Hydro Newbie

[geomikajak]

Hello. Very outdoor educated but due to fire,flood and smoke decided to go indoors. Long story short and alot of money spent I'm concerned my plants are maniacs?420seed-Northern Thunderfuck. Planted 15.3.22. 16days later..

Now she has had a haircut and tied down yesterday.

According to every gadget possible, appart from a slight over watering problem for a few days..everything has been perfect...i think???
Using coco/coco coir/coco clay mix and devils harvest nutrients. PH 5.8
Soil moisture adv 35%
Salts perfect 0.20-0.24 or 1200/1300 Humid constant 55%-60% atm.(I learnt this all from 420mag! Thanks Legends!) So my question is after 40 years bush bashing!!!! What is this?? Should I be concerned. 11 fans.

Freak?? Or welcome to hydroponics? I literally freaked and thought I'd just chopped the top off?

It's built like a

But still only a baby? Or does the magic start soon? Regards 420ers!

 

[LKABudMan]

Welcome to the forum @geomikajak

 

[Bill284]

Hello. Very outdoor educated but due to fire,flood and smoke decided to go indoors. Long story short and alot of money spent I'm concerned my plants are maniacs?420seed-Northern Thunderfuck. Planted 15.3.22. 16days later..

Now she has had a haircut and tied down yesterday.

According to every gadget possible, appart from a slight over watering problem for a few days..everything has been perfect...i think???
Using coco/coco coir/coco clay mix and devils harvest nutrients. PH 5.8
Soil moisture adv 35%
Salts perfect 0.20-0.24 or 1200/1300 Humid constant 55%-60% atm.(I learnt this all from 420mag! Thanks Legends!) So my question is after 40 years bush bashing!!!! What is this?? Should I be concerned. 11 fans.

Freak?? Or welcome to hydroponics? I literally freaked and thought I'd just chopped the top off?

It's built like a

But still only a baby? Or does the magic start soon? Regards 420ers!

Good morning @geomikajak welcome to 420magazine.
Cute girl my friend.
She looks like a healthy happy bushy indica.
11 blade leaves though uncommon are not anything to worry about.
Just a genetic mixup when forming.
Just make sure you feed her every day in coco.
Full nutrients every time.
Maby twice a day in flower.
If you start a journal tag me I love coco.
Here are a couple threads to help you.

Grow Journals

Index of real-time growers showcasing indoor and outdoor grow journals in soil, coco, hydroponics - compare LED grow lights, nutrients and methods of growing cannabis

www.420magazine.com

Introduce Yourself

Your opportunity to tell the 420 community a little about yourself and your interest in cannabis with a brief introduction

www.420magazine.com

Keep up the good work.

Stay safe
Bill

 

[bluter]

with the added clay pebble you'll have to feed multiple times / day. it won't hold any moisture.

 

[geomikajak]

Good morning @geomikajak welcome to 420magazine.
Cute girl my friend.
She looks like a healthy happy bushy indica.
11 blade leaves though uncommon are not anything to worry about.
Just a genetic mixup when forming.
Just make sure you feed her every day in coco.
Full nutrients every time.
Maby twice a day in flower.
If you start a journal tag me I love coco.
Here are a couple threads to help you.

Grow Journals

Index of real-time growers showcasing indoor and outdoor grow journals in soil, coco, hydroponics - compare LED grow lights, nutrients and methods of growing cannabis

www.420magazine.com

Introduce Yourself

Your opportunity to tell the 420 community a little about yourself and your interest in cannabis with a brief introduction

www.420magazine.com

Keep up the good work.

Stay safe
Bill

Thanks Bill. Interesting. Using IBEBOT soil metre and smartphone app.. 20%-40% moisture all day. Only watering every 48hrs atm to average a 30% soil moisture.

with the added clay pebble you'll have to feed multiple times / day. it won't hold any moisture.

Using coco blend bluter. Watering every 48hrs maximum and holding 30-35% water volume.

 

[Bill284]

Thanks Bill. Interesting. Using IBEBOT soil metre and smartphone app.. 20%-40% moisture all day. Only watering every 48hrs atm to average a 30% soil moisture.

Using coco blend bluter. Watering every 48hrs maximum and holding 30-35% water volume.

You might be able to skimp by.
We are just pointing out a tried and true method of using your medium.
Feeding your plants constantly keeping your coco wet at all times is the point.
Feed, feed, feed, and then feed more makes your garden explode.
Or you can just keep some of her damp just enough to keep her growing.
I'm not saying that's wrong my friend.
The best method is always the one that works for you.
And we support that and hope you get the best harvest ever.
Just trying to give you a heads up there is another way.
Here is day 1 of flower.
Gorilla Glue Clones.
6 week veg.
Coco / bokashi/ insect frass
Fed daily

Just giving you an example of possibilities.

Stay safe
Bill

 

[bluter]

Thanks Bill. Interesting. Using IBEBOT soil metre and smartphone app.. 20%-40% moisture all day. Only watering every 48hrs atm to average a 30% soil moisture.

thought i saw drippers and assumed you were running constant . if you've got them you built a great media to run that way.

Using coco blend bluter. Watering every 48hrs maximum and holding 30-35% water volume.

coco is most usually fed everyday in veg and up to multiple times per day in flower. the addition of the pebbles kinda dries it out further. the big grow bags help. volume can make up for a lot.

what i see of the plants looks good to me. a little heat stress or something but that's it. don't think the genetic toss is doing you any favours. had something similar going on with a tangie. i peeled it apart like a cheese string in veg and it worked out great. all the clones i took were normal as well.

 

[geomikajak]

I started 15/15 watering for first 2 weeks. 15mins off..15mins on. Changed that combo often like 15/60 then 15/120 but when I got salts correct moisture to high everytime and envo bags went pure fluro green overnight. Vinegar bicarb and a gentle wipe fixed that but yes..originally I wanted to run my flood and drain auto drip system constant but always had high soil moisture and green slime 45-60%. So now I just rely on my IBEBOT products and turn on auto pump-filter set at 21degrees celcius- and chiller when they are at 25-35% soil moisture. So now I'm really confused. I have a 24hr light setup with a 15/15 possible auto h2o setup... but my ladies only NEED a drink every 40hrs or so atm.

 

[geomikajak]

You might be able to skimp by.
We are just pointing out a tried and true method of using your medium.
Feeding your plants constantly keeping your coco wet at all times is the point.
Feed, feed, feed, and then feed more makes your garden explode.
Or you can just keep some of her damp just enough to keep her growing.
I'm not saying that's wrong my friend.
The best method is always the one that works for you.
And we support that and hope you get the best harvest ever.
Just trying to give you a heads up there is another way.
Here is day 1 of flower.
Gorilla Glue Clones.
6 week veg.
Coco / bokashi/ insect frass
Fed daily

Just giving you an example of possibilities.

Stay safe
Bill

Now you got me baffled sir. Setup was designed for 24hr light on a 15/15 water squedule. I don't know anything...everything from here- google and weed in a pot vids. After much learning and experimenting 24/7.. I can't water more than every 35-40hrs..or soil moisture is to wet according to many? 45-60%. Also humidity here in Aus sucks so I try and stay 55% constant atm in a Aus autumn.

Regards Bill..

 

[geomikajak]

I use this conversion for my maths.. a reading of .24mS/cm I believe converted is 1200TDSx500

My nutrients. It says 1200-1400 is correct so I think my mS/cm is perfect? Am I just stressing because they don't need water or am I wrong and shits about to hit the fan? I don't mind if it's the tops about to hit the fan..success!!!
But I don't want any poo.
Regards. Noobie.

 

[geomikajak]

P.s. temp fluctuates between 27degrees Celsius and 31degrees Celsius. Carbon filter running @ 30% atm outlet and 150mm turbo inlet exhaust running 15 mins on 15 off at 50% power.Gives me a adverage 55% humidity and 29degree tent. Thoughts???

 

[geomikajak]

You might be able to skimp by.
We are just pointing out a tried and true method of using your medium.
Feeding your plants constantly keeping your coco wet at all times is the point.
Feed, feed, feed, and then feed more makes your garden explode.
Or you can just keep some of her damp just enough to keep her growing.
I'm not saying that's wrong my friend.
The best method is always the one that works for you.
And we support that and hope you get the best harvest ever.
Just trying to give you a heads up there is another way.
Here is day 1 of flower.
Gorilla Glue Clones.
6 week veg.
Coco / bokashi/ insect frass
Fed daily

Just giving you an example of possibilities.

Stay safe
Bill

100% listening and learning bill. Whatever you blokes advise I will try. Like a kid with his first box of lego.. "what can I build".. or a pubescent 14yr old with his first Penthouse!..
im a sponge! and I thank you for all your advise and tips greatly!

 

[Bill284]

P.s. temp fluctuates between 27degrees Celsius and 31degrees Celsius. Carbon filter running @ 30% atm outlet and 150mm turbo inlet exhaust running 15 mins on 15 off at 50% power.Gives me a adverage 55% humidity and 29degree tent. Thoughts???

Hope I didn't come across as pushy my friend.
Just want to help.
Unfortunately those temps will be a problem eventually.
You will have to get control of that.
22-26 c , I like to run my flower tent.
You will produce a tighter denser bud if you can get your temps down.
I ran my 6" fan / carbon filter 100 % power 24/7 also.
Something you might need to work on.
But you have it up out of the way so that's good.

Stay safe
Bill

 

[geomikajak]

Regards Bill. Major weather conditions(rain) and humidity problems here big time atm. 4 week wait for a decent dehumidafier with built in carbon filter that should arrive anyday. Hoping this fixes my heat problem as yes 22-24 degrees would be great. Carbon filter only at 30% and inlet at 50% to compensate inlet/outlet pressures so tent isn't expanding or contracting. If i put carbon filter to 100% it sucks the tent in massively. Once smell is a issue and inlet Fan @100%, Dehumidifier and carbon fan I hope will get me to 22-24 degrees perminantly? I am waiting for this "magic wand" to arrive to improve this.

Thoughts? Regards mate.

 

[Bill284]

Regards Bill. Major weather conditions(rain) and humidity problems here big time atm. 4 week wait for a decent dehumidafier with built in carbon filter that should arrive anyday. Hoping this fixes my heat problem as yes 22-24 degrees would be great. Carbon filter only at 30% and inlet at 50% to compensate inlet/outlet pressures so tent isn't expanding or contracting. If i put carbon filter to 100% it sucks the tent in massively. Once smell is a issue and inlet Fan @100%, Dehumidifier and carbon fan I hope will get me to 22-24 degrees perminantly? I am waiting for this "magic wand" to arrive to improve this.

Thoughts? Regards mate.

Your rh is 55 ish?

Stay safe
Bill

 

[geomikajak]

Your rh is 55 ish?

Stay safe
Bill

Adjusts between 48%- 62% over the hour with inlet on 15min off 15min.
So yeah over the hour about a 54% adverage.

 

[geomikajak]

Adjusts between 48%- 62% over the hour with inlet on 15min off 15min.
So yeah over the hour about a 54% adverage.

Sounds weird I know.. after the inlet Fan has been off 15mins it gets to 62%. At end of vent cycle after Fan been on for 15mins it's at 48%. This while the carbon outlet is running 24hrs at about 30% with control switch

 

[Bill284]

Adjusts between 48%- 62% over the hour with inlet on 15min off 15min.
So yeah over the hour about a 54% adverage.

55% - 62% is perfect range.
Have you seen the vpd chart.
Veg I run .9 or so.
Flower 1.3 or so.
See the temp rh correlation.

Stay safe
Bill

 

[LKABudMan]

It sounds like your temperatures are a bit too high. Running your exhaust at 100% would help keep the temperature down, but it looks like your humidity gets too low when you run your exhaust. Is your lung room humidity too low to run your exhaust at 100% without your tent humidity dropping too low?
If so, I think you may want a humidifier in your lung room vs. a dehumidifier. If you could run your exhaust 100% of the time it would keep your temps down, and if the room humidity were in the correct range (50-60%) your tent humidity would stay in the correct range. Do you measure the temperature & humidity in your lung room?

 

[geomikajak]

55% - 62% is perfect range.
Have you seen the vpd chart.
Veg I run .9 or so.
Flower 1.3 or so.
See the temp rh correlation.

Stay safe
Bill

You married?..I don't swing like that but I'm starting to love you!
(/me screenshots,prints and laminates bills chart for grow wall.) Thanks..awesome!