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Caution with dogs

420explorer

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I also remember watching my friend's miniature beagle rocking back and forth, unable to sit in one place. It was like here cerebellum was out of whack. I look at her, she's got the saddest fucking look on her little adorable face and I'm like what's wrong and then I see my friend's empty gram container of hash and I'm like oh fuck. She was one sleepy puppers. Can't remember if she threw up but I do remember her doing a lot of sleeping on the couch. My friend kept checking on her and she seemed fine, just super baked. In the end, she ended up being just fine from what we could tell but I think it goes without saying: be careful where you place your meds and certainly don't leave them laying around where a dog could snatch them and gobble them up.
 

Nunyabiz

Well-Known Member
We give our Chihuahua 2mg of CBD everyday.
If theres a thunderstorm or fireworks then we give her 4mg.

We started giving it to her when she was bitten by a copperhead.
She was in severe pain from the bite and her belly got a giant sack of fluid that bulged out. She couldn't stand up without yelping.
I drove to nearest place to get CBD and gave her 4mg, within 20 to 30 minutes she jumped off the couch and walked to the door asking to go out to pee.
We were sold on it after that.
 

webeblzr

Member
I was approached a a few years ago now, by a family member, concerning their dog and the seizure meds their vet was giving him.
Phenobarbital had worked wonders for the wee taco bell dog, for 5-6 years, until recently, the dog started to seize with the meds, so vet tells my friend, "hey man, we are at the upper limit of the PB, and I can only increase the dose, however it will become toxic to his small body, so either the PB or a seizure gets him, but his days are numbered."

My friend wants to know about CBD's and his dog, and ask the vet about them. Vet tells him that would be a good idea, but prepare yourself if they do not.
So my friend gets some from on line. He tried a few drops, as the dog was seizing under his meds, but saw him show some signs of relief....maybe.
I told him it would be a subtle reaction. So I set about reading anything I can get my hands on, and come to realize, sometimes hermie plants can pump out a lot a of CBD's as they are changing, BUT they also have THC forming.

I used 1 cup polyglycol and vegetable glycerine, with 7 grams of the hermie plant, in a pint mason jar, in a crock pot, with timer, and set it to ON 4 hours, off 2, set a phone alert, so I can go shake the jar wild and crazy like for a few minutes, and restart, for 7 days.
Once I removed the jar, I tried a tablespoon of the mixture, and felt nothing. I contacted my friend, told him and his wife exactly what I did, and they were very happy to try something, but knew it could be nothing but a waste of time.

They started to give him 2 drops, 3 times a day, with his Phenobarbital now he was seizing 5+ times a day or more, so ANY relief was a blessing.
By day 3, no seizures, but tremors still could be seen. I got a call on day 7, telling me they just got back from vet, and vet was blown away with his demeanor!
We started to reduce the Phenobarbital after the second week, and started to give him 4-5 drops 3 times a day, and reduced the Phenobarbital by 1/4 dose.
2nd week, reduced by 1/2 a dose.
3rd week all drops no Phenobarbital!!
Then we just watched and waited until we remade the drops a second time. Exactly as first time, and he did not miss a beat.

We are now starting the 4th year, he had no Phenobarbital only the drops. The funny thing is, CBD ALONE will not stop the tremors or seizures.
When I ran out of the hermie plant I had in my freezer for years, we tried just some buds the guy could get, 4 grams of bud will make 2 cups of extracts.

Now for the SIDE EFFECTS:
There were 2 very distinct changes took place.
1st one, food bowl aggression, he had a terrible food bowl aggression, so bad if the kids went into the kitchen when food was in the bowl, he would snarl and snap, as he stood by the bowl.
Well that went by by in the 3-4th week of the drops!!

2nd, he HATED being around kids. If they came into a room he was sleeping in, he'd snarl and jump down and scurry away very unhappy. By the end of the first month, he was laying with the kids, he would even sleep with them!!
So NO I do not want to ever dose up any creature with weed, unless they have a medical issue. Then tiny amounts, with less THC and more CBD.
 

Magnus8

Well-Known Member
Hi all,

I have a question. My love, Molly, an English setter x border collie has cancer of the maladies. Breast cancer. It just struck me, after making an appointment with the vet on the 28th for Molly to go and sleep with the Angel's, that I havent tried to cure her with weed yet.

Can ANYONE direct me to a good, reputable site that will guide me how much to dose for her size?

Any help would be greatly appreciated...

Best,
Magnus
 

webeblzr

Member
Hello Magnus,
So sorry to read of your dogs plight.
One of the horrible effects from many years of the false demonization of cannabis by all the world's governments has left a giant hole of real knowledge how cannabis can help us, and our four legged friends also.
When I was approached for help, I set out and for days searched, every place for any scrap of knowledge I could find.
I found a dog breeder feeding his dogs whole plant cannabis in their food for a intestinal parasite, that his given breed suffers from and can be fatal, with decent results.
There is so little I could find, and honestly, in our case, time was going to win, and the owner, was reading what I could find, so he took the lead and said to make it, and lets try.
For this wee chuchuhuahua dog, we found 7 grams of cannabis to a cup of polyglycol and vegetable glycerine mix, would keep him from seizures, without the PhenoBarbital.
We also are having fantastic results from a lady with MS with the same extractors PG/VG but with more cannabis.
There is so much relief to offer those suffering that may fall outside the realm of modern petroleum based compounded medicines, however the stigma created by despicable characters from our past, is hard to shake off.
Best to ya!!
 

Grassmaster

Active Member
I say this is probably just scare tactics of the media. To keep everyone afraid of the medicine. Just use a strain with low THC and High CBD. The CBD keeps you from getting too high. Start the dog on low doses and monitor. A squirt in the dogs favorite wet food heh heh.
 

webeblzr

Member
Hey Grassmaster, [I say this is probably just scare tactics of the media. To keep everyone afraid of the medicine. ]
About 5 years ago, I met a lady who was seeking cannabis for her Multiple Sclerosis symptoms. When she would wake up, it took her and her husband 45 minutes to get her out of bed. Clawed hands, muscles that are almost knotted, just horrible pain EVERY DAY!! I just can not even imagine.
A friend of hers had known about how it helped the wee taco bell dog, and told her about it.
The MS lady has never been a stoner, or even sampled during her college years. She asked to meet me, and have a talk about cannabis, and if it could help her.
She is an amazing lady with a rock solid husband, she exercises, shadow boxes, stays busy with her work, and had decided the MS will not beat her.....however she was over 10 years since they found her lesions at Johns hopkins, and her medicines seemed to be not quite doing there job, and horrible painful way of waking up EVERY DAMNED DAY, had me sleepless for months as we tried this and that.

Tinctures, butters, extracts, freaking nothing gave her a better day. I gave her cookies strong enough to knock me right out and I'm almost a 50 year toker!! She would eat 3-4 and get NOTHING from it!! I made her extracts potent enough for a cancer patient to feel less pain...did NOTHING for her!!
I was honestly at my wits end, when I asked her why she did not want to simply smoke some weed, to simply give me one month, not talking about going Rasta, or blunt building, but just a few hits as you wake.

The stigma of weed smokers, that was her fear, the other fear, when she asked her MS doctor about MMJ, he bristled up, and and in a very hateful manner told her, if he found weed in her urine, she would be tossed out of the subsidy program!!

Her quality of life was demanding better treatment, so she told me she would try a few hits.
I gave her a tiny glass bowl, with some glass screens, and an old grinder, and a couple of grams, of what I happened to be growing.
What she found was this: her husband (non-stoner) would wake, fill her wee tiny bowl, hold it to her lips, light it, so all she needed to do was inhale, 2-3 puffs!!!

2-3 puffs of some weed, and she can get out of bed in 5-7 minutes over 45+ minutes of searing agony until her muscles would relax, her fingers would unclaw, her shoulders, and back, would eas up greatly.

I'm openly just a stoner, so I grow out whatever we (wife and I) find interesting as head candy, and for edibles.
I had also started seed strain searching, crawling through any of threads on MS, cannabis boards, whatever wherever.

I found NAW or Nerds At Work, over at Sannies, and their strains are mostly geared to the MMJ side of cannabis.
Where I found G-39 that changed my friends life for the better. Other strains are helping her, and she was happy with what I gave her, but once I got the beans, grew them out, cured it for her, we got 4.5 ounces, we packed away in mason jars and into her freezer.
She will make that last her MANY years, as the amount that gives her a great quality of life, is maybe in the 1/4 gram per day range!

So yeah, lots of misinformation still clouding up the MMJ water so to speak,.
 

Grassmaster

Active Member
When you smoke it. It goes straight to the brain. So that would be more of an instant effective for an MS patient. I've heard of people that supposedly can't get a buzz off of eddibles. But with my tincture only top of the line stoners smoking the strongest stuff don't respond heavily to my tincture.
 
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