Honestly bro, I hope that you are wrong about those same chinese flea market LEDs being penetrators for a 1/10th the price...Hi Outdoorsman, sorry to hear that! I don't know about anyone else, but I would be glad to hear any excuses that Cammie might have given though I doubt that her tactics have changed. I would also like to know why you decided to buy the light? Did you see an advertisement, see a grow on a web site, word of mouth or what?
You posted; "It has 25% more power consumption at 30% more intensity". There's one of the problems, Cammies sales pitch and all web site posted information is BS. Here's the deal, if you plug the light in and the LEDs illuminate, you will be fine. It is just not a quality light so don't crowd it too much because it won't really penetrate! The canopy will grow well if you keep the light close; 6-12in.
The problem is that one day the light will not illuminate when it is turned on or maybe just some othe LEDs won't come on. In my experience with 5 of her lights, one failed immediately and one failed within 4 months. That's a 20% failure rate with just one purchase. There is a Chinese web site that sells these LEDs (Cammies) and the 345w sells for $125.00. That's a big difference from the $1,150.00 that she charged me. The only difference is that she has her cases stamped Penetrator. The 126w are probably real cheap there. The up side could be that once Cameron/Cammie is out of the picture, the Chinese web site is a replacement part source for anyone who owns an HGL light!
I'm not sure that legally, you would have to pay a restocking fee for a product that has not left the factory yet. And, you could dispute through PayPal because you found out that the company was criminal and wanted to cancel before you had taken possession of the product. Regardless, what's done is done; I would just say this, if you are not 100% legal you should not let her/him know anything about what you are doing. I have no doubt that when Cameron/Cammie gets busted, and it is not a matter of if, it is a matter of when, he/she will use all of the information that has been gathered through the MJ community to cut a deal for a lesser sentence!!
Also, did you tell her that you wanted to back out of the deal because you had read this thread?
Please correct any misinformation she provided to me in terms of How LEDs work, I realize I only posted a couple emails, as I was trying to answer some of your questions and share a juicy email at the same time. If you consider a sales pitch information than we are on two different pages. All of that info on wavelengths and nanometers is not easy to come by on cannabis forums, so if she is Mis-guiding a customer as to how LEDs work than please correct it for my sake.Outdoorsman wrote:
"There is actually a lot of good information in here"
No Outdoorsman, there is not; but that's why the scam works so well. Those of us that do not know and are trying to learn are taken in by her impressive babble. I'm not trying to be disrespectful or accuse you of anything, but, did you verify any of the information with any LED knowledgeable sources, or did you just declare it "good information"? That's why Cammie is an "expert", she declares it and people just accept it and pass it on! If you don't accept it, you are an "ignorant asshole" and your thoughts are not valid!
And you said:
"but she did a good job at answering all my questions."
It is easy to answer questions when you can make up any answer that you want. The hard part is selling it to someone. And don't be fooled, Cameron is a top class salesman! You will have to look hard to find a slicker snake oil peddler than him, he is very confident in his abilities and he has much practice at his trade.
And besides, I think that Cameron possesses the powers of the Hypno-Toad!!!