Greenhorned First Indoor Attempt - LED Xnutes Soil - 3 Seeds

[Greenhorned]

OK update time.

Its my day off and i was bored. So i tied the BBW down and trimmed her up a bit. Not a bad job if i do say so myself for my first crack @ LST just read all info and went for it... It looks to have about a shit load of tops now. Don't know how autos work but i will veg till i see actual flower growth on tops then i will go to 12/12. 'Till then keep her 24/7 light. I'll take pics next Monday unless a problem arises.

'till then AIM HIGH!!!

 

[Mark Green]

Gotta love working on your day off! I get to do this all the time. LST can be very useful! Can't wait for the pics.

 

[Greenhorned]

OK Update time

I am about 98% sure what im growing now. since both were flowering on main cola tops automatically and are short. Its kinda obvious.

This new strain is one of the new wave of Super Autos which Flash Seeds introduced to the market as a world novelty. Indica/sativa type with relaxing and brain energetic effect. It has a sweet menthol taste.


Type: Autoflowering
Height: 1.5-2.5m outdoor
Time to harvest: 90-95 days from seed
Yield: 100-200gr per plant. outdoor

This long awaited third installment, in the Joint Doctor's work, is a potent, extremely resinous and tasty auto-flowering plant. An inbred cross of Soma's New York City Diesel and Lowryder #2, this strain normally produces one main cola with less branching than Lowryder or Lowryder #2. Unlike most other Lowryder hybrids created by amateurs, in the guise of new seed companies, this strain has been worked on by the Joint Doctor and mastered over the course of some years to ensure the perfect hybrid that maintains the excellent taste and effect of NYC Diesel whilst taking the auto-flowering genetics. Typical of the Joint Doctor's strains, Diesel Ryder marijuana seeds flower automatically at 3-4 weeks and finishes in 8-9 from seed. A small proportion of this strain will grow significantly taller than other individuals. This is a good choice for closets and small indoor set-ups but please note plants do give off a powerful odour during flowering.

pics Monday...

 

[Greenhorned]

OK Update time...

So the AP ( Annapurna ) has significantly stretched during the last week and is flowering nicely. The DL ( Diesel Lowryder ) Since being tied down has regressed in the flowering, but has been healthy and the old top has turned up again.

I have only trimmed a total of 6 leaves to let light hit inside nodes from the AP. The DL on the other hand has had about 25 leaves trimmed this week alone! Plus they grow all strange like 8 sets of leaves and lopsided and just strange looking.

I'll post pics later tonight.

 

[Greenhorned]

OK Pic Time!

This first set are of the AP in her new 3 gal. smart pot. She is as tall as a wine bottle now. Don't mind the nute burn on her oldest shade leaves. I am following a nute schedule without adjusting. The Kid at the Hydroshop was all like "naw man you are supposed to follow these just like they say, Its why they are popular". So far just a bit of nute burn, so i flushed a bit last watering and the burn quit. The DL has had no burn whatsoever though.

Now is the DL that I tied down. She was budding just as much as her BFF but she quit when I tied her down so she could adjust I guess.

OK thats it for this week. same time next week.

 

[Mark Green]

Looking good! I really dig the up the skirt pics!
Is the wine any good?

 

[Greenhorned]

Looking good! I really dig the up the skirt pics!
Is the wine any good?

Thanks. The wine is my wife's favorite, $15 a bottle ... Its only partially fermented, so its nice and sweet and bubbly. It reminds me of wine mixed with sprite. I tell my wife I'll buy her 2 buck chuck she could mix with sprite to give her a hard time, but I secretly also like it.

I'm more of a hoppy IPA kinda guy though.

 

[Greenhorned]

OK so i was just reading through journals and came across this information in someones post.

I am glad I did because i put my autos on 12/12 about a week ago.

will be switching back to 20/4, and if they don't react much 24/7 on lighting and throwing my other auto in till my sheds completed.

Hell I may as well start veging some more plants for my new shed taxes are buying me.
It will be the Man Cave Grow Shed.

For the link challenged...

If your growing autos for the first time read this

The original auto-flowering strain was created by The Joint Doctor and Highbred seeds.This is the revolutionary Lowryer.It was created by back breeding Northern Lights and William's Wonder with a Mexican Ruderalis.The amazing thing about this new strain was that the only Ruderalis trait left was the auto-flowering gene.This means that flowering is triggered by age rather then light/dark schedule.

The lifetime of the plants is short, lasting only 9 - 11 weeks.Within 2 weeks males will show themselves with the female showing around a week after that.From there the females go into a quick and violent flowering stage.They only reach an average highth of 12" with average harvests of 25 grams give or take depending on growing conditions.Giving it maximum stealth outside with up to three harvests a year.The size of the containers used will dramasticly effect size.Most growers use 1 - 2 gallon containers and can get well over an ounce out of each plant.

Due to the quick lifespan cloning becomes impracticable and is only grown from seeds.Since a separate light schedule isn't needed a grower can vegetate and flower in the same area.This creates new possibilities for small or macro operations.A small grow area can sustain a continuous S.O.G. giving a fresh harvest every few weeks.Most auto growers keep their lights at 18/6 or 20/4.A 12/12 schedule will dramatically hurt the final yield.

After the benefits of auto's was realized breeders began playing with them trying to make them bigger,stronger,and more potent.After Lowryder came Lowryder 2, also by the Joint doctor and using Santa Maria genetics.From these two strains a vast array of strains have been created in the last few years.With Low Life seeds, Mdanzig, and Dutchbreed joining to the new auto movement.Some of these new strains are said to have up to 23% Thc!
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Here are some of the strains available on the market -

Joint Doctor Highbred seeds- Lowryder , Lowrider 2 , Dieselryder , Snowryder(?)

Low Life Seeds- Automatic AK-47 , Automatic Blueberry, Automatic Lemon Skunk, Automatic White Russian, Automatic Hindu Kush

Mdanzig seeds- Masterlow, Power Stout, Blue Streak

Dutchbreed- Lowberry, Blue Barrel, Little Red Ryderhood, Lowryder Mint, Low Master, Mini Thunderfuck, Short Term Amnesia

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Here is the Joint Doctors grow guide for the original Lowryder-


OFFICIAL LOWRYDER GROW GUIDE (10/04) - written by the Joint doctor

Preferred growing methods

Indoors, Lowryder performs very well in soil mix (pots or beds) or in soil-less systems, where it can be cultivated from seed to bud in two months – 18 hours of light per day is recommended all the way through. Switching light cycles down to 12 hours may diminish yields and shorten the already-short life cycle slightly. Because Lowryder’s life cycle is so brief, cloning becomes impracticable, so only plants from seed are grown. By default, Lowryder is a great choice for sea-of-green.

Because flowering plants and seedlings can be maintained in the same room, Lowryder presents new possibilities for the small to medium home grower, including “staggering” your indoor harvest. A true continuous harvest system may be achieved by planting new plants periodically to replace the ones that have been harvested. This ensures that a grow
room is always full and always producing fresh bud, and one never has too much work at once. Click here to learn more about the Joint Doctor’s “1-2-3” continuous harvest method.

For best results, place jiffy pellet or plant directly into 1-2 gal.pots. Alternatively, start in 4-inch peat pots, then place
rootbound females into a plant bed after sexing (at approx. 17-20 days) – this may result in smaller plants than the first method. Grown under a 12 to 24 hour/daylight cycle from start to finish. I recommend 18 hours per day; this can be decreased to 16 after the first month with no loss of yield.


Outdoors: sow directly into soil after soaking, in 2 gal. pots or plant beds. New stands of Lowryder can be planted up until late summer, to ensure a continuous harvest outdoors. Avoid transplanting if you can, but do so if plants become rootbound. Rogue (remove) males at three weeks.


Growth Factors

Lowryder is extremely versatile in that it can be cultivated in virtually any climate or grow environment. In fact, it has pushed the envelope of growing, enabling early harvests in unlikely places like Finland, the North West Territories, and other northern, short-season, or high altitude areas. It is also well-adapted to backyard gardens, windowsills and patios where plants can be easily concealed because of their tiny size.

Nothing will mature earlier or faster than Lowryder! When other varieties have barely begun flowering, Lowryder outdoor growers are kicking up their feet and already enjoying their fresh harvests.


Characteristics

Lowryder virtually does away with the vegetative growth stage: it passes almost immediately from the seedling stage to the flowering period. To our knowledge, Lowryder has the shortest known life cycle and height in the cannabis species.
Male plants may be identified as such after approx. 17-20 days, while females show themselves a couple days later. Plants will even flower under a continuous light regime.

Lowryder females usually grow no taller than 16-20 inches. 12-16 inches is typical. Light intensity, pot size, and proper pH all play an important role in determining the size of plants at maturity – the better the conditions, the bigger the yield. Plants produce one main cola, although when they receive adequate light, lower nodes branch out profusely.

Yield and height are dependent on obvious growth factors. For example, plants kept in small peat cups on a windowsill may yield as little as 1 g. and grow no taller than 6 inches, with no branching whatsoever; while a plant in a 4-gallon container under high-intensity lighting and good cultivation methods, can turn into a profusely branched, two-foot wide 45-gram bud monster.


Fertilizer: During the first two weeks of growth, Lowryder should be weekly light feedings of a “grow” type nutrient solution, with micronutrients. When plants pass into full flower, they should be started on a “bloom” regime for weeks 4 through 6. Mycorise-type biological amendments (root stimulators) seem to increase growth significantly.

Average flowering time
Indoors: 40-45 days (after a 15-20 day seedling stage)
Outdoors: ripens approx. 60 days after seed is sown.
Note: 100% of plants display the auto-flowering genotype.

AVERAGE HEIGHT
12 inches. Minimum: 5 inches, maximum 16 inches (very light-dependent, with slight phenotype variations).

YIELD
Depending on light and other factors, Lowryder yields up to 45 g – one report even claims 96 g for one exceptional plant under hydroponics. Extremely light-dependent in terms of yield. Without adequate conditions, plants may stay extremely small, almost comically so – but still produce a decent smoke.

Buds are compacted close-quartered, slightly irregular and variable, with high bud/leaf ratio. Thick pistils, with orange coloration, and medium-sized, individual calyxes. Tends to be top-heavy indoors. Typically, budding sites start very close to the ground.

High is uplifting, surprisingly strong. Well-rounded. Best suited for outdoor activities. Smoke is smooth with pleasant, earthy undertones. Smell is not overpowering. Unique flavor, with echoes of NL and William’s Wonder in the bouquet.

JD on nutes:

I get a lot of requests for more info on nutrient needs for Lowryder. This is a hard question to answer as it depends how much money you want to shell out for nutrient products.

I get Advanced Nutrient products (many say the best) at a discount and I have adapted their formula for my own use. Advanced Nutrients provides a complete program for an 8-week grow and has a guide for different growing mediums.

For the first two weeks, I use what they recommend for seedlings.

Then I use the Micro 2+ Light Feeding program for the rest of their life cycle. I usually skip week 3 and 5 to bring it down to a 6 week program which I begin as soon as LRs are sexed.

I know it sounds complicated. Obviously all this is not needed.

As a rule of thumb, treat Lowryders like seedlings for the first 2-3 weeks, then switch them onto a light bloom program. So, you feed them a seedling/transplanting formula the first 2 weeks, then switch to a bloom fertilizer with something like a 5-10-5 or 1-2-1 ratio of N-P-K.

Give them a feeding of bloom fertilizer every week on weeks 3,4,5,6. Just pH-balanced water on week 7. Flushing solution on week 8.

...or for organic freaks, just plant into organic soil mix with bat guano mixed in... and put away the calculator... .
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I'm sure I forgot some stuff because I'm smoking the subject.So if anyone wants to add anything or has any questions feel free to ask.Don't forget to check out some of the great auto flower grow journals from our members.You will be amazed by some of these grows.

Good luck peeps....Pics next Monday!!

 

[Greenhorned]

OK update time...

I went to get the bloom nutes by Xnutes from the local Hydro Shop. They were sold out. I guess everyone who goes to that shop only buys that brand. While they have like an entire wall full of different brands.

Oh well when I got home i ordered these...

Farmer's Pride Organic Grow/Bloom/Micro (quart trio)

Farmer's Pride Organic Bio-Juice 0.5-0.1-0.6 (quart)

Farmer's Pride Organic Dark Matter Humate Tea (quart)

Hope they aren't too complicated. They will be here Tuesday and my plants will appreciate the feeding I believe. Flushed 2 waters ago from burn and have been using plain distilled since.

Pics Monday, or maybe Tuesday when i get the B.P.N....

 

[Mark Green]

I think your gonna love the BPN!

 

[Greenhorned]

so with the BPN i got (see above) do I go 1/4 strength on these plants? Or do I follow the instructions with organics? I dont want to burn my few leaves off of the annapurna so far into flower.

 

[Greenhorned]

Help!!!

took her out in natural light for pics and noticed this!

what is she asking for?

the bottom is fine as you can see its only the top that is light green in between the viens.

HELP!!!

 

[Truth Seeker]

Help!!!

took her out in natural light for pics and noticed this!

what is she asking for?

the bottom is fine as you can see its only the top that is light green in between the viens.

HELP!!!

Whats good GH!!!

that looks like a classic case of flowering my good man!!! Nitrogen is lacking in the flowering stage!!! usually happens when in flower due to the fact that you give less N and more of the PK!!!

 

[Greenhorned]

OK Update time...

Just got my farmers pride nutes!!!!

went with 4ml each in a gallon of water for both plants
Farmer's Pride Organic Bloom/Micro (quart trio)

Farmer's Pride Organic Bio-Juice 0.5-0.1-0.6 (quart)

Farmer's Pride Organic Dark Matter Humate Tea (quart)
they each soaked up 3/4 gl of water. They were thirsty. I have been lightly watering so i could add a gallon when my nutes arrived.

the Annapurna i used distilled water and the ph of water with nutes going in was 6.2 the run off water was 6.4 . Hopefully her leaves get better.

the Diesel Lowryder i had to use arrowhead natural spring water since i bought it and didnt notice it wasn't distilled but was with the distilled waters. water with nutes going in was 6.9 the run off was 6.8. this one is as healthy as a horse and has been treated exactly like her bff.

 

[Greenhorned]

Thanks Astonr420 and welcome to the journal!!

think so even only a couple weeks in? should i add some farmers pride grow nutes next water?

 

[Greenhorned]

OK pic time...
first AP

OMG LOL I just noticed I took this pic at EXACTLY the right time...LOL

Now the DL

now some premature bud porn.

See ya next week!!!

 

[Truth Seeker]

Thanks Astonr420 and welcome to the journal!!

think so even only a couple weeks in? should i add some farmers pride grow nutes next water?

Yes sir!!! you are going to want to add the amounts shown on your week of flowering!!!

if you didn't get a schedule in the box... I have provided the link to Feed Charts - Blue Planet Nutrients this is on the BPN site!!!

 

[Greenhorned]

been busy building a fence in my back yard that my mastiffs cant walk over. all is well and am starting to see some sugar on the plants. The AP is like a stick with buds because all the big fan leaves have died off but seems healthy otherwise.The DL is getting A LOT of crystals and is finally stretching a bit since Ive untied her. I will post an update with pics tomorrow If I feel up to it.

 

[Greenhorned]

I have to say BPN is some rank smelly stuff. I had to move it outside because the smell was going through the closed containers, and making one end of my house smell like halitosis. But my plants are LOVING it and showing no burn.

 

[Truth Seeker]

I feel ya on that!!! I have all my nutes outside in the storage with all the soil and pots!!! I have to feed early in the day so that I can air out the room of the smell!!! I got the stuff the minute that it came out of the mixing bin!!!
The grow bottle got here ready to pop!!!