Five Bits Of Indica: New420guy’s Seeds

[Emilya]

@MrSauga @InTheShed @Emilya
This ones an odd ball... she’s the only one yellowing like this. Any ideas?
Shes Glue Cookies strain and had been temperamental since early on. I had to feed extra cal/mag+ In the first month because she was really pale compared to the others.

looks like K lockout to me, same damage top and bottom. Too much MC, IMHO.

 

[AdaminCO]

looks like K lockout to me, same damage top and bottom. Too much MC, IMHO.

Thanks Em... I was thinking that, or that I didn’t kill all of the fungus gnat larvae weeks ago.
No fliers or anything (I hit them with about 4 feeds with skeeter dunks) so I was suspecting a nute issue.
Hopefully that clearing out the other day helped. These were the lowers the day I flushed.

 

[InTheShed]

When my lower leaves look hungry for nitrogen I just bump the MC so the ratios stay in check. Adding cal-mag just for the N can throw a number of other elements out of balance as Emilya suggested. That's why using the lower leaves as a gauge as to when to up the MC is a good method of keeping track of the feeding, rather than overall paleness. Some plants will be a different color from the rest even at their healthiest. Trying to make all the different strains look identical might have been the start of the problem.

 

[AdaminCO]

When my lower leaves look hungry for nitrogen I just bump the MC so the ratios stay in check. Adding cal-mag just for the N can throw a number of other elements out of balance as Emilya suggested. That's why using the lower leaves as a gauge as to when to up the MC is a good method of keeping track of the feeding, rather than overall paleness. Some plants will be a different color from the rest even at their healthiest. Trying to make all the different strains look identical might have been the start of the problem.

Oh I wasn’t trying to add calmag. In the first few weeks of veg it was very pale so you told me to hit them with some calmag.
I was just throwing that in as a historical note for this one plant.
I was just asking what the issue is now. It’s yellowing everywhere. She’s saying too much MC, which I suspected since it was already temperamental.
Kind of reminded me when I had those gnat larvae in the soil, so I wanted to be sure that’s not what it is.

 

[InTheShed]

Oh, before the MC arrived, right. Flush and reset should help it then!

 

[AdaminCO]

Flush and reset should help it then!

Yeah, just did that the day before last. Lol!

 

[InTheShed]

Right, that's what I was referring to .

 

[AdaminCO]

Right, that's what I was referring to .

I figured ya did.
This net wasn’t too bad to remove compared to the last one, but a few did rely on it more than I was expecting. This Glue Cookies and Darkstar strain would be awesome in a SCROG. Thinking or running one or two and filling a screen next go around.

 

[MrSauga]

I wouldn't worry about anything at this point. The plant looks like it's ready to come down soon so I would just finish off with MC until harvest. Trying to correct anything at this stage would be pointless imo.

 

[AdaminCO]

I wouldn't worry about anything at this point. The plant looks like it's ready to come down soon so I would just finish off with MC until harvest. Trying to correct anything at this stage would be pointless imo.

Hmmm... it just finish off week six from flip and it’s supposed to run for 8-9 weeks.
I figured there was at least 3-4 weeks.
Ive already flushed earlier this week. I’m going to stick with 4.5BE unless I see otherwise.

 

[MrSauga]

I figured there was at least 3-4 weeks.

It could very well be that long still. Trying different things this late though is pointless. The plant is producing great flowers and making any big changes now isn't going to improve bud production.

 

[AdaminCO]

It could very well be that long still. Trying different things this late though is pointless. The plant is producing great flowers and making any big changes now isn't going to improve bud production.

I hear ya. I wasn’t trying anything different... just overfeed on all three.
Ive been playing with all 4 products this whole grow.

 

[AdaminCO]

Few from tonight. Hit them with 4.5g/gal and 10ml/gal Suma today.

 

[AdaminCO]

I’m baffled... why are there minimal trics forming on this plant? The others are frosty ass hell. Week 7 from flip....? This was the one with nitro tox. Apologies for the blurples

 

[AdaminCO]

Compared to...

 

[InTheShed]

I’m baffled... why are there minimal trics forming on this plant? The others are frosty ass hell. Week 7 from flip....? This was the one with nitro tox.

First off, they're two different strains! Another thing that comes to mind is that excess nitrogen can inhibit flower development as the plant keeps pushing out leaves to make use of it. Here is @MrSauga's description I'm paraphrasing (sorry, can't "quote" a locked thread):

"An optimum level of nitrogen throughout the plants growing phases will result in vegetative vigor, bright green leaves due to chlorophyll production, increase the number of leaves and size of the stems. Other advantages to an optimum level of nitrogen include an increased resistance against insects and fungi.

On the other side of the pond, too much nitrogen reduces yield and flower quality and causes weak stems, excessive foliage growth, delayed ripening of your fruit and creates a less sweeter end product. Your plant will show little resistance to pests as well.

More importantly though is too much nitrogen during the flowering stage will cause your plant to produce much smaller buds."

 

[AdaminCO]

First off, they're two different strains! Another thing that comes to mind is that excess nitrogen can inhibit flower development as the plant keeps pushing out leaves to make use of it. Here is @MrSauga's description I'm paraphrasing (sorry, can't "quote" a locked thread):

"An optimum level of nitrogen throughout the plants growing phases will result in vegetative vigor, bright green leaves due to chlorophyll production, increase the number of leaves and size of the stems. Other advantages to an optimum level of nitrogen include an increased resistance against insects and fungi.

On the other side of the pond, too much nitrogen reduces yield and flower quality and causes weak stems, excessive foliage growth, delayed ripening of your fruit and creates a less sweeter end product. Your plant will show little resistance to pests as well.

More importantly though is too much nitrogen during the flowering stage will cause your plant to produce much smaller buds."

That’s where my head was... did the nitro tox F up flower progression.

A week after flush and backed down to 4.5g/gal and no change.

I almost want to pull it and add it to my salve pile.

 

[InTheShed]

Nah, let it finish. Might be worth edibles or something. If not, then add it to the salve pile.

 

[AdaminCO]

I had the plants wrong. It’s the Tajikistan Hash Plant that’s not working out

Black Domina is frosty with about a 14” bud. I just did some rearranging. I have three levels of lighting.

I’ll get some good natural lights pics in an hour or so.

 

[AdaminCO]

So the two things I need advice on...

The group...

Darkstar Kush.. not swelling up.

Glue Cookies...

Black Domina