Whats up Mag?? I am back with a garden update

Today marks day 15 of Flower 2nd day of the 3rd week. The garden will continue to receive the necessary water and nutrients and hopefully they will continue to thrive.. It looks like things are starting to heat up and soon we should have some good bud porn...
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4x4
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4x8
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early bud development on the Future

Since the flowering tents are on cruise control for the next couple of weeks I have shifted my attention to training the young ladies in Veg. I would say about half of the plants are undergoing training. As I stated in the my previous post, most of the plants have a rather large stretch in between the 3rd and 4th node, so to combat that I popped the stem like you would if you were supercropping and made my bend there. The goal was to try and close the gap between branches and make the spacing as symmetrical as possible. All the plants are looking very good imo, especially the clones in cups.. It really feels good to have plants in multiple stages again..
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group shot
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clones in cups
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the split on the glue
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super cropping of the main stem for training
 
Flower day 18
Veg day 22

Today was humbling. It was one of those days that lets you know that you arent perfect. These days can be sobering, but these days provide growth..

When you are a passionate grower and you have a plant that comes down with some form of sickness you take it personally. I remember when my perpetual grow became infested with PM and how it made me feel.. I remember how hard it was to say goodbye to my stable of genetics.. I pheno hunted and collected some heaters.. In detroit there is a pheno of jillybean that is incredible.. I have heard people in denver talk about a candy store pheno and I dont know if this was that but its smell fits the description... Super frosty like it was incrusted with crystals and the fall colors during late flower were full of twilight. Kimbo Kush... Spirit in the sky.. GG4.. And I lost them all because I fucked up.. I took a clone from a friend and it had PM, but I didnt know until it was too late... It spread like wild fire.. infected everything and at that point there is only one way to get rid of it.. Start Fresh!! You can fight it all you want but once a plant has it, its there forever.. Period.. You can slow it down but you can never just forget about it..

Todays lessons arent that harsh.. Flowering is going smooth.. Not flawless, but acceptable. First thing I noticed today was that I overestimated the stretch period. If I did it all over again I would not have done the final tuck. I would have preferred 6 more inches above the canapy.. On a positive note I dont think I will need a second layer of trellis.. In Area 51 I have 4 plants.. Back left is Desire, Back Right is Purple Punch, front right is Puta's Breath and front left is Future. This tent seems to be the most mistake ridden.. The plants stretched the least and the PB has some sort of deficiency or toxicity. I believe it is Calcium that the plant isnt getting but deficiencys can be tricksters so you never know. Now the old me would have overreacted and rushed to fix it. One of the plus factors to organic nutrients is things tend to fix themselves.. I dont want to change my feedings drastically because that can lead to other problems like a doctor prescribing medication to treat the side of affect of a different medication. I'd rather stay the course and keep an eye on it.. I noticed it 2 days ago and it doesnt seem to be getting worse. Fingers crossed it stays the course

Veg is fun.. One of my weakest areas is training during veg and it feels great to be learning.. Thank you guys for that.. It feels great falling back in love with 420mag.. I have been to other sites but this place feels like home to me..

I think I am starting to get a good feel for the training.. I am starting to see what I did right and where I went wrong.. I guess thats a good segway into Gorrilla Glue.. It looks like I am going to give tri-lining a try.. They said it was bound to be and they were right.. I think I might try to mainline a few that have bad nodal spacing because at this point.. Why not. Everything is very similar and by the end of this I should have a good Ideal of what fits me best.

I need to take my high rambling ass to sleep..

Take it easy
 
Hey nice update was on Instagram and noticed Thugpug came out with the new packaging so if you get the Peanut Butter Breath it comes with some free Garlic Breath. Thought I’d let you know just Incase you didn’t know. I’ve been think of grabbbing another pack for the vault or maybe one of his other strains.
 
Dude gromers stuff is bomb.. Mostly all ggg strain crosses but the proof is in the pudding, props to the man. I also heard he is dropping a whole new line this week? Love the puta breath.. Have grown that, peanut butter breath, cherry pie breath, slim sticky, garlic breath &meatbreath &have loved every single one. You are lucky to live in michigan man, im sure its a lot easier to get cuts of thug pug there lol. Everything in your tent looks great man, a lot of my favourite symbiotics genetics as well. Oh also, future is gg4 x starfighter which is lemon alien dawg x tahoe alien.. Another fave lol. Keep up the good work, subbed for sure!
 
That's a sweet deal. I have seen some amazing phenos of both cultivars, but bad timing for me. Are you grabbing any to add to the vault??

I’m going to wait until after Christmas before picking anything up. This time of year is a killer on the wallet.

Also picked up another pack of pbb three days ago, i hope those garlic breath freebies are in there cos the price jumped up from $80 to $100 in one drop lol!
If it’s the new package it should have the garlic breath freebies. The place I get mine are still 80.
 
Dude gromers stuff is bomb.. Mostly all ggg strain crosses but the proof is in the pudding, props to the man. I also heard he is dropping a whole new line this week? Love the puta breath.. Have grown that, peanut butter breath, cherry pie breath, slim sticky, garlic breath &meatbreath &have loved every single one. You are lucky to live in michigan man, im sure its a lot easier to get cuts of thug pug there lol. Everything in your tent looks great man, a lot of my favourite symbiotics genetics as well. Oh also, future is gg4 x starfighter which is lemon alien dawg x tahoe alien.. Another fave lol. Keep up the good work, subbed for sure!

Welcome to the Journal its great to have you follow along.. You know you would think it would be easy to find cuts of gromers gear, but I dont see too many people sharing his cuts.. Maybe there just too good or maybe I am just not in the right loops.. Probably a little bit of both.. You've grown some cuts I would love to have in my stable.. In the future when things become more normal I plan to build up my vault and thug pug will take up a good portion of it.. Thanks for the correction on the future.. its always good to have a convo with someone who knows there genetics.. If I understand it correctly isnt the cube Starfighter F3??
 
I’m going to wait until after Christmas before picking anything up. This time of year is a killer on the wallet.


If it’s the new package it should have the garlic breath freebies. The place I get mine are still 80.

Dude I understand completely.. This time of year is always rough for me with as big of a family as I have, but this year is really crazy.. I havent worked in two and half months and all of it has been unpaid. We are getting by with the help of some amazing people, but its been tight
 
Flower Day 21
Veg day 25

So lets start in Veg.. Things are going smoothly.. quadling does slow things down a bit more than what I am use to, but I dont mind.. These plants will be replacing the plants in flower and I still have 42 days before I harvest so time is on my side.. I think you will be able to see that I had a few plants that I wasnt sure on what I wanted to do.. The spacing between nodes on the Putas breath really makes this kind of training tough, but today I pulled the trigger and just went for it.. GG4 is not the happiest camper right now so I am leaving her alone for the next few days until her temperament returns to normal. Some of the plants that I have trained I look at and think "what were you doing there" and some I look at and think "dude you crushed it".. Learning curves..

All together now
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Training day
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The flowering plants are pushing along. I've started to see some early trichome production and I am getting excited.. My early favorite has got to be the future.. I've had mixed results with this plant, but when I have had her dialed in she is purty.. The foliage is still very dense, so I spent the past couple of days thinning out fan leaves.. The deficiency in the Putas Breath is getting worse and it is showing up in both plants. I still feel like it is Calmag deficiency, but what I am seeing doesnt match exactly any description of any deficiency or any picture of deficiencies.. I have been feeding Boost(CalMag) on the low end of the feeding chart so it kinda makes sense.. I flushed the plants yesterday in hopes to reset the soil and then I fed them with an increased strength of Boost.. Hopefully that settles it.. Even with the deficiency PB is look good so far

Bertha
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Area 51
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Future
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Putas Breath
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Garden Update
Veg day 32
Flower day 28

Its been a week since my last update and a lot has happened since. Starting in the Veg room all of the plants have been transplanted into their final homes (5 gal pots). I showed off the semi quadline training to a few friends and they are impressed. I think they are having a hard time seeing what the plants will become, but I can see it and I'm getting excited. The clones are gone, but before they left my house they developed a deficiency. I believe my Ph might have been a little high and caused a lock out.. In the pics I am going to post you can see it on a couple of plants that were left behind.. All I have done to correct it is flushed the plants with RO water before I gave them a regular feeding.. The plants were in solo cups for 30 days and they might just have been pissed off they couldnt stretch their legs.. Hopefully in a week they will all bounce back..

Over Shot
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Cool Growth
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The Flower room is coming along really well in my opinion.. It isnt flawless(more on that later), but its starting to get pretty sexy in there. All quadrants have been defoliated and are on cruise control.. Last week I increased the wattage from 600 to a 1000.. The 4x8 runs around 81 degrees most of the day with max temps reaching 84. This is a little concerning for me, but the plants seem to be responding well to the increased lighting and temperatures.. The 4x4 runs around 79 degrees with max temps reaching 81. My only concern at the moment is the Putas Breath.. I have two in flower and both are fading early on me.. I dont know what the cause is.. I am leaning towards them being heavy feeders but nothing I do seems to stop it.. This is only my 2nd time flowering this cultivar, but last time it faded on me early as well. I wont lie its very frustrating, but even with the issues its still looking good in an all things considered kinda way.

4x4 Canopy shot
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Desire
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Purple Punch 2.0
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Future
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Putas Breath
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4x8 Canopy Shot
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A couple of cool surprises sprung up this week as well.. I got a new light :) and it arrived today. 630 CMH that replaced the 1000 watt in the 4x4.. So far I like it a lot.. Its very bright, but it runs a bit hotter than my air cooled hps.. The temps now run around 81.. I also got a new pack of seeds.. I picked up a pack of Buttafingaz(peanut butter breath x GDP x OGKB) from a michigan breeder named Third Coast Genetics. I've been a fan of his gear for a long time and I am excited to pop his beans.. I am also keeping my fingers crossed that tomorrow I might be gifted a pack of exotic genetics gear by a family member for christmas..

I hope everyone has a wonderful christmas
 
Oh man that buttafingaz sounds killer, i just got a few more packs of pbb.. That is one of my ultimate faves. Where did you aquire these third coast genetics? Never heard of them but have loved everything ive ever gotten from michigan. IMO michigan is as on top of it as oregon or cali.. &for being legal faaaaar less of an amount of time as those two.. Mad props. Love this journal man you should try for jotm. Keep up the good work!
 
@45thdegreeMP3 thanks for the heads up on Calmag. PB is a bit sensitive but she is most certainly worth figuring out. Third coast Genetics owner and breeder goes by maxyeilds on Ig and I contacted him there. I dont believe he has a huge following and for the life of me I dont know why. He is one of my favorite Mitten growers. Another good michigan follow is bonez grown or pure options. Thanks for the props for me and my state. I am a big fan of Oregon as well. I almost moved there and still might one day. If it wasnt so expensive I'd already be there. I had my eye on Salem.
 
@45thdegreeMP3 I planned on buying PBB especially with garlic breath freebies but when I seen he pulled out the buttafingaz from the vault I couldn't resists. The last time he released them I didn't have the funds and I've been kicking myself since. The only strain I want more than that is oreoz
 
@DonChiefums20 dude this method of training is awesome and I owe to you and your journal. I took your advice and went to @Asesino85 journal to learn from the sensei but seeing you experiment with different training methods is what inspired me
Thanks man than means a lot seeing that you were killing it before this I’m sure. I saw my bank has some 3rd Coast Genetics. I’m thinking of getting the some from his IG everything looks fire
 
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