led,s lol i dont know,do you? i ave found that diffrant 420 sites differ a lot.when it comes to led.from a outsider reading in,it reads like this,first i thought led is a over the pond thing, every 420 site i go on that has most members from over the pond,(usa ,canada)they love there led,s over hps. i have seen 1-2 grows that look ok,but nothing to justifying i spend over £1000 to match the hps, then when you go on a uk420 site, it changes,most are hps growers and maybe 1-2 led growers.and i see a shit load of great gardens.(hps)and then again i see ,420 sites that have a led sponsor push there product,her in the uk,led,s are not big,most grow shops dont even stock them now, when i ask, they say it never took off, bit like 3d, they say.id love a good led grower start a grow diary on a uk420 site,there you wont get smoke blown up your ass ,but will get any bullshit called out ,very quick,lol.still today even scoring the net i cant find a hobby led grow ,grown as quick and produce,(one foot of growth a week,in veg). but if led,s were to make my grow any better,i would go out today and buy some, this is not the case,(5-10 years maybe)led.s have there place in my world, (under my wheel arches) lighting up my truck ,not my grow,tent. led.s work great ,even home made led,s this i have seen and witnessed,(fact) do they out preform hps grows ,no, (fact) not at moment, will they take over hps? who knows ,but for now hps rule,(fact) gt is a very good grower(like myself) and will give praise to anything that improves our grow ,but it takes a lifetime at the moment to give any praise to led,s ,over hps,