Anyone know how to change a male plant to female?

[Cannapheliac]

I have just pulled two out of my three beautiful Thai plants! It hurt me soo bad, I have ten cheese females and 8 OG master kush females but it was the seeds I got for free from gypsy nivana seed bank, they were Sam the skunkmans Thai haze x skunk #1 and 3 out of 5 popped and I've been enthusiastically waitng to smoke that shit! I love pure sativa and well anyways two are male and pulled them but I still have 1 left but its more skunky of a pheno its shorter and wider leafed but anyways, I know there are certain chemicals you could use to change the sex and I'd like some1 to explain the process to me because seriously I don't ever wanna chop another beautiful plant like that again!!

 

[StonerGrower]

I didnt read your post...Just the title. Im tired of seeing this question honestly.

THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN TURN A MALE INTO A FEMALE OR VICE VERSA!

 

[RooRman]

"Certain chemicals" (gibberellic acid) is sometimes used to turn female plants into herms.

You cannot turn a male into to a female. All the chemicals in the world won't do it.

 

[Boss]

You can germ a female, take her seeds, plant them, and hope he made you a female ;-0

 

[Smokin Moose]

You may find this helpful my friend. It IS possible to alter a plant's sexual presentation using Gibberellic Acid, to produce male flowers on a female plant. This is a state of hermaphrodism, rather than a change of sex.[

 

[Boss]

I thought that GA was used to try and make a female produce male pollen, not the other way around. Even when that was done, Cees said it had a tendancy to produce a hermie genetic seed. These topics get too damn deep for me ;-)

 

[Smokin Moose]

Yes Boss, you are correct, but I have tried to do male to female, and I used STS.
Here is my "Juice" for creating male flowers on a female plant. I use a Sliver Thiosulphate solution.

1. mix 2.6 grams of sodium thiosulphate into 600ml of distilled water and mix thoroughly.

2. mix .7 grams of silver nitrate into 100ml of distilled water and mix thoroughly.

3. mix silver nitrate solution into sodium thiosulphate solution while stirring rapidly.

4. top off mixture with distilled water to fill a glass quart jar (canning jar type).

5. use this mix at a 3:1 ratio with distilled water and spray plants to point of run-off.

6. repeat process in 3 days, move target females in at 5 days.

use common safety precautions. rubber gloves, safety glasses, skin covered, respirator preferred.

3:1 ratio of distilled water to stock mix of STS can be played with some. some people use it as diluted as 9:1 and some run it as hot as 1:1.


This may be helpful as well.

How To Reverse Sex Using Silver Thiosulfate Solution

The following is a safe, inexpensive, and successful method for reversing the sex of female cannabis plants. Individual plant responses may vary based upon strain, but I can verify that this process is fully effective in stimulating profuse staminate flower production.

This process can be used to:

A: create new feminized seeds from solitary prize mothers that you currently have
B: create interesting feminized-seed hybrids from different prize strains that you currently have
C: create feminized seeds for optimum outdoor use
D: accelerate the "interview" phase of cultivation, in searching for interesting new clone-mothers
E: reduce total plant numbers- great for medical users with severe plant number restrictions
F: increase variety, by helping to create stable feminized seedlines to be used as an alternative to clones

At the bottom of this post are some specific details about the chemicals used, their safety, their cost, and where to get them.

It is important to educate yourself about cannabis breeding theory and technique prior to using a method like this one. Here is a link to Robert Clarke's "Marijuana Botany", which is a very good reference.

"Marijuana Botany" by Robert Connell Clarke
(unfortunately missing the appendices)
Marijuana Botany

It is also important to use basic safety precautions when mixing and handling these chemicals, so read the safety data links provided. The risk is similar to mixing and handling chemical fertilizers, and similar handling procedures are sufficient.

Remember: nothing will ever replace good genetics, and some of your bounty should always go back towards the professional cannabis breeders out there... the ones who have worked for many generations to come up with their true-breeding F1 masterpieces. Support professional breeders by buying their seeds.

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First, a stock solution is made. It consists of two parts (A and B) that are initially mixed separately, then blended together. Part A is ALWAYS mixed into part B while stirring rapidly. Use distilled water; tap water may cause precipitates to form.

Wear gloves while mixing and using these chemicals, and mix and use in a properly ventilated area. A mask will prevent the breathing of any dust, which is caustic. STS is colorless and odorless, and poses minimal health risks if used as described here. (See material safety data sheet links below). Note that silver nitrate and STS can cause brown stains upon drying, so spray over newspaper and avoid spilling.

Part A: .5 gram silver nitrate stirred into 500ml distilled water
Part B: 2.5 grams sodium thiosulfate (anhydrous) stirred into 500ml distilled water

The silver nitrate dissolves within 15 seconds. The sodium thiosulfate takes 30-45 seconds to dissolve.

The silver nitrate solution (A) is then mixed into the sodium thiosulfate solution (B) while stirring rapidly. The resulting blend is stock silver thiosulfate solution (STS).

This stock solution is then diluted at a ratio of 1:9 to make a working solution. For example, 100ml of stock STS is added to 900ml of distilled water. This is then sprayed on select female plants.

Both the stock STS and the working solution should be refrigerated after use, as well as the powdered chemicals, to avoid activity loss. Excess working solution can be safely poured down the drain after use (with ample running water) with negligible environmental impact. It's pretty cheap.

Each liter of stock STS will make ten 1-liter batches of working solution of STS. With the minimum amount of base chemicals ordered from Photographer's Formulary (see link below), this means that each 1-liter bottle of working solution STS costs less than 9 cents, and can treat 15-20 mid-sized plants. That's 200 1-liter batches of STS for $18. Note that the distilled water costs far more than the chemicals.

The STS working solution is sprayed on select female plants until runoff. Do the spraying over newspaper in a separate area from the flower room. You probably won't smell anything, but ventilate anyway. You now have what I call a "F>M plant"; a female plant that will produce male flowers.

After the F>M plant dries move it into 12/12 immediately. This is usually done three to four weeks prior to the date that the target (to be pollinated) plants will be ready to pollinate. Response times may vary slightly depending upon the strain. More specific times can be determined by trial with your own individual strains. In my trials it took 26 days for the first pollen. 30-35 days seems optimum for planning purposes.

So, assuming that a target plant needs 3-4 weeks to produce fully mature seeds, a strain that takes 8 weeks to mature should be moved into flower at about the same time as the female>male plant. A target plant that finishes flowering in 6 weeks needs to be moved into flower later (10 days or so) so that it doesn't finish before the seeds can fully mature.

A seeded individual branch can be left to mature on a plant for a bit longer, while harvesting the other seedless buds if they finish first. Just leave enough leaves on for the plant for it to stay healthy.

Effects:

Within days I noticed a yellowing of the leaves on the F>M plants. This effect persisted for two weeks or so; after this they became green again, except for a few of the larger fans. The plants otherwise seemed healthy. No burning was observed. Growth stopped dead for the first ten days, and then resumed slowly. No stretch was ever seen. After two weeks the F>M plants were obviously forming male flower clusters. Not just a few clusters of balls, but complete male flower tops. One plant still formed some pistillate flowers, but overall it was predominantly male.

It is strange indeed to see an old girlfriend that you know like the back of your hand go through a sex change. I'll admit that things were awkward between us at first.

When the F>M plants look like they may soon open and release pollen, ( 3-1/2 to 4 weeks) move them from the main flower room into another unventilated room or closet with lighting on a 12/12 timer. Don't worry too much about watts per square foot; it will only be temporary.

When the pollen flies, move your target plants into the closet and pollinate.

A more controlled approach is to isolate the F>M plants in a third remote closet (no light is necessary in this one, as they are releasing pollen now and are nearly finished anyway). In this remote other closet the pollen is very carefully collected in a plastic produce bag or newspaper sleeve and then brought back to the lighted closet, where the target plants are now located. If this is done, be careful to not mix pollen types by letting the F>Ms dust each other. Avoid movement, or use yet another closet.

Take special care to not let pollen gather on the outside of this bag- a static charge is sometimes present. Drop small open clusters of blooms inside and then close the bag at the mouth and shake. Important: next, step outside and slowly release the excess air from the bag, collapsing it completely, so that pollen doesn't get released accidently. Point downwind; don't let it get on your hands or clothes.

This collapsed pollinated bag is now very carefully slipped over only one branch and is then tied off tightly at the mouth around the branch stem with a twist tie or tape, sealing the pollen inside. Let the bag inflate slightly with air again before sealing it off, so the branch can breathe. This technique keeps the entire plant from seeding. Agitate the bag a bit after tying it off to distribute the pollen. Don't forget to label the branch so you know which seeds are which. Other branches on this same plant can be hit with different pollen sources.

If no lighted closet is available, the plant can be moved back into the main room, but- be very careful: pollen is sneaky. After 4-5 days, the bag is gently removed and the plant completes it's flowering cycle.

Yet another method has worked well for me. I position the target plants in a non-ventilated lighted closet, and then I collect pollen on a piece of mirror or glass. This is then carefully applied to the pistils of one pre-labeled branch by using a very fine watercolor paintbrush. Care is taken to not agitate the branch or the pollen. No sneezing. The plant needs to be in place first; moving it after pollination can shake pollen free and blow this technique.

Regardless of technique, at completion you will have feminized seeds. Let them dry for 2-4 weeks.

Silver nitrate is a white crystalline light-sensitive chemical that is commonly used in photography. It is also used in babies' eyes at birth to prevent blindness. It can cause mild skin irritation, and it stains brown. Avoid breathing. I didn't notice any smell or fumes, but ventilation is recommended. Be sure to wash the spray bottle well before you use it elsewhere; better yet: devote a bottle to STS use. A half gram is a surprisingly small amount; it would fit inside a gel capsule.

Here are links to some safety data. A Google search will bring up more information if needed.

Silver Nitrate info:
ICSC:NENG1116 International Chemical Safety Cards (WHO/IPCS/ILO) | CDC/NIOSH
https://www.lions.odu.edu/~redwards/... solution.pdf

For a realistic hazard level comparison, here is a link for the safety and handling data for Ammonium Nitrate, or common fertilizer:
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Sodium thiosulfate is also a white crystalline chemical commonly used in photography; it is used in photographic fixers. Same general cautions apply, minus the staining. This formula uses the anhydrous type. Non-hazardous.

Sodium Thiosulfate info:
https://ptcl.chem.ox.ac.uk/MSDS/SO/s...hiosulfate.html
https://www.med-chem.com/MSDS/Sodium_Thiosulf.htm

For what it's worth, here is some information I found about sex-reversal in cannabis. This was printed in the memoirs of H.Y. Mohan Ram, found as a .pdf file which I discovered by searching google for "Mohan Ram and Sett" as cited by Vic High on this board.
Here is a link to the .pdf file: Journal of Biosciences | Indian Academy of Sciences -- I enjoyed reading this man's words, he seems like a wonderful and wise human being.

He states that fertile male flowers can be induced in female cannabis plants using:
gibberellins (GAs) and anti-ethylene agents such as:
silver nitrate (AgNO3)
silver thiosulphate anionic complex (STS)
aminoethoxyvinyl glycene (AVG)
and cobalt chloride (CoCl2).

As this was an aside mentioned in the larger context of Dr. Ram's life work, he does not go into detail regarding the methods of application of these chemicals to achieve the sex reversal. I'm sure the papers Vic mentioned will give the specifics, here they are again (thanks Vic):

Mohan Ram H Y and Juiswal VS. 1972. Induction of male flowers on female plants of Cannabis sativa by gibberellins and its inhibition by abscisic acid. Plants, 105:263-266.

Mohan Ram H Y and Sett R. 1981. Modification of growth and sex expression in Cannabis sativa by aminoethoxyvinylglycine and ethephon. Z. Pflanzenphysiol., 105:165-172.

Mohan Ram H Y and Sett R. 1982. Induction of fertile male flowers in genetically female Cannabis sativa plants by silver nitrate and silver thiosulphate anionic complex. Theor. Appl. Genet., 62:369-375

Source: Saskafarian

 

[RooRman]

Boss,

To clear things up, GA causes the female plant to additionally grow male sex organs, and thus produce male pollen carrying only XX chromosomes. However, as you mentioned, this does result in a higher instance of the offspring turning herm. as well. GA can also be very harmful to humans and it should NOT be inhaled nor should the buds be smoked from the sprayed plant. The sprayed plant is only used to pollinate another true female to create femenized seed.

 

[Cannapheliac]

thanx every1, well I thought as much I was just talking to some jackass that runs a dispensery and he was saying he knows how to turn a male plant female but he can't tell me but he'll sell me some already made up for $50. I knew the guy was probably full of shit but the only reason I gave it any credence was the fact that he runs a couple dispenseries, so I just thought put the ? up on here to get some feedback.

I had a hermie plant and used reverse by Dutch master and it burned off all the male flowers and I only ended up with a few premi seeds on that 1 plant and I had 12 other females in the same yard.

But thank you every1 i appreciate it.

 

[Leary]

"Certain chemicals" (gibberellic acid) is sometimes used to turn female plants into herms.

You cannot turn a male into to a female. All the chemicals in the world won't do it.

mhmm Gibberellic acid makes em herms I just read this in the Cannabible3

 

[RooRman]

Actually you can reverse a male plant. I have a male(an autoflowering Lowryder 2) which I cut clones from and put into a 25ppm solution (should promote plant growth and seems to have helped the clones to stay alive) of gibberillic acid. the clones are doing great and have started sending out female flowers along side the male bananas.
Gibberillic acid is used by fruit and vegetable growers to produce seedless varieties. watermellons, grapes, oranges and a lot more. it can be used to increase vegetative growth as well.

Gibberellic acid is also very toxic, a known mutagen. I advise that you do not smoke anything that comes from the plant you sprayed with it, it is not safe to do so.

The purpose of the acid is to induce a female to herm. which can then polinate a true female and form 100% female seed.

 

[RooRman]

... Do not use on food crops or for any other purpose than seed germination research...

I think that says it all right there.

You can choose to heed my advice or not, the choice is yours. It is after all your own health you are putting at risk and not my own.

 

[RaVeNPot]

You may find this helpful my friend. It IS possible to alter a plant's sexual presentation using Gibberellic Acid, to produce male flowers on a female plant. This is a state of hermaphrodism, rather than a change of sex.[

 

[jungleworld]

i had a light fall on my female skunk 4 days later changed to male i thought that was freaking crazyyyyyy !!!!!

 

[Squeezeflo]

Boss,

To clear things up, GA causes the female plant to additionally grow male sex organs, and thus produce male pollen carrying only XX chromosomes. However, as you mentioned, this does result in a higher instance of the offspring turning herm. as well. GA can also be very harmful to humans and it should NOT be inhaled nor should the buds be smoked from the sprayed plant. The sprayed plant is only used to pollinate another true female to create femenized seed.

Do you or anyone know how long I would have to keep several different strain females apart after using giberillic acid to avoid cross pollination?

 

[caliskins]

You can sex a seed not the plant. . You should probably buy some feminized seeds. . .

 

[slimm]

So I have a male Casey Jones F1 plant that I stressed a bit by leaving it in 24 hour cycle for a couple of days after it was in full flower and it developed a couple female flowers. I have the plant in reveg now and am wondering if this something special or something to be destroyed.

Before I spend time experimenting with this plant. Has anyone else had male plants that also express female flowers? Is there new research in this area? What should I do with this shemale?

 

[unclesticky]

I have just pulled two out of my three beautiful Thai plants! It hurt me soo bad, I have ten cheese females and 8 OG master kush females but it was the seeds I got for free from gypsy nivana seed bank, they were Sam the skunkmans Thai haze x skunk #1 and 3 out of 5 popped and I've been enthusiastically waitng to smoke that shit! I love pure sativa and well anyways two are male and pulled them but I still have 1 left but its more skunky of a pheno its shorter and wider leafed but anyways, I know there are certain chemicals you could use to change the sex and I'd like some1 to explain the process to me because seriously I don't ever wanna chop another beautiful plant like that again!!

yes you can its called cubeing. that is how you see seeds for sale that were clone only plants. I seen Adam from TH seeds talking about this on a youtube video before TH seeds videos were removed. I dont know how its done for sure, but you could try to e-mail Adam @ TH seeds and ask, but they may not want to tell you many seed companys dont want you useing their plants for breeding.

 

[garce]

is it possible for a plant to have no sex ?

 

[buckeyebonger]

call it the bruce jenner strain