Klovneposen
Well-Known Member
Hello fellow growers and you who thinks about having your own little plant in the closet or cabinet.
I've got about 8 years of growing behind me so i've got a pretty good idea about how to keep a plant alive.
But also im no tech wiz actually im more of a technical retard. I got my first computer at age 21 for an example
so the hole LED world looked a bit confusing in my eye's. There is a lot more technical specs to consider when growing with LEDs and i thought i got the hole grower lingo pretty much under control.but then i met LED were people are talking NM, PAR, UMOL, tribands, quadbands, hexabands, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah and yes you go into brainfreeze, when the pro's start talking about it. Im still too green to educate anyone about anything regarding LEDs. But i thought i would post this thread, for those of you finding it hard to search the web on good hornest reviews on the smaller LED lights like Ufo's most treads i could google were either uncompleted or surely written as more of a salespitch rather than newbie helping guidelines. and not all smokers are well educated engineers or technicians so whats shit and whats cinnamon?
my limited experience with my Ufo tells me that one of the key ingredients in growing with a small LED is Mylar and plenty of it. The Led footprint is very limited too under the lamp and depends one the spread on the lenses 60, 90, 10 or 120 degrees spread for an example. The degree of spread put together with the strength of the lenses wattage usage will determent the distance to the plant.. And you need as much reflecting material as possible to get light as much around your plant as possible. I found LST FIM and ROOT-trimming when repotting and not settling with a small shitty pot a good way to up your yield with the small 90w UFO. well nuff talk now ill just copy/paste some dry numbers and specs in my setup. that i have also posted regarding LED light in another tread. i just thought this info might be easier to find for newcomers if in its own thread, i found it difficult to find reliable materiel regarding a new technology when i started looking into this. So i hope this can be helpful for someone out there.
From my post on Thread :The Basics Of Plant Lighting. if new with LED you should read this Thread, this guy and alot of the commentators in the thread are much smarter on the subject than myself.
I use to flower using 1200w of hps. had to move to something smaller so stopped growing. now im getting back on the horse the LED horse that is. I must say so fare i am actually very impressed, and i was one of the real haters of LED five yeas ago. now im sitting here eating my own hat
I looked at alot of ufo's went with this one. found it on a regional "local" website. i paid around double of the going prices of the e-bay china models. around 220 dollars. i didn't want to get a bad first impression of the LEDs do to being a cheapskate, so i went after for something of better quality (in my opinion) than most of the e-bay ufo's i found. I know there are a lot of panels that will preform better, but i am trying to keep it small and on a fairly low budget. i think there is a lot of cheating with the specs regrding chipset lenses etc. when buying on e-bay (if your not a pro at buying e-bay stuff)
my hornest opinion of the lamp i got, is that it works great for smaller medical cabinets and closets.
90 watt ufo
45 x 3 watt chipset
Hexaband
Leds mounted
# Blue LED (430nm).
# Royal blue LED (450nm).
# Blue LED 475nm.
# Deep Red LED (660nm).
# Orange/Red LED (640nm).
# Orange/Red LED (630nm)
keep it around 30-40 cm 12-16 inches from my plants
for site lighting i've gone with.
2 x 12 watt E27 fitted LED lamps
for my upcoming seedling veg room i will go with two of these and two of somewhat similar lamps regarding watts but just with pure blue spectrum.
Blue LED (430nm)
Royal blue LED (450nm).
Blue LED 475nm.
Deep red LED (660nm).
Red LED (640nm).
used as side light
if used on top of plants about 8-12 cm 4-5 inches (you can actually grow a small plant to harvest with one of these small lamps and get not much but some smoke) my friend grew a LR in a small pot with one of these lamps and he is not a experienced grower he still pulled 5 dry grams off it, he put it in the window some few days when the sun was shinning but beside that it was just standing in the cabinet of his and i only feed it some cheep home depo garden fertz in had it in shitty soil.
i must say they (the ufo and my site lights) seem to preform quite well in both veg and flower
i have not yet mounted air intake or outtake in my closet. only a 35 watt circulation fan.
temps are fine. But got to fix it before the next summer hits im just going with two 12v pc fans
Right now i got 1 Bagseed female. planted two in the pot but one was male so i digged up from the pot a few days after inducing flowering stage. i've been fimming and doing LST since 3-4 sets of leafs.
Its growing just with the ufo light no side lighting want to see the ufo fly solo sort to say.
the pot is a 40 litre/about 10 gallon pot with a lot of drilled airholes around the side and in the bottom.
Using a biobizz light mix soil
Fertz BioBizz Grow, Bloom, Topmax and Alg-A-Mic somewere according too the schedule provided by biobizz on their web site.
I feed it some rootjuice when repotted and root trimmed as well when repotted.
the two bagseeds looked like this after repotting and growing for about one week in the new pot. as mentioned earlier one was male and it got removed after inducing floweringstage when the first pollensacks occured. it looked very femaleish tho. tight inbetween internotes and not as streetchy as i found males often to be. if both would have been female it would have been a tight fit in the closet so its no plroblem that one was male
Now its going on day 30 of flower and looks like this
My last grow were six Lowriders Roadrunner and RQS auto cheese, they started potted outside late summer and got a lot of rain even two attacks of hail they grew in shitty cheep soil with stonelayers gravel instead of perlite. but i still got to pull 60+ grams dried from 5 of them the last one i cut down a bit premature so did'nt get the weight from that one. they only had one month under the Ufo and it really did something good with those six saggy titted garden hoes of sorry plants i had started growing
actually i just paid for my LR seeds thinking i could get a quick one in there on an "indian summer". when the seeds were germinated the sun said bye bye and rain and hail said hey hey. As any hornest grower in here will know. Something inside me was screaming something like AAAAAAARH!!!!! when i saw my little plants looking more and more beat down and soggy in my small gardenpatch. so yeah i ended up spending 350 dollars to save six saggy sobbing plants
When you start growing it gets under your skin and you cant seem to do less than your best for the babies.
this is a picture of the six LR and my two bagseeds LR 26days old looking pretty sorryass imo. The bagseeds with the lst are about 40 days old. The one in the red pot is the female i've got upstairs in this thread. Just when i mounted the Ufo, i had a big distance between light and plants, i then regulated the distance over the next week or so, untill i found what seemed to be the hotspot of the optimal distance.
so this is the roadrunners and RQS auto cheese around 60 days from popping the seeds
So must say that me personally im satisfied with my small LED lamps. Iv'e paid around 350 bucks for my closet in all and it should last me at least 3 years. Im not pulling the yields i was doing before, but when i get proberly into the LEDs i expect to surpass my hps yields pr. squarefeet at some point. when i get some 5 watt leds in my next closet, a have a secret plan on how to get me some massive buds even at the bottom of the bushy-ish bushes but thats for another thread later in life
its a massive downsizing from my old growrooms to this small closet. But actually i love it, i can now focus on upping the yield on a couple of plants, instead of having 40+ plants growing in 3 part cycle. My old grow was hydro so think i will go back to that at some point using LEDS, and see what that will get me.
Well that was my two pennys of thoughts regarding LED
happy growing everybody
I've got about 8 years of growing behind me so i've got a pretty good idea about how to keep a plant alive.
But also im no tech wiz actually im more of a technical retard. I got my first computer at age 21 for an example
so the hole LED world looked a bit confusing in my eye's. There is a lot more technical specs to consider when growing with LEDs and i thought i got the hole grower lingo pretty much under control.but then i met LED were people are talking NM, PAR, UMOL, tribands, quadbands, hexabands, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah and yes you go into brainfreeze, when the pro's start talking about it. Im still too green to educate anyone about anything regarding LEDs. But i thought i would post this thread, for those of you finding it hard to search the web on good hornest reviews on the smaller LED lights like Ufo's most treads i could google were either uncompleted or surely written as more of a salespitch rather than newbie helping guidelines. and not all smokers are well educated engineers or technicians so whats shit and whats cinnamon? my limited experience with my Ufo tells me that one of the key ingredients in growing with a small LED is Mylar and plenty of it. The Led footprint is very limited too under the lamp and depends one the spread on the lenses 60, 90, 10 or 120 degrees spread for an example. The degree of spread put together with the strength of the lenses wattage usage will determent the distance to the plant.. And you need as much reflecting material as possible to get light as much around your plant as possible. I found LST FIM and ROOT-trimming when repotting and not settling with a small shitty pot a good way to up your yield with the small 90w UFO. well nuff talk now ill just copy/paste some dry numbers and specs in my setup. that i have also posted regarding LED light in another tread. i just thought this info might be easier to find for newcomers if in its own thread, i found it difficult to find reliable materiel regarding a new technology when i started looking into this. So i hope this can be helpful for someone out there.
From my post on Thread :The Basics Of Plant Lighting. if new with LED you should read this Thread, this guy and alot of the commentators in the thread are much smarter on the subject than myself.
I use to flower using 1200w of hps. had to move to something smaller so stopped growing. now im getting back on the horse the LED horse that is. I must say so fare i am actually very impressed, and i was one of the real haters of LED five yeas ago. now im sitting here eating my own hat
I looked at alot of ufo's went with this one. found it on a regional "local" website. i paid around double of the going prices of the e-bay china models. around 220 dollars. i didn't want to get a bad first impression of the LEDs do to being a cheapskate, so i went after for something of better quality (in my opinion) than most of the e-bay ufo's i found. I know there are a lot of panels that will preform better, but i am trying to keep it small and on a fairly low budget. i think there is a lot of cheating with the specs regrding chipset lenses etc. when buying on e-bay (if your not a pro at buying e-bay stuff)
my hornest opinion of the lamp i got, is that it works great for smaller medical cabinets and closets.
90 watt ufo
45 x 3 watt chipset
Hexaband
Leds mounted
# Blue LED (430nm).
# Royal blue LED (450nm).
# Blue LED 475nm.
# Deep Red LED (660nm).
# Orange/Red LED (640nm).
# Orange/Red LED (630nm)
keep it around 30-40 cm 12-16 inches from my plants
for site lighting i've gone with.
2 x 12 watt E27 fitted LED lamps
for my upcoming seedling veg room i will go with two of these and two of somewhat similar lamps regarding watts but just with pure blue spectrum.
Blue LED (430nm)
Royal blue LED (450nm).
Blue LED 475nm.
Deep red LED (660nm).
Red LED (640nm).
used as side light
if used on top of plants about 8-12 cm 4-5 inches (you can actually grow a small plant to harvest with one of these small lamps and get not much but some smoke) my friend grew a LR in a small pot with one of these lamps and he is not a experienced grower he still pulled 5 dry grams off it, he put it in the window some few days when the sun was shinning but beside that it was just standing in the cabinet of his and i only feed it some cheep home depo garden fertz in had it in shitty soil.
i must say they (the ufo and my site lights) seem to preform quite well in both veg and flower
i have not yet mounted air intake or outtake in my closet. only a 35 watt circulation fan.
temps are fine. But got to fix it before the next summer hits im just going with two 12v pc fans
Right now i got 1 Bagseed female. planted two in the pot but one was male so i digged up from the pot a few days after inducing flowering stage. i've been fimming and doing LST since 3-4 sets of leafs.
Its growing just with the ufo light no side lighting want to see the ufo fly solo sort to say.
the pot is a 40 litre/about 10 gallon pot with a lot of drilled airholes around the side and in the bottom.
Using a biobizz light mix soil
Fertz BioBizz Grow, Bloom, Topmax and Alg-A-Mic somewere according too the schedule provided by biobizz on their web site.
I feed it some rootjuice when repotted and root trimmed as well when repotted.
the two bagseeds looked like this after repotting and growing for about one week in the new pot. as mentioned earlier one was male and it got removed after inducing floweringstage when the first pollensacks occured. it looked very femaleish tho. tight inbetween internotes and not as streetchy as i found males often to be. if both would have been female it would have been a tight fit in the closet so its no plroblem that one was male
Now its going on day 30 of flower and looks like this
My last grow were six Lowriders Roadrunner and RQS auto cheese, they started potted outside late summer and got a lot of rain even two attacks of hail
they grew in shitty cheep soil with stonelayers gravel instead of perlite. but i still got to pull 60+ grams dried from 5 of them the last one i cut down a bit premature so did'nt get the weight from that one. they only had one month under the Ufo and it really did something good with those six saggy titted garden hoes of sorry plants i had started growing actually i just paid for my LR seeds thinking i could get a quick one in there on an "indian summer". when the seeds were germinated the sun said bye bye and rain and hail said hey hey. As any hornest grower in here will know. Something inside me was screaming something like AAAAAAARH!!!!! when i saw my little plants looking more and more beat down and soggy in my small gardenpatch. so yeah i ended up spending 350 dollars to save six saggy sobbing plants
When you start growing it gets under your skin and you cant seem to do less than your best for the babies.this is a picture of the six LR and my two bagseeds LR 26days old looking pretty sorryass imo. The bagseeds with the lst are about 40 days old. The one in the red pot is the female i've got upstairs in this thread. Just when i mounted the Ufo, i had a big distance between light and plants, i then regulated the distance over the next week or so, untill i found what seemed to be the hotspot of the optimal distance.
so this is the roadrunners and RQS auto cheese around 60 days from popping the seeds
So must say that me personally im satisfied with my small LED lamps. Iv'e paid around 350 bucks for my closet in all and it should last me at least 3 years. Im not pulling the yields i was doing before, but when i get proberly into the LEDs i expect to surpass my hps yields pr. squarefeet at some point. when i get some 5 watt leds in my next closet, a have a secret plan on how to get me some massive buds even at the bottom of the bushy-ish bushes but thats for another thread later in life
its a massive downsizing from my old growrooms to this small closet. But actually i love it, i can now focus on upping the yield on a couple of plants, instead of having 40+ plants growing in 3 part cycle. My old grow was hydro so think i will go back to that at some point using LEDS, and see what that will get me.
Well that was my two pennys of thoughts regarding LED
happy growing everybody
, what is your goal / estimate final harvest ?
my guess is that it will be ready around week elleven. tree nute feeds more and then a week-ish of flushing
your plant did great , lets just disagree on this one !
