I'm a little disappointed

[420 Warrior]

Which is basically what I just said, so I agree.

"The Right vs Left paradigm is all by design to keep us fighting against each other instead of all of us together fighting against the puppet masters in the top 1% that are pulling all the strings."

Left or Right doesn't matter in the Canna war, we're neither red or blue, we're GREEN and green is something we can all agree on. Green is the subject we all need to stick together about. The Cannabis plant doesn't know political boundaries, all it knows is that it wants to grow and be free and so should we.

If you were to put every single Cannabis consumer in the US together all in one place, what percentage of the populous do you think that would be? It would be an interesting tally to say the least. My bet would be close to the 90% mark and with those kind of numbers all speaking out, world wide legalization would happen almost overnight I bet.

 

[Auggie]

Probably better off not discussing politics here. Another weed forum has a politics section dominated by a handful of people who just sit around agreeing with each other all day. If you deviate from their marxist groupthink they freak out. Waste of time. I made the mistake of offering my 2 cents one time and got my head bit off.

But ... you still need to speak.
You should only exercise the rights you want to keep.

I have been permanently evicted from 'that other site', but not before I brought a lot of issues to the full on light. Somebody heard me.
Preaching to the choir is no fun ... give me a true believer socialist - I will make him cry.
UncleBuck is hunting me as I write.
LoL.

 

[420 Warrior]

Sounds like that other site is a poser canna site to me. I found a few like that before landing here years ago and I haven't looked back...lol

 

[Auggie]

Sounds like that other site is a poser canna site to me. I found a few like that before landing here years ago and I haven't looked back...lol

It's not actually.
There is a lot of good people on the grow boards.
But, the politics room? Holey smoke, it's a train wreck ... and all the mods would have to do is allow 'freedom of speech' and it could be fun.
Oh well ... not my house.

 

[420 Warrior]

Yea, the ones I found before I came here were even squabbling in the grow rooms and no one could even agree on how to grow meds properly. I was waiting days on end for answers to grow questions if and when I ever got an answer.

When I came here I couldn't believe how attentive and supportive everyone was...It blew me away...420Magazine rocked my world then and still does to this day.

 

[johnnystackz]

I said this once and I will say it again
Grow till you can't grow no mo!

 

[Grandma Weedstein]

But ... you still need to speak.
You should only exercise the rights you want to keep.

I have been permanently evicted from 'that other site', but not before I brought a lot of issues to the full on light. Somebody heard me.
Preaching to the choir is no fun ... give me a true believer socialist - I will make him cry.
UncleBuck is hunting me as I write.
LoL.

Yea I clicked on the “members” tab on that other site and the individual you mentioned has more posts than anyone on the forum by far. Must be a pretty sad, lonely person — not only does he obviously lack any other social outlet, but he brings so much vitriol to the one he does.

 

[Auggie]

Yea I clicked on the “members” tab on that other site and the individual you mentioned has more posts than anyone on the forum by far. Must be a pretty sad, lonely person — not only does he obviously lack any other sociIal outlet, but he brings so much vitriol to the one he does.

I think he IS a mod.
And, I loved twisting his tail.
He's easy.

 

[Grandma Weedstein]

I think he IS a mod.
And, I loved twisting his tail.
He's easy.

I had never engaged in the politics section before but threw my 2 cents in one time regarding covid. Keep in mind, I outright said I can’t stand Trump and support Biden.

However, I also said it undermines the credibility of health experts when they say mass public gatherings are too dangerous, unless you’re protesting the police.

Not even saying folks shouldn’t be allowed to protest or anything like that, mind you. Just that it reeks of a double standard when people aren’t allowed to hold an outdoor county fair in a rural area but it’s fine to have folks chanting and screaming in the streets in a densely urban area.

I also mentioned the right wing was ridiculous with the anti-mask paranoia. Didn’t matter, tho — immediately was called a racist, fascist, trumptard, moron, etc.

Anyway, I agree with you about standing your ground and so on, but you’ve got to pick your battles. Trying to defend myself against a handful of lonely snowflakes just didn’t seem worth the effort.

What I did find problematic, tho, was that an admin was openly “liking” the leftist vitriol. The same admin also openly discussed another user’s IP address after he’d posted something that went against the groupthink.

Long story short, that definitely freaked me out and lent credence to the theory that the biggest troll on the forum enjoys special protection or as you suggest, is an admin.

 

[Stormblessed]

I’m not taking sides because both have their flaws, Some more than others lolbut when it comes to protests it can probably get kinda tricky to tell people that r not allowed, with constitutional rights and stuff like that

 

[Grandma Weedstein]

I’m not taking sides because both have their flaws, Some more than others lolbut when it comes to protests it can probably get kinda tricky to tell people that r not allowed, with constitutional rights and stuff like that

Oh I for sure am not saying that the protests should be shut down or anything. I’m a free speech absolutist. I just think it has to be recognized that they’re going to pose an elevated risk of infection, just like a county fair or what have you.

What bothered me wasn’t the protests themselves as much as the attitude that they’re magically not as problematic from the point of view of transmission — simply because of the politics involved.

In other words, if we’re going to protest, let’s at least be intellectually honest about the covid risks.

Anyway, I realize I’ve veered dangerously away from any cannabis-related issue, so I’ll shut up now!

 

[Auggie]

I’m not taking sides because both have their flaws, Some more than others lolbut when it comes to protests it can probably get kinda tricky to tell people that r not allowed, with constitutional rights and stuff like that

Damn pesky Constitution ... and, stuff like that

 

[BeanTownFan420]

There are alot of double standards in life.Like Bob Marley for example hated politics but was considered extremely political in his views and beliefs. RASTAFARI!

 

[BeanTownFan420]

My biggest beef has always been people who say they have the right to believe what they want to believe but i cannot smoke weed and believe in that because there beliefs do not condone that.

 

[BeanTownFan420]

This site is for Cultivation NO politics !!!! Guess if a person doesn't like things here in the US or any oth

This fourm is for cultivation NOT POLITICS - all I have to say is that if one doesn't like it here in the US or some other country - should move and find a better country to live in (If there is one) We all should feel blessed !!!!!

In a free democracy the whole point of having a free democracy is so you can disagree and not have some one tell you that you should leave if you do not like it.That is a big double standard.You can have your opinion but do not tell others what you think they should do if they are free.That is there choice not yours.

 

[BeanTownFan420]

You are right !!! politics is a very big part of legalization = I With all the other stuff going on in the world today (BlackLivesMatter) I was saying that there is no room for BLM here - We are all the same when it comes to legalization of m- ALL the stuff happening now clouds one way of thinking -- Peace Then what about "wear a mask" which I believe we need to do

Black lives matter!

 

[Auggie]

There are alot of double standards in life.Like Bob Marley for example hated politics but was considered extremely political in his views and beliefs. RASTAFARI!

Jesus was the same way.
Long-haired, Birkenstock wearing hippy.

 

[Emilya Green]

I am all for activism and I know personally that local activism is what creates change. We stayed active for years here in Missouri, and finally it paid off. I credit local activism for releasing Jeff Mizanskey from his lifetime sentence for pot, and I credit this same activism and the message that got out during the push to get Jeff released, for starting the groundswell that led to the approval of medical cannabis in our state. Activism works... on the local level.

On the national level, things are much different. The USDHHS owns the one and only patent that the government owns, legally or not. This patent specifically restricts any further tests, studies or research into the medical benefits of cannabis until the patent runs out in 2023.

This patent was put into place in a political move to save big Pharma. They were given 10 years to figure out how to get involved in the emerging cannabis industry, and I will assure you that they will be ready. No amount of activism on the local level is going to change what has been put into place in the top levels of government regarding this issue, and because of the importance (to the politicians) of protecting big Pharma, even the President (no matter who he or she happened to be) was and is powerless to change this situation.

In 2023 all of this changes. Expect an amazing amount of cannabis activity that year. For now... we have what we have, and we are stuck in a holding pattern.

Keep active anyway! This activism, even though not effective right now, has a lasting effect and when the dam breaks on this thing... the results of all of our work will pay off. Be patient... 2023 is not very far away. Prepare yourself now to be where you want to be in this new emerging market, that will sweep the entire nation.... it is just a matter of time.

 

[Auggie]

Prepare yourself now to be where you want to be in this new emerging market, that will sweep the entire nation.... it is just a matter of time.

Interesting sentence.
Please expand ...

Do you mean business wise?
If it goes anything like California you'll need to be prepared to participate in this new green rush IF you have cash savings of at least $1 mil, and a balance sheet showing other assets of at least that amount again.

I will start saving right away.

 

[Emilya Green]

Interesting sentence.
Please expand ...

Do you mean business wise?
If it goes anything like California you'll need to be prepared to participate in this new green rush IF you have cash savings of at least $1 mil, and a balance sheet showing other assets of at least that amount again.

I will start saving right away.

There are as many business opportunities about to open up, or already open, as there are entrepreneurs willing to try marketing their ideas. It doesn't always take a lot of initial investment to get a good idea going. I know a farmer who is growing hemp and who is doing a good hempcrete business; and that stuff is getting more popular all the time. There is a group trying to ramp up right now making hemp based clothing in my circles, and I like their marketing ideas. Another friend is getting into CBD and tinctures, and adding those lines to an already successful business. The trick is figuring out that start up businesses don't thrive in certain over regulated areas of this country, CA and NY being two big examples that I can think of right off the bat. Compare those areas with somewhere like Michigan, where small businesses are thriving in and around this industry.