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Can you recognize if the offsprings are good?

solareclipse

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Hi!!!
I do have a question from when I first started thus breeding thing.
We say backcross is nit so good coz the nexr generation maybe wont come the same.... maybe offsprings have different genetics.am i right?
Did i understand well?
If yes then how we keep the plant we choose that is the ONE?
If i find the and want to keep this strain hiw to keep it without colloidal silver and without backcross again.backcrosa will change the genes or traits or however they call it..
 

solareclipse

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I think i will harvest one by one every day...or some more..
Cant wait anymore..
40-50% good seeds the lowest...
All plants are a long time .is full of trichomes i will use it to make some oil.
Probably i will chop them today.i have some more old buds,some sugar leaves i will use and this to make some hash oil...
I will decarboxylate them and after yhat i will use isopropyl alcohol to extract the gold..
 

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Jackalope

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Colloidal silver is the best way to retain certain genetics. It is selfing that single plant not back crossing.

Nothing wrong with backcrossing. F-2 is the tricky one. It will have the most different phenos. Anywhere from really good to really bad. It is great for finding things. Not a good thing if you plan to consume your plants. Too many could be crap.
 

solareclipse

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Colloidal silver is the best way to retain certain genetics. It is selfing that single plant not back crossing.

Nothing wrong with backcrossing. F-2 is the tricky one. It will have the most different phenos. Anywhere from really good to really bad. It is great for finding things. Not a good thing if you plan to consume your plants. Too many could be crap.
Ok...i understand..
When the time comes Maybe i will send u message..
I see purple buds and leaves..
"Buds" = *SMALL buds between seed
THANK YOU Jackalope!!!!
I will update from now and then so we can speak aboyt it sometimes.if u don't mind.
U r a good person.
I am glad to meet u.
 

Jackalope

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Yes of course keep me updated. Glad I could help. Purple is always cool to see. I am finding it more and more these days as genetics get really mixed up.

Do you have close to 13 hrs of daylight year around?
 

solareclipse

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Yes of course keep me updated. Glad I could help. Purple is always cool to see. I am finding it more and more these days as genetics get really mixed up.

Do you have close to 13 hrs of daylight year around?
Thanks..
Yrs yes i live in Mediterranean Island..
Just some more minutes a d 13 hours light....
Warm...25-27celcium
 

Jackalope

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That explains why you have so much going on LMAO.

Now for the bad news. Autoflowers are not going to do well in that amount of light. They like to have 16 to 20 hrs of light all the way through to fill out and produce. With that amount of light lots of regular strains will flower fine. Basically everything will autoflower there. Temps may be a problem at times but light is perfect for year around growing.

I know you have mostly Autoflower genetics. Pretty sure you mentioned photoperiod strains also. This also explains why you never lose your autoflower traits. As you move forward just concentrate on the very best weed with the fullest buds. Short plants are also something to look at with your height issues.

As long as the plants are put out small they will start flowering as soon as the mature. With trimming and bending you can keep them short enough to work.

Photoperiod strains are going to do better for you in the long run. It will have higher THC plus there will be more of it. As long as you stay away from pure sativas you can keep plants short enough. Hawaii basically has 4 growing seasons a year because of this. Lots of those plants are short because of a short life with no real veg time. So if you start your seeds indoors with 20 hrs of light. Just as soon as you move them outside they will go into flower. You can grow from seed outdoors too but it is best to give them a good start with lots of light so they can have some veg time.

From the looks of things. The plants you are growing don't even come close to the top of the wall. 1 to 2 foot plants with a 3 to 4 foot wall. Looks to me like they could be a foot or so taller. Starting photoperiod strains outside will also help them stay short. You may find that you need to do it to keep them short enough.

Don't worry about having to switch all your genetics around. As you breed for only the strongest weed. The photoperiod genetics will shine through. As you buy more seeds go with photoperiod strains not autoflower. You will be a lot happier with the outcome.

Sorry for not bring this up earlier. It was in the back of my mind you might be in a area like that. I should have asked to begin with. All the information we have exchanged is still all the same. I would just ignore any autoflower stuff you see. The only way to be sure they are autos now would be to grow them indoors anyway.
 

solareclipse

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That explains why you have so much going on LMAO.

Now for the bad news. Autoflowers are not going to do well in that amount of light. They like to have 16 to 20 hrs of light all the way through to fill out and produce. With that amount of light lots of regular strains will flower fine. Basically everything will autoflower there. Temps may be a problem at times but light is perfect for year around growing.

I know you have mostly Autoflower genetics. Pretty sure you mentioned photoperiod strains also. This also explains why you never lose your autoflower traits. As you move forward just concentrate on the very best weed with the fullest buds. Short plants are also something to look at with your height issues.

As long as the plants are put out small they will start flowering as soon as the mature. With trimming and bending you can keep them short enough to work.

Photoperiod strains are going to do better for you in the long run. It will have higher THC plus there will be more of it. As long as you stay away from pure sativas you can keep plants short enough. Hawaii basically has 4 growing seasons a year because of this. Lots of those plants are short because of a short life with no real veg time. So if you start your seeds indoors with 20 hrs of light. Just as soon as you move them outside they will go into flower. You can grow from seed outdoors too but it is best to give them a good start with lots of light so they can have some veg time.

From the looks of things. The plants you are growing don't even come close to the top of the wall. 1 to 2 foot plants with a 3 to 4 foot wall. Looks to me like they could be a foot or so taller. Starting photoperiod strains outside will also help them stay short. You may find that you need to do it to keep them short enough.

Don't worry about having to switch all your genetics around. As you breed for only the strongest weed. The photoperiod genetics will shine through. As you buy more seeds go with photoperiod strains not autoflower. You will be a lot happier with the outcome.

Sorry for not bring this up earlier. It was in the back of my mind you might be in a area like that. I should have asked to begin with. All the information we have exchanged is still all the same. I would just ignore any autoflower stuff you see. The only way to be sure they are autos now would be to grow them indoors anyway.
I am not sure from where i must start to reply ....
I want to say that after may the photoperiod plants outdoor won't flowering till September...
If i could grow a photo plant outdoor guerilla from one plant ,from now till end September i can get a kilo from each plant.if not,700 gr to a kilo.
But i dont have this space...i wish i could have a place like this.
Something i must mention is all my outdoor autoflowering grows the plants always comes too small
..one foot. This is what i want now. 1 foot plant in height.BUT INDOORS always gowes to 2-5 feet,mostly more than 2 feet.
I am talking with a small L.S.T. this height numbers..
Not just to leav it grow normally.
Also its a couple or more months i cant grow outdoor coz of cold.
Under 10celcium is only for maybe 20 days.. after that is 10-14 celcium.the bad months for grow.
I have to find a strain flowering 7 weeks to get feminised seeds from this to keep my grow Stealth.
I am thinking to use some on ground with pots.
To put the pots in the ground.
For Stealth purpose.i will see
I have this amnesia -anesthesia and i use a fertilizer who locks the nitrogen and is getting ready!!!!!
Smelll all the place there. I did see as i watch it buds get harder bud not thicker.
I use this fertilizer and made it ready quicker than normal.this is the one i use COLLOIDAL SILVER to one branch and i think i wont catch it up in time.
This branch needs more time to produce pollen.but this plant from the magnifier i see needs 10 more day's or i can delay to 20 days...and thats problem.
I hope i wont have any problems with the northern light which already have pollen sacks...
 

Jackalope

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The Northern Lights genetics might help you keep everything short. The things you mentioned will stop you from growing year around. Still when you can grow outside the photos will do better than the autoflower. Autoflower strains need tons of light to do well.

You just need short. That can be done with training. You just need to train your plants so they are wider not taller. As long as you stay with plants that don't stretch much you should be able to make things work.

As long as you continue to breed for the traits you like you should be able to keep your plants short. Just breed the plants that stay short but produce lots of trichomes. Like Angela. Make her stronger but not taller.

Like I mentioned this shouldn't change much with what you plan to do. I was just saying the Autoflower part isn't as important as you think. All you have to do is replace short and bushy for any autoflower traits. You are still going to breed a strain that works for you under your conditions. Not having to worry about autoflower traits will only make things easier. If there is some Autoflower traits left over in what you breed no big deal. Your plan was for stronger weed and better production. This you should still get. There are some bad assed strains that never get very tall.
 

solareclipse

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Yes i understand about autoflowering trait's...
The truth is if i grow outdoor a photoperiod on junary after 25 days it will start to flowering...i see a driend of mine he lives on mountain's ....
Wwooowwwww i see a bushy plant no name strain on march ready and had 550 gr on...
I told him its ok coz i see signs of regenerate and told him to cut it down or leave it to get a giant on September.so he told me :
-cut it down.
O just cut all the branches and my hands ,not jist my fingers my whole hands was totally black from resin..
This is when i realized about our weather is better for photoperiod plant's.imagine to plant outdoor on winter and on the Spring to have already some for harvest.
Ask him what he did on the bad -cold days and he just use some plastic to cover it over these day's..
Now this person every season get a few kilos from good strains...
I saw him some things about training and a shop to buy fertilizer .and now he is growing strains he buy from seedbanks
This guy accidental touhht me a lot...
While I try to teach him he taught me.
Sometimes our year round is no winter..
Yes it can pass 2-3 years with a fake winter.no less than 15 Celsius the weather..
Ohhhh must say i play 2 says ago a bet on some teams...and i won..
So i play one more ..i won again...
I play 5 times and i won the 4 of them...
I get 1000 euro and i was party yesterday after i visit a cannabis shop and the grow shop for some supplies.
It was that money a nice present for this time i was totally broke.
 

solareclipse

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Here is some fotos from outdoor.
 

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solareclipse

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I got some more pictures...lol....
The tall one is one og true auto...
The other one is a F2 with a nice amount of trichomes already.....
 

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solareclipse

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solareclipse

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Nice strain of this one..
True Og Autoflowering ..
 

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solareclipse

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@Jackalope my friend i have problems....
The male pollen sacks doesnt produced any pollen....they get old and die without opening..do u know anything about this?
Ever heard similar?
 

Jackalope

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If they were on the plants you were treating with Colloidal Silver. Then yes. I have had plants I was trying to reverse to make feminized seeds. Produce pollen sacks without pollen. Not all strains are going to react the same to the treatment.

I have never had the trouble with true males.
 
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