420's First Soil Indoor Medical LED: Mostarda Grow Journal 2017

[mostarda]

3 seeds of
Strain: Mandala #1
Breeder: Mandala
Location: indoor, outdoor
Type: indica/sativa
Flowering: ~58 days
No feminized seeds

1 seed of
Strain: Northern Lights #9
Breeder: Sagarmatha
Location: indoor
Type: indica/sativa
Flowering: ~55 days
Normal or female seeds.

1 seed of
Strain: Lilly
Breeder: Delicatessen
Location: indoor, outdoor
Type: mostly sativa
Flowering: ~56 days
Only female seeds.

Hi everybody,
i'm trying to grow some good weed in my tent 40x40x120cm.
The light i use is a Bridgelux Vero 29 gen 7 3500K with a Meanwell Lpc 60/1400,
more or less 50/60w of output.
I will use the Swick method, like the SweetSue's thread with the blessing of Radogast
The light cycle i want to try is the Gas Lantern Routine until the plants reach the 6th node,
then i will topping to the 3rd and set the regimen to 12/12.
The size of the pots, texpot, is 3lt.
For the soil i use a lemon specific topsoil, i plan to add some stuff like worm cast and mycorrhiza.
The ventilation is provided by an usb pc fan and the extraction with a small carbon filter diy is run by a Noctua NP-12.
The fertilizers i have:
BioNova SuperMix, FloraNova Bloom and Seaweed.
I hope to have said all for now.

The seeds are in water for the germination process.
I will update soon when there are developments.

 

[HiddenGrow]

Subbed in Is the light a DIY build?

Why top so low before flowering? Are you not worried about the plants being small?

 

[mostarda]

Yes @HiddenGrow,
it's a DIY build.
I hope it works.
I have seen that in 60x60 most people use two Vero29,
so...
in a 40x40 one is a enough, maybe.
If not,
i have to find a solution...
The space in height is limited,
so i don't know exactly when and where doing the topping.
And i also know i have to give to the plants the time to heal.
I'll decide, it's a work in progress.

p.s.

Radogast maybe will laugh,
but i can't find the log out button in this forum.
In the mobile version i have it.

 

[mostarda]

Here we go!
The seeds are all sprouted and i have put them in grow room for the Gas Lantern Routine.
For one week they stay in the plastic glasses,
after that,
they will move in the definitive 3L texpots.

See you at the next update!

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[Radogast]

p.s.

Radogast maybe will laugh,
but i can't find the log out button in this forum.
In the mobile version i have it.

I laugh a lot. It is not an insult, just joy
The only place I have seen logout is under "Gallery" at the bottom of the page.



All 5 seeds sprouted at once - you will fill your tent - in a good way.


Gas lantern routine always sounded interesting. I think it started as a way to veg under sunlight.
Why did you choose this light timing instead of 20/4, 18/6, or 16/8?

 

[mostarda]

Why i have choosen GLR?
Because i like to experiment.
There isn't a reason.
I saw we have a strain in common!
The Lilly of Delicatessen,
you have marked it as Ace Seeds,
the breeder is an italian,
Mario Bellandi.
I hope we will have good things from this seed,
named also as "Pina Colada"!
Yummy.
I hope to fill my tent,
but the Mandala #1 are regular so is a 50/50.
Cross fingers!

 

[Radogast]

Why i have choosen GLR?
Because i like to experiment.
There isn't a reason.
I saw we have a strain in common!
The Lilly of Delicatessen,
you have marked it as Ace Seeds,
the breeder is an italian,
Mario Bellandi.
I hope we will have good things from this seed,
named also as "Pina Colada"!
Yummy.
I hope to fill my tent,
but the Mandala #1 are regular so is a 50/50.
Cross fingers!

Delicatessen seeds, Mario Bellandi, grazie.

I have grown a Northern Lights - But probably not a high quality Northern Lights. I like the strain.

Lilly has been a slow grower for me. She did not like the 2 liter pot size, grew quickly when I moved her to a 4 liter, and just moved to a 35 liter. Now that Lilly is in a 35 liter, I expect she will be read to put into flower in April.

My wife needs some good 'daytime' weed. I hope Lilly will become a favorite

 

[mostarda]

One week is passed.
Here a photo:

I wait few days yet then i'll move them in the 3lt.
I'm thinking to buy another COB Led for the flowering stage...
See you soon!

 

[Amadeus Forzin]

Gonna get full quickly, I've vegged under GLR speed of growth was good and switched into flower quickly, 3 days from switch she was showing pistels. Good luck

 

[CannaKitty]

Salve!!!
Ho visto il tuo commento sul mio diario ... ma tu non ti preoccupare il tuo inglese con me. . Sono Livornese Dove 6??

But I do think there is an 'English Only' rule on the actual forums.

Congratulazioni per la nascita dei vostri bambini

xxKitty

 

[Radogast]

Salve!!!
Ho visto il tuo commento sul mio diario ... ma tu non ti preoccupare il tuo inglese con me. . Sono Livornese Dove 6??

But I do think there is an 'English Only' rule on the actual forums.

Congratulazioni per la nascita dei vostri bambini

xxKitty

I can listen to Italian for days. I've been to Tuscany and Umbria 8 times - and nowhere out of North America except Italy and Hawaii. Bravissimo. La Bella Toscana

 

[mostarda]

Good,
after ten days in the glass,
i have moved the plants in the 3L texpot.

Bad,
i didn't consider that these texpot use more space than the rigid pots,
so...
5-1=4

The missed plant is a Mandala #1,
one of three,
she is finished in an other room,
with a light period of 12/12.
Yes,
i made some wrong calculations.
D'oh!!!
So,
today,
i can say i'm in the vegetative stage.


For @CannaKitty,
you're in the center,
i'm in the south.
I hope with a green filter you could take better photo under magenta Led light.

I apologise with @Radogast and @CannaKitty,
i wrote little on your threads,
but i read and if i find the time to participate,
i'll do.
I'm trying to be pithy!
LOL

Thanks @Mr Am4zin!

 

[Nutria]

Followin'

 

[mostarda]

9 days,
i don't know if all is right,
maybe they are growing slowly.
Keep going! I say to myself.
I'm trying to respect the cycle dry/wet,
so for now,
nothing SWICK.
What i want to achieve is a good root system.
Any advice is welcome!

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[Amadeus Forzin]

They look good

 

[Radogast]

They look good to me too!

Seedlings grow slower than clones. Soil grows slower than hydro.

Why the water on top of the leaves?

 

[mostarda]

When the lights go on,
i use the sprayer.
If it is wrong,
i quit immediately.
For now is it only water,
after,
maybe at 21 days,
i have programmed to use kelp/seaweed as foliar feeding.

What color temperature is best for a full cycle single cob led?
3500K or 4000k?
I know 4000k has more blue spectrum good for vegetative,
but maybe is also good to control stretching in flowering stage...
All these considerations are about Citizen Clu048 1212.

 

[Radogast]

When the lights go on,
i use the sprayer.
If it is wrong,
i quit immediately.
For now is it only water,
after,
maybe at 21 days,
i have programmed to use kelp/seaweed as foliar feeding.

What color temperature is best for a full cycle single cob led?
3500K or 4000k?
I know 4000k has more blue spectrum good for vegetative,
but maybe is also good to control stretching in flowering stage...
All these consideration are about Citizen Clu048 1212.

With lights on, it is usually best to spray the underside of leaves. The water droplets on the top can focus intense light and create little pinprick burns or just generally stress the leaves. No light intensity problems on the undersides of leaves.

 

[mostarda]

Ok, i understood.
Is it also the way for foliar feeding? Spray the underneath leaf?
When the light go off i can spray and feeding,
i have read about it.
Thanks again @Radogast,
your Lilly is gorgeous!

 

[Radogast]

Ok, i understood.
Is it also the way for foliar feeding? Spray the underneath leaf?
When the light go off i can spray and feeding,
i have read about it.
Thanks again @Radogast,
your Lilly is gorgeous!

For foliar contact sprays, the spray is made to contact bugs where the bugs live. Many bugs live on the bottoms of leaves. Some live on the top. Day or night may not matter much.


Foliar feeding and some foliar bug sprays (such as neem) are systemic sprays - they are meant to be absorbed into the plant system.

For foliar systemic sprays, the stoma of the leaves absorb the spray. Stoma are on both the top and bottom of the leaves, but there are more on the bottom. So spraying on the bottom side is more effective.

Also for foliar systemic sprays, during the day plants absorb moisture through the stoma, during the night they exhale moisture, If spraying at night, the moisture mostly evaporates. If spraying in the day, the plants absorb more of the moisture. If spraying on the top (sunny) side of the leaves, more moisture is lost to evaporation than if spraying on the bottom (shaded) side.

For foliar feeding, spray on the underside of leaves. Spraying in the first half of the day (the lights on period) is the most effective.