Creme de la Creme Photos: Sept 2016
Subbed up. Seed projects looking good.
Thanks Pennywise! Yea I don't know if I will really be able to sample it, depends on how many seeds and how mature they are... but if there is a chance to, I definitely will Its an unreal smell, never have I smelled a banana terp in cannabis so strong. I'm really curious about the high too.That banana pheno sounds good, hoping you like effects.
Thanks Pennywise. Yea the only Apollo which isn't showing sex yet is the broad leaf one, which would be awesome if it was a male. I guess worse case scenereo I use the 2 males that are showing pollen sacks and end up with some fast flowering females in the offspring? lol... not sure if that works that way, but nice to dreamHope you get that 1 male Apollo, the Gibberellic acid will be interesting. That broadleaf Apollo could be a nice plant.
Well here are the photos now of the seed harvest, as well as a few photos of the dried Bangi Haze cola's.Bangi Haze F9 Breeding Open pollen project:
⦁ Seeds Germinated 7 out of 8 cracked, and were placed in soil.
⦁ Seeds germinated April 17th
⦁ Vegged until August 25th
⦁ First day of flowering Auguest 26th
⦁ Harvest date November 6 2019.
Seed Source: The Bangi haze F9 seeds I recieved from a well known breeder as they were part of his private seed collection. Hazeman did not breed these seeds and they originally came from Dragon Flame Genetics who produced the F9. Prior to Dragon Flame Genetics, but originated from Ace Seeds.
GENETICS: Congo x Nepalese. Stabilized hybrid.
Bangi Haze is one the fastest sativa hybrid from our collection. Its name comes from the Nepalese incense aroma that will seduce you immediately and its energetic high from the Congolese sativa. It is a compact sativa that produces dense flowers full of generous trichomes. Bangi Haze was bred and improved for indoor growing. Good adaptation to outdoor cold climates.
STRUCTURE: Compact and columnar sativa, easy to work with it.
BOUQUET: A seductive honey and liquor aroma.
POTENCY: Strong and energetic sativa effect that raises you and maintains you active.
FLOWERING: 9-10 weeks. End September/ Early October.
PRODUCTION / M2: Middle-high
GROW TYPE: Indoor/outdoor. All climates.
⦁ 7 of 8 seeds cracked and were placed in soil. within 10 days all 7 seedlings emerged from soil.
⦁ 6 of the 7 plants grew very similar in height, leaf formation, structure and all traits were very uniform, except for 1 phenotype (which turned out to be a male) which had broader leaves and a shorter squatted type structure.
⦁ All 7 plants grew exceptionally well, very little nutrient related or feeding issues, very little discoloration and overall very easy to grow plants.
⦁ Out of 7 plants, 4 were male and only 3 were female.
⦁ All 4 males were used in an open pollenation fashion to allow for variety in the progency/offspring F10s.
⦁ All females grew very similar in height structure, ease of growing and all other traits.
⦁ 3 of the 4 males looked almost identical, but 1 of the males had a shorter structure, different shaped leaves and broader leaf blades.
⦁ All females went 74 days from the flip, but probably could continue to flower for longer. Only pheno #2 really showed swollen calyxes and looked "done" at day 74.
⦁ All females were allowed to grow 2 main colas/main appical meristems.
⦁ All 3 females had very leafy buds, definitely NOT a trimmers dream and will require a lot of manicuring/trimming. Phenotype 2 had the least leaves on the buds but still a lot.
This phenotype has the most aiy buds and really looks like a true sativa dom in terms of bud structure. The terpene profile of this phenotype is very hard to describe and very weak. In terms of strenth of terpenes, I would rate this a 3 out of 10 where you really have to rub a bud and then smell your fingers quickly to get any fragarance at all. The terpene profile is extremely hard to describe but smells similar to sweet "roots" or like a carrot but with a sweet spicy exotic incense type smell. The bud girth on this phenotype was the thinnest/smallest and yeild seemed to be the smallest of the 3 females, but not by a lot. The plant height, structure and branching was similar to the other 2 phenotypes. This phenotype probably could have been flowererd for another week or 2 as it was the only pheno that was still pushing out white pistils at 74 days. Trichome develpment is very little on this pheno. Definitely not a choice or select pheno, but does represent more of a "landrace" type look in terms of needs to be worked more for better yield, bud structure, trichomes..etc. Still a very good plant to grow with ease.
After Harvest Report: Phenotype 1 has very airy buds and although the cola's stacked nicely, a lot of the "weight" was either larf to be trimmed off, or the seeds themselves. The strength of the terpenes after drying is very light, where while breaking up the buds I can not even smell the terps, unless I smell my fingers or the broken up biomass closely to my nose. I would say probably a 2 or 3 out of 10 in terms of strength of terpenes. The Terpene smell itself is quite interesting, and it has a 50/50 blend of pine and beef stew, yes beef stew. Its very odd because instead of blending together, there are 2 very distinct smells the pine, and the beef stew. Not a bad smell and very different from anything I have smelled before. Trichome production on this pheno is very little, and even after breaking up a lot of bud with my fingers, I hardly have any resin on my fingers. Overall this strain may be really nice if bred for its structure, bud size and stacking (improving another strains structure) but for the other traits such as terpenes, trichomes and overall yield the strain disappoints in these areas.
Phenotype # 2
This female produced the largest cola's/buds by a long margin and also had the strongest terpene profile out of all 3 female phenotypes. The terpene profile on this smells like sweet bananas with a sweet honey and incense type smell but mostly smells like sweet bananas and very appealing smelling. None of the 3 females produce vast amounts of trichomes, however the bud density, formation/structure and most trichomes seem to be on Phenotype #2. This would be the choice selected phenotype for an F10 and/or future breeding projects due to the amazing terpene smell, excellent bud formation and yield and ease of growing. In terms of strenght of terpenes, with 10 being the highest.. I would rate his pheno as a 6 out of 10, and the strongest of the 3 female bangi Hazes. The height of this pheno is about the same as the other 2 females. None really varied in height, branching, structure and all 3 females were allowed to have 2 main colas.
After Harvest Report: This phenotype had fairly dense buds, and was inbetween the airy pheno1 and the dense pheno4. In terms of girth, bud structure and height it was almost identical to phentype #4. The trichome formation was about equal to phenotype #4, however my fingers seemed to be slightly stickier after deseeding #2 than after #4 but I think all in all they were about equal in trichome production. The terpene profile of #2 was slightly different than that of #4, and the terpenes of #2 seemed to lean towards a bananna/citrus smell but actually seemed slightly less strong than phenotype #4. Pheno 4 seemed to have an edge when it came to terpene potency, however the exotic "bananna" smell to pheno #2 was really interesting and it had a complexity to it I cant describe. Overall in terms of terpene strength I would say that #2 was a 5-6 out of 10 in terms of strength. Since pheno 4 and pheno 2 were so similar, I think that pheno 2 would be a good selection choice for future breeding, however the overall bud density and slightly increased terpenes in pheno 4 may give a slight edge, the exotic banana terpenes in #2 even the playing field out. Both pheno 2 and 4 were equally awesome and either would be a great selection.
Phenotype 4 is the middle of the road phenotype and is a sort of blend of the other 2. The yield on this pheno was in the middle between pheno 2 and pheno1. The bud structure is much more dense than phenotype 1, but not nearly as dense or as large as phenotype 2. The terpene strength on this pheno is about the same strenth as pheno 2 and I would rate it a 6 out of 10. The terpene profile is vastly different from the other phenos. This phenotype has a very strong lemon/pine smell with a very exotic sweet mens collogne (brute 33) type smell to it. Very interesting smell that I can't say I have ever smelled before, and very exotic. This phenotype was very similar in size to the other 2 females. I would say that its very close to a select phenotype that anyone who used the F10 seeds of pheno #4 would be pleased with the results and I would say it comes in very close 2nd place as a choice pheno. The main difference between this pheno and pheno 2 is that the yield seems to be slightly less, but not by much at all, and the terpenes are different, but similar in strength.
After Harvest Report:
While breaking up the buds and removing the seeds after drying, phenotype #4 really showed some strong terpenes, very pleasant smelling terpenes, and the buds had quite a bid of density to them. The terpene strength I would rate around a 6 out of 10, and the terpene profile smells very much of a mix between a ruby red grapefruit and sweet navel orange. Very citrus but complex and very pleasant smell. The structure and stacking of the cola/buds was very nice and the yeild was fairly decent for having 2 main colas. I definitely think this phenotype would be a good selection for future breeding projects. The seeds from Pheno 4 were slightly more mature than the seeds from pheno 1 which shows me that its slightly faster finishing, which also showed with pheno 4 having less white pistils at harvest. The yield of seeds form pheno 4 was slightly higher than pheno 1 as well. Overall this would be a great choice for breeding.
Awesome work, Brother!
I've always been of the mindset that, "He who dies with the most seeds wins" and I can see you're far ahead of the rest of the pack!
I'm not sure it's been mentioned, so need to ask...What are you doing with all those seeds you're making? Are you selling them on IG, or working with some breeders, or just building up your own line to start a seed company?
I'm issuing a formal challenge for you to try to grow out 1% of the seeds I've seen you produce!
I'll definitely be there after harvest to help you smoke it all!
(Notice how I said I'd show up AFTER harvest! I'm not up for helping with a trim project of that magnitude! )
I have a feeling that my Bangi Haze F9 x Private Reserve OG will be an absolute monster for that reason. If you look up Private reserve OG on the phylos galaxy, it is one of the furthest out OG's with very little variation, in other words very stable. Therefore the progeny that I created should be a true F1 Hybrid and exhibit extreme hybrid vigor.... I'm really excited for that one specifically and also why I chose to keep Private Reserve in my GardenBangi Haze turned out well, try splitting the line and crossing the 2 back to one another to establish hybrid vigor again.