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Droopy leaves? Help please

moderngroroom

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strain-2 critical purple 2 northern lights
critical purple-90%indica 10% ruderalis
northern lights-80%indica/ 10% sativa/ 10% ruderalis
phase - flower
phase - 1 week
indoor grow
soil- fox farm ocean forest
pots -3 gallons
inline fan
temps - 77/81 depending on daytime temps they jump around alot but always in them numbers
rh-45%\50%
ph-6.4
pest havent seen any
watering every 3-4 days
ferts- ff
lights- optic 4 led 3500k/5000k
strains cp/nl
plants 4 total


Watered yeaturday plants were looking good the soil was completely dry so i watered in watered till pot was heavy 8hrs pass still fine hr before lights off plants leafs droopy bad.. could i have watered to much or what is going on with it..its the critical purple auto thats doing it. First time ever feeding the plant yesturday in only bc i was getting it food for flowering hardly fead it at all water had a lil shade of brown in ph water to 6.4.. the soil didnt want to soak up the water so the run off that came out i ran it back threw.. can u over water in just one watering.. idk why there drooping i kicked my lights over to bloom also and lowered from 36 inches to about 30 inches... pot seems to have lost a little weight no way it should need a watering already in less then 18 hrs.... the pot is still moist in the pic one branch is broke at top disregard the looks of it
 

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Amadeus Forzin

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I had a plant that used to put itself to sleep about an hour before lights off. Come lights on it was fine. See how she is when the lights come back on.
 

moderngroroom

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I had a plant that used to put itself to sleep about an hour before lights off. Come lights on it was fine. See how she is when the lights come back on.
Ill do it thank you
 

vyserage

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I cant say for certainty but my plants in soil are also droopy since watering over a day ago. About as droopy as yours. Best i can offer is just let that soil dry out and see how it improves. There aren't any deficiency's in there so looks like the only sign you have of anything is droop. I keep wanting to say maybe you need more perlite but i see some in that soil. Maybe not enough? Secondary opinions.

When it dries out again, try watering it half as much. See how it goes then.
Also those plants can handle more light seeing as you're at 30", try for 24". If the leaves love it they will point upwards.
 

vyserage

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Do you know what the PPM of water in vs water out is at? Just another tool to help diagnose. I dont necessarily feel this will lead anywhere but hey you never know. Its always possible you have to much of a certain nutrient and its causing issues.
 

HempFire

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What fox farm products did you feed with and at what rates? How long since potting/transplanting?
Some of the photos look like over-watering (whole leaf drooping) and a few show nitrogen toxicity (leaf tip clawing downward)
 

MassMedMan

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Nice training going on there. Love the use of wire. Good job there.

They'll be fine. Did they pray before you watered them?

Im not loving the idea of putting runoff back through the plant. Especially with feed. I dunno.

Change of lights could be a factor. Those are also new leaves (nitrogen rich it appears, could be the strain) from the training and not fully developed.

The plants are also changing from a vegetative state to a flower state.

Lots of variables. Ride it out patiently. Don't make too many changes too often or quickly. Allow time to see what you did and how it affects the plant.

Good luck. Nice looking grow you have. You must have a green thumb.
 

moderngroroom

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What fox farm products did you feed with and at what rates? How long since potting/transplanting?
Some of the photos look like over-watering (whole leaf drooping) and a few show nitrogen toxicity (leaf tip clawing downward)
I used grow big 1ml, open seasame 1/4 tps, big bloom 1ml cal-mag 4ml , and comeback 1ml all mixed in a gallon of water at ph of 6.5 they were started in the 3 gallons everything was fine till i feed them for the first time trying to give them some flower nutes slowly iv raised the humidity and lowered lights some more there starting to come back around i dont get it
 

moderngroroom

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Nice training going on there. Love the use of wire. Good job there.

They'll be fine. Did they pray before you watered them?

Im not loving the idea of putting runoff back through the plant. Especially with feed. I dunno.

Change of lights could be a factor. Those are also new leaves (nitrogen rich it appears, could be the strain) from the training and not fully developed.

The plants are also changing from a vegetative state to a flower state.

Lots of variables. Ride it out patiently. Don't make too many changes too often or quickly. Allow time to see what you did and how it affects the plant.

Good luck. Nice looking grow you have. You must have a green thumb.
No idk what u mean by praying, thanks yeah they looking pretty good besides this. Iv never feed except for this time, they seem to be responding to lower light to 24 inches and raisimg humidity
 

MassMedMan

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When the leaves pray to the lights. Basically the opposite of what they're doing now.
 

moderngroroom

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When the leaves pray to the lights. Basically the opposite of what they're doing now.
Ill have go look that up should i raise the light or try in see if they like it
 

vyserage

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What he means is the leaves are happily pointed upwards towards the light, meaning they are very happy with the light they are getting.

Last night for me, i had my lights at 21" from top of canopy. I lowered light to 15" from top of canopy and went to sleep. Woke up and the lights had been on for roughly an hour and the leaves were all still pointing upwards as if reaching for more light. This could mean i can still lower my lights but im taking it slowly day by day to see how they do. If i see the top leaves are starting to fold in on themselves (known as leaf taco) that means my light is too close and im going to damage my leaves if i leave it there for too long.

Once you've got a grow or 2 in, you'll understand your lights capabilities.
 

moderngroroom

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What he means is the leaves are happily pointed upwards towards the light, meaning they are very happy with the light they are getting.

Last night for me, i had my lights at 21" from top of canopy. I lowered light to 15" from top of canopy and went to sleep. Woke up and the lights had been on for roughly an hour and the leaves were all still pointing upwards as if reaching for more light. This could mean i can still lower my lights but im taking it slowly day by day to see how they do. If i see the top leaves are starting to fold in on themselves (known as leaf taco) that means my light is too close and im going to damage my leaves if i leave it there for too long.

Once you've got a grow or 2 in, you'll understand your lights capabilities.
Mine have never done that lol in im using an optic 4 suppose to be a pretty damn good light
 

vyserage

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I've found generally all lights are recommended at a 24" from canopy height, especially at your stage. Even lower in flower(usually 16" to 18" i think) I like to go the first 2 weeks at 36", then i go down to 24" and gradually lower it every few days until i see ill effects (leaf taco) or until i feel like any closer isn't necessary. Since im still guage'ing my own lights, that's why im trying at 15" from canopy. I can adjust my lights power though so ive got more ways i can fine tune when compared to one you cant adjust power levels.

Do you know how many watts the actual draw of your light is?
 

moderngroroom

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I've found generally all lights are recommended at a 24" from canopy height, especially at your stage. Even lower in flower(usually 16" to 18" i think) I like to go the first 2 weeks at 36", then i go down to 24" and gradually lower it every few days until i see ill effects (leaf taco) or until i feel like any closer isn't necessary. Since im still guage'ing my own lights, that's why im trying at 15" from canopy. I can adjust my lights power though so ive got more ways i can fine tune when compared to one you cant adjust power levels.

Do you know how many watts the actual draw of your light is?
Here ya go
 

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