpetual grow and you can see a good mixture of strains. But we start our autos in solo cups and about a week after they sprout they get transplanted. They never know the difference. To each their own. Keep it up, you are doing just fine. :thumb:
 

Mpfstc

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Vision Seeds Northern Lights Autos are great. I have grown out quite a few of them with great results. Very stable, always flower, all flower right around the same time, and they always produce good. I have a few of them growing now as a matter of fact. From my experience they all seem to get a little over 3 feet tall and they like a lot of water. They are always the first to dry out in my garden. They tend to have a lemony smell with some expressing the attribute more then others. Your are looking really nice already!
 

infiniteJuan

New Member
Hop over to our perpetual grow and you can see a good mixture of strains. But we start our autos in solo cups and about a week after they sprout they get transplanted. They never know the difference. To each their own. Keep it up, you are doing just fine. :thumb:

Thanks nismo12. How do I find your perpetual grow?

greffon said:
awesome! essentially same grow as me. except I went noname 1x 600W LED and crop king seeds!

excited to follow along your grow as I progress with mine!

Cool greffon, I'll be checking in on yours as well. :thumb:

Mpfstc said:
Vision Seeds Northern Lights Autos are great. I have grown out quite a few of them with great results. Very stable, always flower, all flower right around the same time, and they always produce good. I have a few of them growing now as a matter of fact. From my experience they all seem to get a little over 3 feet tall and they like a lot of water. They are always the first to dry out in my garden. They tend to have a lemony smell with some expressing the attribute more then others. Your are looking really nice already!

Thanks for that info, Mpfstc. Sounds like I'm in for a treat; it's been a pleasure so far, that's for sure. I've had a difficult time finding much info at all on these Vision NL Autos. I mostly choose them for the medicinal qualities and because I did read in several places that NL is a great strain for beginners to start with because they are quite forgiving. Do you happen to have any links to your grows of them or more related info to this strain in particular? Thanks again.

SmokeSara said:
:welcome: your girls are looking good

Thanks much! :thumb:
 

infiniteJuan

New Member
Alright, I've managed to consolidate some of the info from this grow and am posting some pics up to this point. I applied LST to NL#1 which means I bent her top over with garden wire and tucked fan leaves. NL#3 I am only applying leaf tucking.

RH, Temperature, Feed PPM, Feed PH Ranges
05/14/2016 (Day 06) : 50-34%, 79-68F
05/15/2016 (Day 07) : 52-40%, 77-66F
05/16/2016 (Day 08) : 55-34%, 81-68F, 188ppm, 5.6ph 2ml CalMag+ / 1 gallon tap/city water
05/17/2016 (Day 09) : 59-31%, 78-70F, 209ppm, 5.8ph 2ml CalMag+
05/18/2016 (Day 10) : 44-36%, 82-68F, 345ppm, 5.7ph 1ml CalMag+ and 2ml FloraNova Bloom
05/19/2016 (Day 11) : 46-37%, 79-68F, 333ppm, 5.8ph same solution as day before
05/20/2016 (Day 12) : 41-37%, 81-70F, 198ppm, 5.8ph same solution diluted due to leaves curling
05/21/2016 (Day 13) : 43-36%, 81-70F, NL#1 347ppm NL#3 254ppm, NL#1 5.9ph NL#3 5.8ph
05/22/2016 (Day 14) : 45-33%, 82-72F, NL#1 352ppm NL#3 268ppm, 5.8ph
05/23/2016 (Day 15) : 42-33%, 81-73F, NL#1 345ppm NL#3 284ppm, 5.8ph 1ml CalMag+ 1.5ml FloraNova Grow
05/24/2016 (Day 16) : 45-35%, 81-75F, NL#1 333ppm NL#3 234ppm, 5.8ph
05/25/2016 (Day 17) : 55-40%, 82-77F, 150ppm, 5.8ph (transplanted NL#1)
05/26/2016 (Day 18) : 69-41%, 90-75F, 334ppm, 5.9ph 1ml CalMag+ 1ml FloraNova Grow
05/27/2016 (Day 19) : 72-50%, 90-75F, 305ppm, 5.8ph
05/28/2016 (Day 20) : 71-49%, 88-75F, 255ppm, 5.8ph .25ml CalMag+ .25 FloraNova Grow (transplanted NL#3)
05/29/2016 (Day 21) : 63-49%, 86-75F, 500ppm, 5.8ph 1ml CalMag+ 3ml FloraNova Grow (flushed due to leaf tips curling down)
05/30/2016 (Day 22) : 67-47%, 86-73F, 425ppm, 5.8ph diluted mix from day before with .5 gallon tap/city water
05/31/2016 (Day 23) : 63-50%, 84-75F, 307ppm, 5.8ph
06/01/2016 (Day 24) : 67-51%, 84-75F, 465ppm, 5.8ph 1ml CalMag+ 2ml FloraNova Grow
06/02/2016 (Day 25) : 64-45%, 84-73F, (unrecorded)
06/03/2016 (Day 26) : 61-44%, 84-73F, 368ppm, 5.8ph
06/04/2016 (Day 27) : 61-48%, 81-73F, 456ppm, 5.8ph 1ml CalMag+ 2ml FloraNova Grow
06/05/2016 (Day 28) : 67-51%, 82-73F, 518ppm, 5.8ph 1ml CalMag+ 2.4ml FloraNova Grow
06/06/2016 (Day 29) : 60-42%, 86-75F, 635ppm, 5.8ph 1.2ml CalMag+ 2.8ml FloraNova Grow
06/07/2016 (Day 30) : 58-38%, 84-75F, 596ppm, 5.8ph 1ml CalMag+ 3ml FloraNova Grow
06/08/2016 (Day 31) : 53-42%, 81-73F, 604ppm, 5.9ph 1.2ml CalMag+ 3.2ml FloraNova Grow

NL#1 - Day 19
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NL#1 - Day 24
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NL#3 - Day 13
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NL#3 - Day 18
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NL#1 - Day 20, NL#3 - Day 14
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NL#1 - Day 31, NL#3 - Day 25
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GrowSwami

New Member
I just harvested my Vision NL auto today. Just posted pics of the harvest although I had to shut it down about a week too early. Yours are looking great. They'll really start to drink water towards the end of the grow.
 

infiniteJuan

New Member
I just harvested my Vision NL auto today. Just posted pics of the harvest although I had to shut it down about a week too early. Yours are looking great. They'll really start to drink water towards the end of the grow.

Heya GrowSwami, I just had a look at your journal and realized I actually had been lurking on your journal for a bit now. Nice job on your grow! That looks like quite a harvest. :thumb:

How tall did your NL get? Now I'm concerned that I'm not going to have enough height in my 64" tall tent... and width with 2 plants of this size. I wonder if I should LST my other one as well. Input anyone? I didn't anticipate them having the potential to get so big. :/
 

GrowSwami

New Member
You should have no problem with height. At peak height, the only issue I had was it started to approach the bottom of my light which got pretty hot. I just angled a fan torward the top and it was fine. I didnt do any lst or scrog for my first grow though. My goal was to keep it as simple as possible. You will also be fine with width for two plants but it will be tight torward day 45 and up. Should not be a problem though.
 

infiniteJuan

New Member
Things seem to be going quite well. I do have a couple questions/issues though...

1. I have some spots on a few of the leaves. If anyone can give me insight as to what they may be from. Could it be from the light burning them due to droplets of water/nutes being left on them after feeding? They seem to only be on lower growth. Some images...





2. Am I looking at preflowers here? I started feeding them as if in transition 1/2 FloraNova Grow, 1/2 FloraNova Bloom, along with the usual CalMag+. I seem to be getting a very minor bit of tip burn so I've backed off a bit on ppm level. These two don't seem to need much when compared to feed charts; I'm on the lower end.





More pics from today. NL#1 at Day 34 (left) and NL#3 at Day 28 (right)



NL#1


NL#3




Any questions or comments are always appreciated. Thanks all.
 

Nismo12

Member of the Month: May 2017 - Grow Journal of the Month: Dec 2016
The girls look happy and healthy bud. Those little spots look like nute burn to me probably from splashing it on to the leaves when watering. Nothing major there. It happens.

And yes it looks like they will be beginning flower here within the next week or so. So keep on the bloom nutes. You are on the right track, keep it up. :thumb:
 

greffon

New Member
The girls look happy and healthy bud. Those little spots look like nute burn to me probably from splashing it on to the leaves when watering. Nothing major there. It happens.

And yes it looks like they will be beginning flower here within the next week or so. So keep on the bloom nutes. You are on the right track, keep it up. :thumb:

can running nutrient water over the plant cause nute burn? i at times run my water through some of one of my plants simply because it is a pain to get under all the foliage that is so thick at the base of the plant.
 

Nismo12

Member of the Month: May 2017 - Grow Journal of the Month: Dec 2016
can running nutrient water over the plant cause nute burn? i at times run my water through some of one of my plants simply because it is a pain to get under all the foliage that is so thick at the base of the plant.
Yes it can. Normally nute burn shows up on the very tip of the leaves. Splashing nutrients on the leaves will cause spotting like that.
 
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