4x4x6"11' Gorilla Grow Tent Set Up

Nice man! Im ready to get things up and running. Luckily I found out I know somone who has been a part of the concentrate and medical game out here in socal for about as long as I was in the military so he has offered to lend a hand as well. Going duel 600w sounds like its going to be pretty sweet once I get it all fit in and everything and from the sounds of it heat shouldnt be nearly as much of a problem this way. Cant wait to get a grow journal started for you guys!
 
Hi mate, i came here from cokes journal, he posted the link to your journal their so thought id come over and see what you going on and how far your getting,

sounds like your on your way to getting everything you need, i only use a 400watt dual spectrum hps for flower and veg as its suppose to have the correct spectrum for both veg and flower, however im going to change my bulbs as im not happy with the results during veg using the dual spectrum hps, so as i have got a digital ballast which pretty much all the new ballasts are then this means i can fit a metal halide bulb for veg then when i flip to flower ill use a high pressure sodium bulb,

i cant really help with fans as its not something i know much about, i built my own small fans but i dont use grow tent as i got inbuilt cupboard i use so not really needed fans as such, i got a load of 12v computer fans running to keep it cooler and move air around, grow door is always slightly open to help with temps so not really looked into buying fans for exhaust yet, if i go with a bigger watt bulb and ballast then ill get a cool tube to keep temps in check,

id have to say if you have not grown before then id go with soil/compost for your first grow, hydro grows plants quicker but theirs a lot to take in for your first time round, a dwc is not to bad either but again you need to be able to read the plants and remember to keep checking the ph and ppms to make sure you dont get any lock out problems with nutrients,

im growing soil and grow some 2ltr dwc hempies, ive had no problems with the dwc hempies, as long as the res is kept cool the roots will be ok,
the only issue i had was when i bought expensive compost, it must of had to much N in it as it kept killing seedlings then when i transplanted a plant into a bigger pot the leaves started turning into claws so i went back to the cheap compost i was using and my problems went away,

for seeds if your buying over the net id go with herbies head shop, he is cheaper than most and you get good free seeds with every ordeer,
nutrients id go with blue planet nutrients, corey who runs blue planet nutrients is a top bloke and will always answer questions and help with any problems you might have, ive not had any issues using bpn, i live in europe so it would be cheaper for me to buy products in my own country but after trying bpn i wont use anything else, so bpn would be my first choice,
ive never needed to adjust the ph with bpn either, when i mix a batch up the ph is spot on for my grows so not needed to change much,
 
you say your going to vent out into the chimney, is this chimney shared with any other properties or is it only your chimney, if its shared with others then make sure the carbon filter is replaced when its needed as others will smell the plants through their fireplace, i used to live with a flat mate in a low rise block of flats/apartment, he used to grow but he had problems as he heard neighbours talking about their apartments smelling of weed, he had to start using carbon filters and ona gel to hide the smell,

so thats something to consider, i dont think it will be a problem until you are late in flower so as long as you keep on top of the carbon filter smell wont be an issue,
 
Alright guys sat down with a friend who has been doing things locally for several years now and got a plan hashed out. I will be using that apollo set that was linked b4 so thanks to whom ever gave me that ill +rep soon! Ill start with one see where temps are at and go from there. How ever I would like to have an AC unit controlling my tent so I can keep 100% control of my temperatures. So my question to you guys out there now is what SMALL AC unit could I fit in my tent to take up the least space. My friend and I where thinking building some sort of stand so that it is up high over the plants that way instead of taking up a whole space it will only take up the space the legs need.

Ideally I would like to get a self standing AC unit that has a thermostat that is detachable so I can put it in my tent along with fittings to have my cold air pumped into the tent .
 
Hi mate, i came here from cokes journal, he posted the link to your journal their so thought id come over and see what you going on and how far your getting,

sounds like your on your way to getting everything you need, i only use a 400watt dual spectrum hps for flower and veg as its suppose to have the correct spectrum for both veg and flower, however im going to change my bulbs as im not happy with the results during veg using the dual spectrum hps, so as i have got a digital ballast which pretty much all the new ballasts are then this means i can fit a metal halide bulb for veg then when i flip to flower ill use a high pressure sodium bulb,

i cant really help with fans as its not something i know much about, i built my own small fans but i dont use grow tent as i got inbuilt cupboard i use so not really needed fans as such, i got a load of 12v computer fans running to keep it cooler and move air around, grow door is always slightly open to help with temps so not really looked into buying fans for exhaust yet, if i go with a bigger watt bulb and ballast then ill get a cool tube to keep temps in check,

id have to say if you have not grown before then id go with soil/compost for your first grow, hydro grows plants quicker but theirs a lot to take in for your first time round, a dwc is not to bad either but again you need to be able to read the plants and remember to keep checking the ph and ppms to make sure you dont get any lock out problems with nutrients,

im growing soil and grow some 2ltr dwc hempies, ive had no problems with the dwc hempies, as long as the res is kept cool the roots will be ok,
the only issue i had was when i bought expensive compost, it must of had to much N in it as it kept killing seedlings then when i transplanted a plant into a bigger pot the leaves started turning into claws so i went back to the cheap compost i was using and my problems went away,

for seeds if your buying over the net id go with herbies head shop, he is cheaper than most and you get good free seeds with every ordeer,
nutrients id go with blue planet nutrients, corey who runs blue planet nutrients is a top bloke and will always answer questions and help with any problems you might have, ive not had any issues using bpn, i live in europe so it would be cheaper for me to buy products in my own country but after trying bpn i wont use anything else, so bpn would be my first choice,
ive never needed to adjust the ph with bpn either, when i mix a batch up the ph is spot on for my grows so not needed to change much,

Hey glad you made it over! Ive def got a solid plan lined out it seems its just going to take a little money and handy work to get it all going. and thanks COKE420 for giving me a shout on your thread! +rep for you on the way.
 
you say your going to vent out into the chimney, is this chimney shared with any other properties or is it only your chimney, if its shared with others then make sure the carbon filter is replaced when its needed as others will smell the plants through their fireplace, i used to live with a flat mate in a low rise block of flats/apartment, he used to grow but he had problems as he heard neighbours talking about their apartments smelling of weed, he had to start using carbon filters and ona gel to hide the smell,

so thats something to consider, i dont think it will be a problem until you are late in flower so as long as you keep on top of the carbon filter smell wont be an issue,

Im not positive but I believe my chimney flows through or past someone elses b4 it gets outside but a carbon filter is a must regardless I agree !
 
It's a lot more efficient, temps and electrical wise, to have the air-cooled hoods vs. AC.

I know air conditioning is needed at times. But ventilation is always needed.

AC alone won't cut it. You need a means to ventilate the excess moisture in the air. But there's more than just keeping the relative humidity in check. Oscillating fans to mix the air and exhaust uptakes that dissipates or removes the heat.

I'm currently pushing 1200+ watts in a 4'x4' flowering tent. No AC but great ventilation. No heat issues.
 
It's a lot more efficient, temps and electrical wise, to have the air-cooled hoods vs. AC.

I know air conditioning is needed at times. But ventilation is always needed.

AC alone won't cut it. You need a means to ventilate the excess moisture in the air. But there's more than just keeping the relative humidity in check. Oscillating fans to mix the air and exhaust uptakes that dissipates or removes the heat.

I'm currently pushing 1200+ watts in a 4'x4' flowering tent. No AC but great ventilation. No heat issues.

What temperature is it around you though? I understand I need fans for the light Im talking about having the AC as an additional. Im sure I could grow in my tent and keep temperatures controlled enough for the plants to grow but thats not really what I am looking to do. Im trying to set up an environment that allows me to be sure the plants are staying in the temperatures they need to be in. With that being said Id be interested in knowing what the temperature is where you live and what it is in your box throughout the day without AC of any sort and just fans. Im not saying you arent doing it Im just saying it doesnt seem possible in my situation. However I will be getting everything b4 I get the AC unit so I will be testing the box for temperatures without it. In a perfect world though I would have an AC unit that sits outside of the tent so that it does not take up any room what so ever and have it just pumping cool air into the tent from outside of it.
 
sounds like your on your way to some good bud, i had very limited funds but their is much id like to buy,
so having the funds to start off with will really pay off in the long term,
cant wait to see how this grow turns out, should be a good grow for sure, subd and along for the ride,
 
Nice man! I def hope to be on my way to growing some great bud! I agree its nice to have some change to throw around to get things started from the get go. You wouldnt happen to have any idea's for my AC debacle would you?
 
Another question for everyone! Maybe this will allow me to have my set up and keep temps low without an AC unit. How much of a difference do the closed tube hoods make over a regular hood aswell as how much difference does a closed tube closed hood make on the heat inside the tent overall? Im hoping maybe if I can find a good priced hood that is not only a closed hood but also has the closed tube going that it will keep the heat in one place long enough to get blown away b4 effecting overall temp of the tent.

So questions are just for my own organization lol

Do closed hoods make a huge temp difference?
Is there even a larger marginal difference with closed tube closed hood's?
Does anyone have a Hood/Light/Ballast type set that sell all this?
- I have been searching amazon but seem to only find either closed tube or closed hood never the 2 together and if I do its sold out.

Thanks everyone! Cant wait to get this tent going and have some plants/budporn all over this thread.

For you budporn guys dont worry I LOVE ME SOME FLOWER TOO we wont destroy it all with extraction!

For anyone who may be interested; once I get this tent all set up the day I through plants in will also be the day I start an instagram/tumblr to document my grow and will continue to do so there to show/talk about the therapeutic qualities of growing so with that said stay posted and I will be giving out the account name/urls for those as well!
----- Following either of those or this journal gaining some followers I will also be doing some sort of giveaway throughout each grow! I dont have this planned fully yet, but I figure it would be cool to do and might make the place more a fun information sharing environment! I promise this is not a plea to get more subs or followers, but lets be honest the more eyes I have helping me as I start the better... For the most part lol
 
hi, cant really help with ac, it never gets hot enough where i am to have ac,

but with the hoods, a regular hood with no glass on it will put out high temps into the grow room making it a lot hotter, but a cool tube or enclosed hood with the vents will help keep temps down, you just run them through a fan so its blowing the hot air from the bulb strait out the tent, this will help loads with the temps.

so if you think you will have temp issues then go with an air cooled hood that you can run ducting to and use a fan to cool the tube, im pretty sure you could even rig one up with the carbon filter, having the hood cooled will really keep temps down, plus it will help you get the light closer to the plants, my 400watt hps gets pretty hot and its not cooled, so i have to leaev my grow door open slightly when the light is on, if it was a cool tube or enclosed with vents at either end then running fucting will remove all that heat and stop it going into the grow room,

if you click on this link below it will show you the type of cooled hood you can get, some have a squirel fan coming out the top but your vent would then need to be going out the roof of the tent, the ones in this link below are the type that have the inlet and outlet fittings, if you look either side of the hood you will see them round connectors, your ducting would go to this and you could either have an carbon filter on one end then the fan will remove the air from the room,

someone else will explain if its best to blow air into the hood past the bulb or if its best to suck are past the bulb and out the tent. im sure one method is best but not used them so not best to ask about air flow direction,

but one of them hoods would stop all the heat from the bulb going into the grow tent, instead the fan pulls the air past the bulb and out of the tent, so temps would be easier to control,
 
not sure i can post the link, so just search for air cooled grow light hoods, that should find you what im on about, its basically the hood, then a piece of glass below the bulb so the bulb is slealed in the hood, then at either end of hood is the 6inch duct tube fittings, then you just rig a fan up and run some ducting so the air is either pulled through the hood from inside the tent or the other option would be to pull air from the room and back out into the room,
but would need more holes in tent to run 2 extra ducting pipes so not sure if that is something you can do, dont know the tent your using so cant say if thats something easy to do or not,
you only need 1 hole for it for sucking the air out of the tent and past the bulb then out the grow tent all together,
 
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